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[Volus Warlord]

He should be a lovable badass that pisses in vases, eats other people's cereal, and stuffs his undies in preparation for combat.

[Volus Warlord]

On a more serious note, I am expecting something along the lines of "I am not in control of my deeds"-esque antagonist that Bioware seems to love so much.

[AresKeith]

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Templar in the "Agents of Chaos", as long as that person has something to do with the Red Templars

[General TSAR]

MasterScribe wrote...

The Chantry needs muscle. Why not hire some mercenaries, even if they are non-believing elves and dwarves?

I think DA has enough generic mercenaries/bandits/sellswords/highwaymen/cookie thieves/ect, we need factional enemies with distinguishing attributes.

Modifié par General TSAR, 23 septembre 2013 - 12:29 .

[Gwydden]

Curious. I have a little project of making a fanfic staring the leader of the Red Templars. I had a concept for his look in a boss fight that came pretty close to the OP's image. I hope you won't mind if I borrow a few details?

[Gwydden]

Volus Warlord wrote...

On a more serious note, I am expecting something along the lines of "I am not in control of my deeds"-esque antagonist that Bioware seems to love so much.

I really hope not. I was thinking something along the lines of iron solid discipline making the Red Templar leader the most sane of the those who counsume red lyrium, even if he's the one who gets more fed up. After all, it took Meredith three years and a very traumatic event to lose her head. Extremist are not always crazy.

[Lokiwithrope]

Gwydden wrote...

Curious. I have a little project of making a fanfic staring the leader of the Red Templars. I had a concept for his look in a boss fight that came pretty close to the OP's image. I hope you won't mind if I borrow a few details?

Not my image. It's Blizzard's.

[Gwydden]

Lokiwithrope wrote...

Gwydden wrote...

Curious. I have a little project of making a fanfic staring the leader of the Red Templars. I had a concept for his look in a boss fight that came pretty close to the OP's image. I hope you won't mind if I borrow a few details?

Not my image. It's Blizzard's.

Still, you found it, and asking is both polite and harmless. Plus, I'm a terrible painter. I was thinking more along the lines of using it to help me with the character's description.

[JakeOfDiamonds]

 Honestly, I think it'll go a little something like this (a few DA:Asunder Spoilers here and there);

-Lord Seeker Lambert nullified the Nevarran Accord, removing the Templar and Seekers from control of the Chantry (barring those who stayed, willinginly).

-The Chantry controls majors parts of Lyrium trade, which Templars have been displayed developing intense addictions to. The rogue Templars are still able to get their hands on some, but not nearly enough to supply themselves away from the Chantry's support.

-The rogue Templars turn to another source they had heard about, a new type of lyrium said to give great amounst of power; Red Lyrium.

-As we saw in Dragon Age II, Red Lyrium makes you go insane, for lack of a better term. And thus, we've got a faction of rogue templars, driven mad by their new, more powerful and more potent type of lyrium. Which is bad.

-Lambert, who is missing (those of you who read Dragon Age: Asunder know this) and is presumed dead. But the guy was head of the Seekers for a reason. He's about as resourceful as they come. Something tells me he's escaped his cliffhanger fate, and is hidden away somewhere, pulling the Red Templar Strings, plotting the downfall of all mages, and all who oppose such an agenda. Though after Red Lyrium's effects, there may no longer even be an agenda, and just a bunch of red lyrium-addled rogue templars, haha.

[MisterJB]

If I get to choose, I wish it to be Evangeline.

Otherwise, I hope any templar antagonist is an atheist.
Yes, you read that right. I've always felt that making the Chantry a religious organization was a cheap way of making them harder to sympathize with because nowadays "Organized Religion=Evil".
So, if there must be a templar antagonist, I want him/her to use logic and fear to justify his/her actions because there simply is no way to relate to someone who does things because god ordered it.

Modifié par MisterJB, 23 septembre 2013 - 12:48 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

The Red Templars are pretty much inevitable antagonists. But the other rogue Templars shouldn't be. I'm not saying it should be possible to reason with all of them, but at the very least the player should be able to see where they're coming from and join them. (Which I don't believe to be reasonable, but I think it should be allowed. For much the same reasons as siding with the inevitable Adrian-esque mages should be allowed, despite the fact that from all I've read she was a flat-out psycho.)

[Gwydden]

JakeOfDiamonds wrote...
-Lambert, who is missing (those of you who read Dragon Age: Asunder know this) and is presumed dead. But the guy was head of the Seekers for a reason. He's about as resourceful as they come. Something tells me he's escaped his cliffhanger fate, and is hidden away somewhere, pulling the Red Templar Strings, plotting the downfall of all mages, and all who oppose such an agenda. Though after Red Lyrium's effects, there may no longer even be an agenda, and just a bunch of red lyrium-addled rogue templars, haha.

I'd really prefer it if they didn't pull a Warcraft with Lambert. Making character who by all logic should be dead miraculously survive almost always comes by as... lame.

[Gwydden]

MisterJB wrote...

If I get to choose, I wish it to be Evangeline.

Otherwise, I hope any templar antagonist is an atheist.
Yes, you read that right. I've always felt that making the Chantry a religious organization was a cheap way of making them harder to sympathize with because nowadays "Organized Religion=Evil".
So, if there must be a templar antagonist, I want him/her to use logic and fear to justify his/her actions because there simply is no way to relate to someone who does things because god ordered it.

The fact that templars are willing to separate themselves from the Chantry and the Divine's authority speaks volumes as to where their faith stands their list of priorities compared to their professional duty.

[Lord Raijin]

Angrywolves wrote...

Cullen is a wuss.
Could never be a major enemy.
You assume it'll be the leader of the red templars and they'll have some silly weapon like Meredith had.

You would be surprise what alcohol does to someone who is a coward. We call it liquid courage. I would think that the red lyrium that Meredith was on is an equalivation to boozing it up. Mental instablitity would alter any fear that someone might of had in the past.

[JakeOfDiamonds]

Gwydden wrote...I'd really prefer it if they didn't pull a Warcraft with Lambert. Making character who by all logic should be dead miraculously survive almost always comes by as... lame.

I'm inclined to agree with you. But Lambert was an absolute force. Like, the guy had everything going on. Extremely dislikeable, but you couldn't help but respect him. He was paranoid, extremely talented with his sword, agile even in his armor, and a proven mastermind.

What's worse, is that a part of you is sympathetic to his side of things. But like all extremists, he took his beliefs too far, and that's how we wind up where we are, the Circle broken, the Templars and Seekers on their own, the Chantry losing a huge fraction of its military force. To kill off one of the most largely responsible individuals off-screen by someone he had already proven he could best? Would be even more disappointing, I think.

[General TSAR]

MasterScribe wrote...
How about a mercenary faction? 

A group of magic-hating elven warriors?

A mercenary doesn't have to be "generic."

Fine, but they better have their own unique combat dialogue and skins.

Modifié par General TSAR, 23 septembre 2013 - 01:38 .

[Xilizhra]

What's worse, is that a part of you is sympathetic to his side of things.

Maybe a part of you.

To kill off one of the most largely responsible individuals off-screen by someone he had already proven he could best? Would be even more disappointing, I think.

Entirely deserved, and I'd like to see Cole appear again in Lambert's body.

[wcholcombe]

The main antagonist won't be a templar. A templar wouldn't be able to cause the tears in the viel.

[Gwydden]

wcholcombe wrote...

The main antagonist won't be a templar. A templar wouldn't be able to cause the tears in the viel.

I think the OP was talking about a secondary antagonist, not the main one.

[Medhia Nox]

One might assume that some Inquisitors would even be allied to this "Antagonist" Templar leader.

Which leaves the Antagonist Mage Leader to deal with... and I cannot WAIT to put that tool in his/her place.

[Gwydden]

Medhia Nox wrote...

One might assume that some Inquisitors would even be allied to this "Antagonist" Templar leader.

Which leaves the Antagonist Mage Leader to deal with... and I cannot WAIT to put that tool in his/her place.

When has a Bioware game delivered a single mage antagonist? But if you can find them in every corner!

Modifié par Gwydden, 23 septembre 2013 - 01:55 .

[Xilizhra]

Medhia Nox wrote...

One might assume that some Inquisitors would even be allied to this "Antagonist" Templar leader.

Which leaves the Antagonist Mage Leader to deal with... and I cannot WAIT to put that tool in his/her place.

It'll probably be a magister. Enjoy.

[Medhia Nox]

@Xilizhra: That would be such a cop-out.

Not that I don't want to kill magisters mercilessly.... but I'd like for there to be a DA game in Tevinter where I can play a Magister who destroys other magisters, has no slaves and doesn't practice blood magic.

[Xilizhra]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Xilizhra: That would be such a cop-out.

Not that I don't want to kill magisters mercilessly.... but I'd like for there to be a DA game in Tevinter where I can play a Magister who destroys other magisters, has no slaves and doesn't practice blood magic.

Maybe we could have a sort of ranking saarebas? Would you prefer that?