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Is there anyone who actually bought Mass Effect 3 who didn't play the first two?


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Linkenski

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serialkicker wrote...

I cringed everytime some of bioware staff said new players won't miss out a thing if they never played Mass effect series and just want to start with ME3. Like hell.

And the fact that they half-assed some changes to dialogue, in the end wasting time to cater to the newcomers made me feel like all the hardcore fans got an inferior game. It's obvious they decided harbinger should be written out basically because newcomers would feel it was too convoluted or something.

That's probably also why the Collector base choice and the Rachni queen choice got so half-assed.

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Maybe the better thing to do in the longrun is stick with a familiar setting that both new and old players can reference, and just tell smaller stories within that game universe. Stories that are fun and have some impact, but aren't so crucial that they change the galaxy or anything like that.

By familiar setting, I just mean like most fantasy or sci-fi settings. D&D, Star Wars, DC Universe, whatever. None of those change too drastically (D&D changes, but they manage that by creating entirely new realms). Mass Effect (so far) has made incredibly big changes just within the span of 3 games alone. AND they want to cater to new players? Those are hard goals to meet at the same time.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 27 septembre 2013 - 11:35 .


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I never quite understood playing number titled games out of order. I entered the ME universe when all three games were released but never thought to start at 3... I wouldn't watch Matrix Revolutions first the go back to the previous two...

I understand Bioware wanting to cater to new demographics, because, you know, they're a business and all, needing money... But the stats they posted about new game saves baffles me. I read books, watch movies, and play games in sequential order to get the full experience.

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BassStyles wrote...

I never quite understood playing number titled games out of order. I entered the ME universe when all three games were released but never thought to start at 3... I wouldn't watch Matrix Revolutions first the go back to the previous two...

I understand Bioware wanting to cater to new demographics, because, you know, they're a business and all, needing money... But the stats they posted about new game saves baffles me. I read books, watch movies, and play games in sequential order to get the full experience.


Any number of reasons really. ME3 had MP, so there will be people who bought it for that who never purchased the previous titles because they didn't offer that type of gameplay. WiiU only got ME3, PS3 only got ME2/3 until the Trilogy edition came out.

As a kid, the first Star Wars film I watched was Empire because we didn't own a video player and ESB was the first film I was old enough to see at the cinema. Similarly, when I was younger I would borrow books from my local library, most often not in sequential order, simply because my library often didn't have all the books in a series or some were already on loan.

The Witcher trilogy is all over the place in this regard - TW1 only released on PC; TW2 released on PC and XBox 360; TW3 not being released on current gen consoles at all, but PC, PS4 and XB1. To me it doesn't seem outlandish that people may want to experience a good book/film/game but are unable to so in exact sequential order or are unwilling to wait x many months/years to do so. You're clearly a very patient person in this regard :)

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 27 septembre 2013 - 12:40 .


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I bought ME3 first. I hadn't done much gaming for years, but I started again when DX:HR was released. Having finished DX:HR, I was itching for something similar, so I googled 'games like DX:HR' and a recommendation came up for ME3. I was too lazy to start with ME1 at the time, but I liked ME3 so much I bought ME1 and ME2.

I had always been a casual gamer, so sequence didn't really matter to me, but I did not realise how drastically different a pure ME3 play-through would be when compared to a continuation playthrough with an imported full-paragon ME1 character.

I don't regret that I started with ME3. It's better to discover the series late rather than never. I've never been so hooked on a franchise, in spite of THAT ending. Just on my third trilogy runthrough in anticipation of MEHEM 0.4.

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KaiserShep wrote...

In ME1, at level 60 with good armor you're pretty much invincible.


Pretty much?!  No.  You ARE invincible.  Predator H has 540 shields with no mods on yet.  They had to dumb it down for ME2 because the jazz was so overpowered.  Same with the guns.

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Linkenski wrote...
 It's obvious they decided harbinger should be written out basically because newcomers would feel it was too convoluted or something.


I thought it was because Harbinger had turned into a joke by the end of ME2

That's probably also why the Collector base choice and the Rachni queen choice got so half-assed.


This doesn't make much sense. Reducing the consequences diesn't help new players at all, and they still had to explain -and did explain - what those choices were.

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I did play ME1 and 2 but I also played one character new in ME3 without Genesis to see how that would be. You really miss a lot of things but you'd only know that if you played ME1 and 2.

As a company though you can't say to people that they have to play ME1 and 2 to play 3 anyway. I loved ME1 but the controls are clunky now I am used to the new ME games and if you never played the older games ME1 might feel rather outdated, especially because of the crappy screen resolutions for the PC. You can't really market a game that requires you to play the previous parts. That's sort of financial suicide.

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I am still waiting for a Mass Effect to earn the title of Second and Righteous Mass Effect after the First and True Mass Effect showed so much potential.