I'm curious as to whether I should watch the original show because I am a fan of the 2000 version. I am halfway through season 3 and it has got to be one of the most interesting shows that I have ever watched. However, I can't shake the feeling that the universe was re-imagined with a more modern audience in mind, with the questions of God, labor forces and genreal racism. So, I'd like the opinion of people who watched the original series. Is it any good?
Any BSG fans here?
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Posté 23 septembre 2013 - 07:58
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First off, be prepared to possibly get disappointed. The re-imagined BSG takes a turn to the worse in writing throughout the third and then last season. Personal opinion of course, but it loses a lot of the flair of it dancing around such topics and starts to outright live those tropes, which I found unimaginative and forced at best.
As for the old BSG, haven't seen all of it, but it is no where near a tightknit story line you might expect, more like an episode to episode kind of deal, like most shows from those days. It has overarcing stories, but nothing really compelling imho.
As for the old BSG, haven't seen all of it, but it is no where near a tightknit story line you might expect, more like an episode to episode kind of deal, like most shows from those days. It has overarcing stories, but nothing really compelling imho.
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Posté 23 septembre 2013 - 08:47
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Lorne Greene was pretty good as was John Colicos as Baltar.
Tell me....would you mess with these guys?
Tell me....would you mess with these guys?
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Posté 23 septembre 2013 - 08:49
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The new BSG does lose it's way a bit but I'm one of the people who like how it ended up even if the writers strike did ruin a more interesting final arc.
The original is very 70's, includes aliens and has similar themes though done with less gritty realism. It gets convoluted a bit and ends with a whimper, but it still feels like a cohesive piece.
However do not consider, get blackmailed into or get drunk enough to watch Galactica 1980. It's awful, really, really awful and introduces a new child character almost as annoying as the hybrid kids from V.
Personally I would go BSG reboot - Babylon 5 - DS9 - original BSG - then Buck Rogers. Work your way backwards from gritty realism to Erin Gray & Twiki
The original is very 70's, includes aliens and has similar themes though done with less gritty realism. It gets convoluted a bit and ends with a whimper, but it still feels like a cohesive piece.
However do not consider, get blackmailed into or get drunk enough to watch Galactica 1980. It's awful, really, really awful and introduces a new child character almost as annoying as the hybrid kids from V.
Personally I would go BSG reboot - Babylon 5 - DS9 - original BSG - then Buck Rogers. Work your way backwards from gritty realism to Erin Gray & Twiki
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Posté 23 septembre 2013 - 08:51
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kobayashi-maru wrote...
The new BSG does lose it's way a bit but I'm one of the people who like how it ended up even if the writers strike did ruin a more interesting final arc.
The original is very 70's, includes aliens and has similar themes though done with less gritty realism. It gets convoluted a bit and ends with a whimper, but it still feels like a cohesive piece.
However do not consider, get blackmailed into or get drunk enough to watch Galactica 1980. It's awful, really, really awful and introduces a new child character almost as annoying as the hybrid kids from V.
My memory is a bit fuzzy on that ... do you mean that ape-bear robot thingy?
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Posté 23 septembre 2013 - 08:55
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Not the Daggit called Muffit from original, the star brat Dr Zee from BSG 1980.
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Posté 23 septembre 2013 - 09:07
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kobayashi-maru wrote...
Not the Daggit called Muffit from original, the star brat Dr Zee from BSG 1980.
Oh, that one ... damnit, I had successfully repressed that memory until now.
Curiosity killed the cat ...
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Posté 23 septembre 2013 - 10:25
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I loved the reboot, thought it was fracking awesome, going through it again currently on season 2 bout midway through, i loved the original as a youngster an i have my found memories of it so i dont want them spoiled by revisiting it as a adult
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Posté 24 septembre 2013 - 03:29
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The original is VERY 70's, but cool in a retro way. I'm old enough to have watched the original on tv >.<
I loved the reimagined one - but like others here - it did lose its way and for that reason I am having a hard time remembering the final season.
I loved the reimagined one - but like others here - it did lose its way and for that reason I am having a hard time remembering the final season.
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Posté 24 septembre 2013 - 04:23
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I watched the original series when I was young and enjoyed it on the level of a relatively simple space adventure, but the reboot is my favorite version. I think the issue past the midpoint in the rebooted BSG is that there was more emphasis on the mystical/religious aspect of the show. I was okay with it, although I question the logic of...certain things in the series finale (which I can't talk about because they're spoilers).
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Posté 24 septembre 2013 - 07:31
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AtreiyaN7 wrote...
I watched the original series when I was young and enjoyed it on the level of a relatively simple space adventure, but the reboot is my favorite version. I think the issue past the midpoint in the rebooted BSG is that there was more emphasis on the mystical/religious aspect of the show. I was okay with it, although I question the logic of...certain things in the series finale (which I can't talk about because they're spoilers).
Okay, I'm going to go on a small, rant'ish tirade here with possible spoilers, so:
****SPOILER ALERT!***
**** DO NOT READ UNLESS READY FOR MILD SPOILERS!!!****
****YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!****
****LAST CHANCE TO TURN BACK!****
What I absolutely LOVED and made the reimagined series an instant do-watch-damnit for me was how Gaius Baltar approached religion. Nevermind that I have a pretty similar disposition towards that topic, but it just surprised me that of all things a US series would have take such a strong position in that regard. I also absolutely (yes, I like the word "absolutely") loved how they played around the religious topic in a triangle of religious zealotry, madness and ruthless manipulation with Baltar. Having in mind what Baltar is going to be lateron in the series if the reimagned series orients itself at the original, I was very curious how they'd turn him.
Then when the process of turning Baltar actually went into full gear, I wasn't disappointed.
The problem, and this is also the point where the series started to lose me, was when the whole Kobol arc started and the series turned the religious aspect from a mindgame around Baltar into a central point of its story and character development. First it seemed they'd skit perfectly on the thin line of mythicism and religious zeal/revelation stuff along with myths being based on real events, but it quickly became clear they were going to work the religion handle stronger.
And from then on it went downhill fast, characters started acting like prophets. And I don't mean stuff like Baltar being convinced he is a prophet, that was a brilliant subversion of the issue, no, the show genuinely started to throw prophets around to progress the story, then the whole "holy child" routine and so forth.
It really felt as if the original writers had been replaced by Vatican approved ones.
**** END OF SPOILERS****
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Posté 29 septembre 2013 - 05:11
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I wouldn't watch the original if I were you, there are better things to do with your time.
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Posté 29 septembre 2013 - 05:40
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The Mad Hanar wrote...
I'm curious as to whether I should watch the original show because I am a fan of the 2000 version. I am halfway through season 3 and it has got to be one of the most interesting shows that I have ever watched. However, I can't shake the feeling that the universe was re-imagined with a more modern audience in mind, with the questions of God, labor forces and genreal racism. So, I'd like the opinion of people who watched the original series. Is it any good?
From a "historical TV" pount of view, there are several things about it that stand up quite well.
However, for a younger, contemporary audience, it's doubtful that they would enjoy it quite as much.
There are few similarities to the remake, other than the ships, and the names of the characters. In the original, there were many races, not just humans, and the premise of the show was a request to intercede in the Cylon war peing presented to the Space equivalent of the "United Nations."
Humans, under Adama, were the species arguing that the council should interfere immediately before Hitler... I mean the Cylons, managed to gain traction on key colonies.
Of course, they are unable to rally the council in time, and consequently, the Cylons win the war, and the humans must flee in search of a safe homeworld, in this case the "Lost Thirteenth
The show was absolutely filled with political and religious allegory, although it does have the astounding lack of writing sophistication that could only come from late seventies Network Television.
There was a sense of humour to it, as well, which was absent in the re-make.
But, as I said, it's interesting from a historical perspective. The special effects and writing aren't going to compare to most network or cable television from the last 15 years.
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Posté 29 septembre 2013 - 06:27
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What Jeremiah12lgeek says above is 100% right. It does have the occasional campy 70's vibe but at least there's nothing like the future dancing stuff from Buck Rogers. Most interestingly it has good female characters who get to fly the vipers like the men, so makes valid points on sexism which many 70'S shows didn't.
