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[capn233]

Kalas Magnus wrote...

capn233 wrote...

So it takes 13 pages to argue over whether the Argus is decent with a bunch of stability, rate of fire, and a little accuracy stacked on?

that and pc haxing.

I didn't really watch the video.

To speak directly at the matter, if you play to the Argus's strengths, it can be effective againt humanoid targets.  Not sure what else there is to say.  There are many weapons worse than Argus.  There are many better than it.

[Yo Son]

Is the M-55 Argus the new arc pistol? once taught to be complete junk then proven wrong by max?

[Wizard of Ox]

Yo Son wrote...

Is the M-55 Argus the new arc pistol? once taught to be complete junk then proven wrong by max?

Not even close… 

[Stanry Roo]

This entire thread:

[Miniditka77]

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

Miniditka77 wrote...

DPS has always been very overrated here.  Yes, it's important.  And for bosses, DPS is much more important than accuracy and stability, because you don't need either of those to hit a boss.  Armor DPS is all that matters.  But up through Gold, far more of the enemies are mooks, and lower raw DPS weapons can end up having higher DPS if you land all your shots and can get consistent headshots.  As shown in the video.

Not really, you wanna be able to continuously hit double and triple hits. You'll bring them down way faster that way. 

Well, yes - I didn't think that needed to be mentioned separately from armor DPS.  I was talking raw DPS vs. Accuracy.

[AaronEh]

Deerber wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Max, I've watched your vid up until you take down 2 of the Atlases. You are aware that assassination targets get a DR, right? Cause if you are, then the damage you dealt with 2 mags to them with the DR seems to me pretty consistent with a kill if the DR wasn't there.

Now again, I didn't watch the whole vid nor made any math, so I might be wrong.

Is this gonna evolved into a flame war as well? 

Uh? Why would it? I'm simply trying to help Max into determining if killing an Atlas with 2 mags is possible or not, that's all :happy:

Atlases don't.

Assassination Objectives
- Targets gain damage reduction if they're below a certain wave cost:
Cost >= 90 grants 0% DR
Cost 70-89 grants 15% DR
Cost 40-69 grants 30% DR
Cost 20-39 grants 50% DR

I tried yesterday too - needed three clips each.

Modifié par AaronEh, 24 septembre 2013 - 04:53 .

[Wizard of Ox]

Miniditka77 wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

Miniditka77 wrote...

DPS has always been very overrated here.  Yes, it's important.  And for bosses, DPS is much more important than accuracy and stability, because you don't need either of those to hit a boss.  Armor DPS is all that matters.  But up through Gold, far more of the enemies are mooks, and lower raw DPS weapons can end up having higher DPS if you land all your shots and can get consistent headshots.  As shown in the video.

Not really, you wanna be able to continuously hit double and triple hits. You'll bring them down way faster that way. 

Well, yes - I didn't think that needed to be mentioned separately from armor DPS.  I was talking raw DPS vs. Accuracy.

Ok. I was just pointing out that, for some weapon, the lack of accuracy equals a lack of DPS. Especially since DPS is mostly for contunuous fire weapons. 

[Kinom001]

I was thinking of trying to make a thoughtful comment regarding this subject...then I saw how vitriolic the comments had gotten. Anyway, nice vid.

[lightswitch]

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

Modifié par lightswitch, 24 septembre 2013 - 05:14 .

[Kalas Magnus]

lol

[Deerber]

AaronEh wrote...

Deerber wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Max, I've watched your vid up until you take down 2 of the Atlases. You are aware that assassination targets get a DR, right? Cause if you are, then the damage you dealt with 2 mags to them with the DR seems to me pretty consistent with a kill if the DR wasn't there.

Now again, I didn't watch the whole vid nor made any math, so I might be wrong.

Is this gonna evolved into a flame war as well? 

Uh? Why would it? I'm simply trying to help Max into determining if killing an Atlas with 2 mags is possible or not, that's all :happy:

Atlases don't.

Assassination Objectives
- Targets gain damage reduction if they're below a certain wave cost:
Cost >= 90 grants 0% DR
Cost 70-89 grants 15% DR
Cost 40-69 grants 30% DR
Cost 20-39 grants 50% DR

I tried yesterday too - needed three clips each.

Uh, interesting! Didn't know that, thought it was a flat DR. Where did you get that from, if I may ask? Thanks for sharing anyway! :happy:

[MaxShine]

AaronEh wrote...

Deerber wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Max, I've watched your vid up until you take down 2 of the Atlases. You are aware that assassination targets get a DR, right? Cause if you are, then the damage you dealt with 2 mags to them with the DR seems to me pretty consistent with a kill if the DR wasn't there.

Now again, I didn't watch the whole vid nor made any math, so I might be wrong.

Is this gonna evolved into a flame war as well? 

Uh? Why would it? I'm simply trying to help Max into determining if killing an Atlas with 2 mags is possible or not, that's all :happy:

Atlases don't.

Assassination Objectives
- Targets gain damage reduction if they're below a certain wave cost:
Cost >= 90 grants 0% DR
Cost 70-89 grants 15% DR
Cost 40-69 grants 30% DR
Cost 20-39 grants 50% DR

I tried yesterday too - needed three clips each.

@Deerber: Thanks, but as Aaron pointed out it won't apply for Atlases, it does work for Phantoms and Dragoons though...

Also Aaron gets the same damage values as I do. 1 clip takes down about 70% of the shields and two more mags are needed to finish him off. I get these values consistently with the wave 5 atlases. So as Cirvante said there most probably were some changes remaining in the patch file that he used to get the classic version of Glacier. This might also explain the predictable spawning?  As I said I do not really care for this at all... Just wanted to know whether this is possible in the 'vanilla' version.

[Ledgend1221]

I'm going to do a solo now.

[Yo Son]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

I'm going to do a solo now.

I know what kit your going to use.

GI

[AaronEh]

Deerber wrote...

Uh, interesting! Didn't know that, thought it was a flat DR. Where did you get that from, if I may ask? Thanks for sharing anyway! :happy:

GodlessPaladin Game Mechanics Thread : http://social.biowar.../index/12853150

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

lightswitch wrote...

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

Lol.

[Dunvi]

lightswitch wrote...

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

to his credit, at the very beginning of the thread anno admits he used to be a total scrub and say that stability was worthless.

[Crimson Vanguard]

Im back with more Popcorn and Ryncol.

[RoundedPlanet88]

Dunvi wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

to his credit, at the very beginning of the thread anno admits he used to be a total scrub and say that stability was worthless.

dunvi?
Dafuq you doing here?

[RoundedPlanet88]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Im back with more Popcorn and Ryncol.

*passes over two internets*
you got any cookies as well?

[Crimson Vanguard]

RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Im back with more Popcorn and Ryncol.

*passes over two internets*
you got any cookies as well?

No but I have here some fresh Pyjak Jerky if you are interested.

[RoundedPlanet88]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Im back with more Popcorn and Ryncol.

*passes over two internets*
you got any cookies as well?

No but I have here some fresh Pyjak Jerky if you are interested.

*passes over rest of internets, and keys* hit me bartender!

[FromTheAlps]

Just attempted to kill a few Atlases using Annomanders exact setup. Was not able to replicate his results. Need 3 Piranha clips every single time on a full damage and RoF Detstroyer. And yes, I aimed at the excat spot Annomander is aiming at in his video. Don't know what to think about this.

His Argus with stability mod and scope works surprisingly well though.

[Kalas747]

b00g13man wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

Lol.

Love it.

Also this from the youtube channel:



Payn3zz 14 hours ago

0:25 The hacker snaps to the head of the centurion in less than 33 milliseconds.
Aimbot.



guywiththebatcostume 5 hours ago

dude if he was aimboting why would he miss shots pixels to the side of the enemies heads?

[FromTheAlps]

As I think about it: maybe the game does't detect triple hits so well on lower framerates? That would explain a lot.