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[Deerber]

MaxShine wrote...


@Deerber: Thanks, but as Aaron pointed out it won't apply for Atlases, it does work for Phantoms and Dragoons though...

Also Aaron gets the same damage values as I do. 1 clip takes down about 70% of the shields and two more mags are needed to finish him off. I get these values consistently with the wave 5 atlases. So as Cirvante said there most probably were some changes remaining in the patch file that he used to get the classic version of Glacier. This might also explain the predictable spawning?  As I said I do not really care for this at all... Just wanted to know whether this is possible in the 'vanilla' version.

Yeah I think that's a good guess.

AaronEh wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Uh, interesting! Didn't know that, thought it was a flat DR. Where did you get that from, if I may ask? Thanks for sharing anyway! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]

GodlessPaladin Game Mechanics Thread : http://social.biowar.../index/12853150

Thanks! I lost my bookmark of that thread and now I have it again, sweet! 

Modifié par Deerber, 24 septembre 2013 - 05:48 .

[cowwy]

lightswitch wrote...

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

People shouldn't be allowed to change their views on things. Once they say something once they should stick with it until they die.

[lightswitch]

cowwy wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

People shouldn't be allowed to change their views on things. Once they say something once they should stick with it until they die.

either that or people shouldn't be incredibly condescending smartasses

[cowwy]

lightswitch wrote...

cowwy wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

People shouldn't be allowed to change their views on things. Once they say something once they should stick with it until they die.

either that or people shouldn't be incredibly condescending smartasses

And who would that be in reference to?

[Zyzimorph]

Uhh.....

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Well, I just had a truly, epically horrible game on London, though we managed full extraction (somehow) after a painful 30 minutes.

The circumstances were not ideal, but for fun, I grabbed my Cabal, who was specc'd for melee and weapons (only three ranks in Poisons Strike and 5 in Nightshade Blades.) (EDIT: I also hosted, as I've recently read that Stability bonuses can be sketchy, especially off-host.)

I figured the kit's stability bonuses would be helpful. I also used Stabilization III and the Argus IX had Recoil V (which was probably overkill) and an omni-blade. I didn't go with the scope - although I used to use one regularly (stupid me, I guess... :innocent:) because I wasn't concerned with spread or anything like that, I just wanted to see what it was like with stability.

Anyway, I don't often get the 75 kill medal in Wave 8, really. I didn't have an ideal Argus damage scenario (though I did use one of my few AR III amps and AP III, as well) but I sure seemed to be having an easy time killing things with it. If anything, I tended to over-compensate for the stability, because I'm not used to stacking stability bonuses.

I also don't usually top the scoreboard with my Cabal, let alone when using a non-ideal setup (she's mainly spec'd as a melee build.)

So, I would say that maximizing the Argus' potential, for many players, will probably be achieved through stability stacking, rather than damage stacking. It's what I will be doing when I use it from here on out. 

Modifié par Jeremiah12LGeek, 24 septembre 2013 - 06:50 .

[Ledgend1221]

cowwy wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

cowwy wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

People shouldn't be allowed to change their views on things. Once they say something once they should stick with it until they die.

either that or people shouldn't be incredibly condescending smartasses

And who would that be in reference to?

I've got a list of potential people.

[Stanry Roo]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

cowwy wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

cowwy wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

People shouldn't be allowed to change their views on things. Once they say something once they should stick with it until they die.

either that or people shouldn't be incredibly condescending smartasses

And who would that be in reference to?

I've got a list of potential people.

Pick me, pick me!

[Zjarcal]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

... Argus IX ...

You still have unmaxed Rares?!? 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 24 septembre 2013 - 06:45 .

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Zjarcal wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

... Argus IX ...

You still have unmaxed Rares?!? 

I can't maintain connection to the servers on XBL, right now, so I'm using my PS3 account. 

[cato potato]

cowwy wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

 so, uhh, I'll just leave these here then:

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595381

http://social.biowar...3270/4#15595952

People shouldn't be allowed to change their views on things. Once they say something once they should stick with it until they die.

If Anno didn't come across as such a complete tool in that thread then his total 180 on this subject would be less amusing.

[Deerber]

Element 0 wrote...

I can make the Spitfire look really good and do it ALL day with a 2 minute untweaked edit. 

www.youtube.com/watch  

Prove me that it was rigged. 

Pro spawn control and prediction. 

Wait... Is that what you call good?

Ah... Okay.

[robarcool]

Element 0 wrote...

I can make the Spitfire look really good and do it ALL day with a 2 minute untweaked edit. 

www.youtube.com/watch  

Prove me that it was rigged. 

Pro spawn control and prediction. 

Well, you lost all your shields and a health bar on a juggy. You can't call that good.

[Wizard of Ox]

Deerber wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

I can make the Spitfire look really good and do it ALL day with a 2 minute untweaked edit. 

www.youtube.com/watch  

Prove me that it was rigged. 

Pro spawn control and prediction. 

Wait... Is that what you call good?

Ah... Okay.

Well…that's the spitfire we're talking about after all. Also,

DON'T YOU DARE SAYING THAT AQ'S NOT 1337!! I'LL HAVE YOUR HEAD!

[robarcool]

Element 0 wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

I can make the Spitfire look really good and do it ALL day with a 2 minute untweaked edit. 

www.youtube.com/watch  

Prove me that it was rigged. 

Pro spawn control and prediction. 

Well, you lost all your shields and a health bar on a juggy. You can't call that good.

 

No cyclonic. no amps. AP I. Geth Scanner. 

Ok, still not convinced though. The typhoon and PPR would do better I think.

[BridgeBurner]

AaronEh wrote...

Deerber wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Max, I've watched your vid up until you take down 2 of the Atlases. You are aware that assassination targets get a DR, right? Cause if you are, then the damage you dealt with 2 mags to them with the DR seems to me pretty consistent with a kill if the DR wasn't there.

Now again, I didn't watch the whole vid nor made any math, so I might be wrong.

Is this gonna evolved into a flame war as well? 

Uh? Why would it? I'm simply trying to help Max into determining if killing an Atlas with 2 mags is possible or not, that's all :happy:

Atlases don't.

Assassination Objectives
- Targets gain damage reduction if they're below a certain wave cost:
Cost >= 90 grants 0% DR
Cost 70-89 grants 15% DR
Cost 40-69 grants 30% DR
Cost 20-39 grants 50% DR

I tried yesterday too - needed three clips each.

At what frame rate?

The same thing that scuppers the reegar's damage at lower frame rates has the same effect on the piranha when it comes to triple hits. 3 hits being resolved simultaneously yields better results at 120 than it does at 60, same as the reegar does more damage at 120 than at 60 because the game doesn't register all of the pellets.

Forget that, here's where the real issue is:

(StatName=\\"MaxHealth\\",StatRange=(X=14000.0f,Y=23000.0f)),(StatName=\\"MaxShields\\",StatRange=(X=14062.5f,Y=21094.0f)

The value in the patch 02 coalesced for the health / shields is the "correct" one. So technically, the atlas should have been tougher.

However, as I was putting this together it was the base coalesced that I saved last, so it was using the values for the atlas before it got it's shields / armour buffed. So tecnically, it's 5000 shields and armour short, hence the disparity in the TTK.

Atlas
- (Silver) Armor increased from 11250 to 12940
- (Silver) Shields increased from 11250 to 12940
- (Gold) Armor increased from 16875 to 21094
- (Gold) Shields increased from 16875 to 21094

d_nought wrote...
Anno what's your rationalization for picking RoF on this build. Just wondering.

Didn't respec. If the choice is RoF or mag size I might go with the latter.

Modifié par Annomander, 24 septembre 2013 - 07:37 .

[Deerber]

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

I can make the Spitfire look really good and do it ALL day with a 2 minute untweaked edit. 

www.youtube.com/watch  

Prove me that it was rigged. 

Pro spawn control and prediction. 

Wait... Is that what you call good?

Ah... Okay.

Well…that's the spitfire we're talking about after all. Also,

DON'T YOU DARE SAYING THAT AQ'S NOT 1337!! I'LL HAVE YOUR HEAD!

I was refering to the weapon by the way, not to Er Coots.

[Wizard of Ox]

Deerber wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

I can make the Spitfire look really good and do it ALL day with a 2 minute untweaked edit. 

www.youtube.com/watch  

Prove me that it was rigged. 

Pro spawn control and prediction. 

Wait... Is that what you call good?

Ah... Okay.

Well…that's the spitfire we're talking about after all. Also,

DON'T YOU DARE SAYING THAT AQ'S NOT 1337!! I'LL HAVE YOUR HEAD!

I was refering to the weapon by the way, not to Er Coots.

So was I. Look at the bolded part of my post. The Er Coots part was a joke. 

[d_nought]

Annomander wrote...

Didn't respec. If the choice is RoF or mag size I might go with the latter.

Yeah I was definitely leaning more toward mag size myself.