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#51
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d_nought wrote...

Pretty sure the revive immunity exists on console, it's just that the turning speed is not fast enough to take advantage of it.

Hell, most of ME3's problems on console are due to that abysmal turn speed, which on its fastest setting is about the same as Call of Duty's lowest.


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the argus does suck
if i were on pc id mod it asap

glad you like it though.

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Hell, most of ME3's problems on console are due to that abysmal turn speed, which on its fastest setting is about the same as Call of Duty's lowest.


Yup, if I have played a few hours of CoD or Battlefield and then go back to ME3 I feel like I'm frozen solid. Turning speed and auto-aim is among the worst things with this game on console.

How does the instakill immunity on PC get affected by turning speed? I didn't quite catch that one.


You can get up, dodge, point where you want to go and run away, whereas on console I usually just end up getting staggered in place and wasting the i-frames.

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Meh...Idgaf about the Argus, but I use a similar accuracy focused set-up with the Valkyrie and love it. The Argus' refire time annoys the hell outta me.

Also, I've only once had medi-gel prevent me from being synced, and that was literally because it happened immediately after I pressed the medi-gel button. Like, before the Phantom (who also happens to be the only enemy I've heard this working for on console) switched targets and like a millisecond after my body hit the ground.

So, it works. The window of invincibility is too damn small for it to ever be useful in practice.

Modifié par oO Stryfe Oo, 23 septembre 2013 - 09:18 .


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Element 0 is correct in this. We have a thread talking about the Argus then a modded Argus thread pops up showing how good it is. If the thread was to show good game play fine. If it was to show the Argus in anything less than the ****ty light it is in then mods squash that thought immediately. The Argus sucks. (And when I say that it is of course in comparison to most other weaspons. I don't hold with the argument that such and such a weapon is good in the and of the best players because they wreck with any weapon and any class.


Argus damage was balance changed; ergo I cannot modify it as it gets overwritten by server side download when you connect. Feel free to use an identical set up and compare the various damage values versus specific enemies. Again, you will see that the damage is consistent with the default argus.

You can measure the refire time by watching the video frame by frame. Feel free to download it, compare it to the refire time stat whilst remembering to take into account the universal 7.5% gold game speed increase. You'll see that it has the same refire time as the default version.

You can measure the RoF by counting the number of frames inbetween each shot, again, remember to take into account the 7.5% game speed boost and the 25% RoF buff from devastator mode. Again, you will see this is consistent with the default gun's stats.

Use the same set up and fire at a wall to test the spread; 100% stability and dev mode accuracy with thermal scope.

 

Or how about you play the default game huh? 

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Element 0 wrote...

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I vote Annomander gives this exact mod to Air Quotes and we see how quickly he can solo Gold with the same kit using the Valkyrie.

 

I don't need his retarded mods. Just play the effin game as is and then record. Not this BS. 


You mean this "BS" that makes his game considerably harder?

It sounds to me like you just don't want to admit that the Argus might be a better weapon than you originally said it was.

 

LOL are you serious? You want me to believe anything LoLommander says about what he has modded or not watching an obviously modded video? 

Play the game as it comes out of the box. This is even lamer than your Typhoon/Spitfire comparison. Take out an Atlas with Argus instead of using Piranha and so on. 

This is an effin joke. 


and if I were to make an Argus video then you'd just tell me that I have "obviously" modded files even if I don't.

Or tell me that it's invalid because I didn't lolsolo or do some other random thing that you think I should have to do.

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Element 0 wrote...

Or how about you play the default game huh? 


AQ, it is past bedtime for you right now, go to sleep :D

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Cyonan wrote...

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Cyonan wrote...

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Cyonan wrote...

I vote Annomander gives this exact mod to Air Quotes and we see how quickly he can solo Gold with the same kit using the Valkyrie.

 

I don't need his retarded mods. Just play the effin game as is and then record. Not this BS. 


You mean this "BS" that makes his game considerably harder?

It sounds to me like you just don't want to admit that the Argus might be a better weapon than you originally said it was.

 

LOL are you serious? You want me to believe anything LoLommander says about what he has modded or not watching an obviously modded video? 

Play the game as it comes out of the box. This is even lamer than your Typhoon/Spitfire comparison. Take out an Atlas with Argus instead of using Piranha and so on. 

This is an effin joke. 


and if I were to make an Argus video then you'd just tell me that I have "obviously" modded files even if I don't.

Or tell me that it's invalid because I didn't lolsolo or do some other random thing that you think I should have to do.

 

Well how about you make a video and THEN wait for my reaction? I may surprise you. 

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Or how about you play the default game huh? 


AQ, it is past bedtime for you right now, go to sleep :D

 

I don't sleep. I wait. 

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Cyonan wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

I vote Annomander gives this exact mod to Air Quotes and we see how quickly he can solo Gold with the same kit using the Valkyrie.

 

I don't need his retarded mods. Just play the effin game as is and then record. Not this BS. 


You mean this "BS" that makes his game considerably harder?

It sounds to me like you just don't want to admit that the Argus might be a better weapon than you originally said it was.

 

LOL are you serious? You want me to believe anything LoLommander says about what he has modded or not watching an obviously modded video? 

Play the game as it comes out of the box. This is even lamer than your Typhoon/Spitfire comparison. Take out an Atlas with Argus instead of using Piranha and so on. 

This is an effin joke. 


and if I were to make an Argus video then you'd just tell me that I have "obviously" modded files even if I don't.

Or tell me that it's invalid because I didn't lolsolo or do some other random thing that you think I should have to do.


Weren't we joking last night, about how AQ was going to call hax regardless of the content of the video?

Of course, AQ can feel free to use the same set up, record his own video and then come back and tell me the set up was modded... Only he won't do that, because that would involve him having to admit he's wrong.

As for out of the box comments, we all know AQ is such a baby that if I hit that big fat repair install button and wiped the slate clean, it wouldn't matter. He'd continue taking his usual tantrum.

Modifié par Annomander, 23 septembre 2013 - 09:31 .


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Annomander wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

I vote Annomander gives this exact mod to Air Quotes and we see how quickly he can solo Gold with the same kit using the Valkyrie.

 

I don't need his retarded mods. Just play the effin game as is and then record. Not this BS. 


You mean this "BS" that makes his game considerably harder?

It sounds to me like you just don't want to admit that the Argus might be a better weapon than you originally said it was.

 

LOL are you serious? You want me to believe anything LoLommander says about what he has modded or not watching an obviously modded video? 

Play the game as it comes out of the box. This is even lamer than your Typhoon/Spitfire comparison. Take out an Atlas with Argus instead of using Piranha and so on. 

This is an effin joke. 


and if I were to make an Argus video then you'd just tell me that I have "obviously" modded files even if I don't.

Or tell me that it's invalid because I didn't lolsolo or do some other random thing that you think I should have to do.


Weren't we joking last night, about how AQ was going to call hax regardless of the content of the video?

Of course, AQ can feel free to use the same set up, record his own video and then come back and tell me the set up was modded... Only he won't do that, because that would involve him having to admit he's wrong.

 

Paging Dr.Link to show us how good the Fury is! 

Paging Dr. Jay Hoxtatron to show us how good hipfire Javelin headshots are or how to shoot full ROF Saber and get 5 headshots in 9 shots in a 1 cm square on moving and flinching targets 

Replicate this! 

www.youtube.com/watch  

P.S. Try me. Oh, but you're surprised that I don't take you seriously the same way I woudn't take Link or Jay seriously if they made videos now, because they have played modded games in the past? ORLY? 

Modifié par Element 0, 23 septembre 2013 - 09:41 .


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oO Stryfe Oo wrote...

Meh...Idgaf about the Argus, but I use a similar accuracy focused set-up with the Valkyrie and love it. The Argus' refire time annoys the hell outta me.

Also, I've only once had medi-gel prevent me from being synced, and that was literally because it happened immediately after I pressed the medi-gel button. Like, before the Phantom (who also happens to be the only enemy I've heard this working for on console) switched targets and like a millisecond after my body hit the ground.

So, it works. The window of invincibility is too damn small for it to ever be useful in practice.


To answer the bolded: The only thing I've seen OSPs work on are Brutes and Phantoms due to their lightning fast sync kills when the actual damage  is dealt mid invincibility frame. Praetorians, Banshees, ATLASes and Scions are far too slow since the frames stops you from dying not from being picked up. They will have past by the damage any actual damage dealt. As for Brutes, I've NEVER seen a Brute try sync killing anyone after a medi-gel.

Whilst I do have my reservations about the sync kill immunity, D_Nought's explanation plus the confirmation of it working by several PC D-bags I trust (Deeber, D_Nought, Cyonan) checks out with me given that I employ the innocent til proven guilty approach when it comes to gaming because when it comes to "things I take seriously" it's about 7000 places below "Leaving your Bolognese in the Microwave for 30 seconds longer than you needed to"

This also means that Anno's claim that the only things modded are enemy and objective related also checks out, because, again, why the hell should we spend the next 20 hours disputing this when you could be listening to Massive Attack? Surely that's more important.

As for the Argus: Well I've never had any problems with it, I'm an advocate of calling any gun "not shit" as long as you aren't redecorating TIM's ceiling or sending warning shots into the atmosphere hoping to intimidate Harbinger because most of them. Sure if your a min/maxer there's no reason to use the Scimitar over the Talon or the Argus over the Harrier but in all honesty you can do just fine with the Scimitar or Argus... Just not so much against boss units...

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Annomander wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

I vote Annomander gives this exact mod to Air Quotes and we see how quickly he can solo Gold with the same kit using the Valkyrie.

 

I don't need his retarded mods. Just play the effin game as is and then record. Not this BS. 


You mean this "BS" that makes his game considerably harder?

It sounds to me like you just don't want to admit that the Argus might be a better weapon than you originally said it was.

 

LOL are you serious? You want me to believe anything LoLommander says about what he has modded or not watching an obviously modded video? 

Play the game as it comes out of the box. This is even lamer than your Typhoon/Spitfire comparison. Take out an Atlas with Argus instead of using Piranha and so on. 

This is an effin joke. 


and if I were to make an Argus video then you'd just tell me that I have "obviously" modded files even if I don't.

Or tell me that it's invalid because I didn't lolsolo or do some other random thing that you think I should have to do.


Of course, AQ can feel free to use the same set up, record his own video and then come back and tell me the set up was modded... Only he won't do that, because that would involve him having to admit he's wrong.


It would also require AQ to play the game and, given how he acts on the forums and after watching that Thunderdome I mean White/Collectors, oh what was it again? Even Ralph Wiggum soloed it... Anyways it was a duo oops, memory's going again,let me start over: It was a trio with Cain on standby in case they couldn't do it even with an actually good and credible player helping them. Sorry for the tangent. Anyways after... that humiliating display of gameplay I highly doubt AQ is capable of using the Argus on Gold... or the TGI Harrier...

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LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

I vote Annomander gives this exact mod to Air Quotes and we see how quickly he can solo Gold with the same kit using the Valkyrie.

 

I don't need his retarded mods. Just play the effin game as is and then record. Not this BS. 


You mean this "BS" that makes his game considerably harder?

It sounds to me like you just don't want to admit that the Argus might be a better weapon than you originally said it was.

 

LOL are you serious? You want me to believe anything LoLommander says about what he has modded or not watching an obviously modded video? 

Play the game as it comes out of the box. This is even lamer than your Typhoon/Spitfire comparison. Take out an Atlas with Argus instead of using Piranha and so on. 

This is an effin joke. 


and if I were to make an Argus video then you'd just tell me that I have "obviously" modded files even if I don't.

Or tell me that it's invalid because I didn't lolsolo or do some other random thing that you think I should have to do.


Of course, AQ can feel free to use the same set up, record his own video and then come back and tell me the set up was modded... Only he won't do that, because that would involve him having to admit he's wrong.


It would also require AQ to play the game and, given how he acts on the forums and after watching that Thunderdome I mean White/Collectors, oh what was it again? Even Ralph Wiggum soloed it... Anyways it was a duo oops, memory's going again,let me start over: It was a trio with Cain on standby in case they couldn't do it even with an actually good and credible player helping them. Sorry for the tangent. Anyways after... that humiliating display of gameplay I highly doubt AQ is capable of using the Argus on Gold... or the TGI Harrier...

 

I've seen your videos teenager. And how good you are...not. 

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Guys... less ziggurats please.

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THUNDAHDUMB NOW

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THUNDAHDUMB NOW

With the Argus too.

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Element 0 wrote...


Stop telling me I modded my weapon and prove to me I did.


For example:


Engineer:

1687.5 shields
1687.5 health

3 headshots "almost" kills him.

Argus: passives, dev mode, AR amp, headshot passive 20% = 2.075* to weapon damage.

206 damage base (see balance changes) 206*2.075 = 427 damage per hit, 1068 damage per headshot.


First shot resolved instantly:


1687.5 (engineer shields) - 1068 damage (first headshot) = 619.5 shields left

619.5 -619.5 = 0 shields left, damage carried over from second headshot onto health: 1060 - 619.5 = 440.5

440.5 headshot damage affected by gold shield gate (0.25*) = 110 damage carried over onto health.

2nd headshot leaves engineer at 1687.5 - 110 health = 1577 health.

3rd headshot: 1577 - 1068 = 509 health left.

1687.5 / 10 = 168.75, each "health bar chunk" is representative of 168 health.

509 / 168 = 3 "bars" of health left.



Feel free to double check my maths, and cross reference this to 9:35 in the video.

There is no modded damage.

There is no modded accuracy.

There is no modded refire time, check this for yourself.

There is no modded fire rate, again check this yourself.

Have fun AQ.

:P

Modifié par Annomander, 23 septembre 2013 - 10:00 .


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You definitely become invulnerable for a few seconds after gelling. Never got synced, but I sure as hell have eaten quite a few bullets after getting up.

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I've seen your videos teenager. And how good you are...not. 


1) I haven't actually got any videos.
2) At least I could duo Giant/Reapers.
3) Allow me to applaud you for your incedibly original comebacks. Though I must say the irony of how childish it was (given the use of the word "teenager" in such a context implying that it is in some way a negative quality of a human to go through those 7 years of life where you can be classified as a teen, depending on your own individual interpration of what consitutes the "teenage years") as well as the quality (or lack thereof) of the comeback, which honestly made the whole feel like I'd already read that exact same line a dozen or so times before to and from different people kind of left a bad tastes in my mouth.
4) Since you seem to only be able to deal in simple, ignorant, immature responses I will leave you with this:

"I know you are, but what am I?"

And no i don't know how that comeback at all links to you or your own pathetic excuse of words meant to offend but Pee-Wee Herman said it so there.

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DHKany wrote...

You definitely become invulnerable for a few seconds after gelling. Never got synced, but I sure as hell have eaten quite a few bullets after getting up.


So does everyone else who has ever used a medigel.

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I don't have a **** about engineer numbers or any numbers you throw at me. You've removed enemy shieldgate in one of your videos, you can change DR values on Phantoms, you can make enemies spawn in one place for funneling killing sprees and on and on and on.

I would be an idiot to believe anything you say. You were crying about your beloved Jay headshotting you trough a wall and playing rigged games, but you make rigged game videos and present as proof. You laugh at FTL for modding and posting screenshots of his achievements and yet you do exactly the same but with a video.

Fkn hypocrite.

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Element 0 wrote...

I've seen your videos teenager. And how good you are...not. 


1) I haven't actually got any videos.
2) At least I could duo Giant/Reapers.
3) Allow me to applaud you for your incedibly original comebacks. Though I must say the irony of how childish it was (given the use of the word "teenager" in such a context implying that it is in some way a negative quality of a human to go through those 7 years of life where you can be classified as a teen, depending on your own individual interpration of what consitutes the "teenage years") as well as the quality (or lack thereof) of the comeback, which honestly made the whole feel like I'd already read that exact same line a dozen or so times before to and from different people kind of left a bad tastes in my mouth.
4) Since you seem to only be able to deal in simple, ignorant, immature responses I will leave you with this:

"I know you are, but what am I?"

And no i don't know how that comeback at all links to you or your own pathetic excuse of words meant to offend but Pee-Wee Herman said it so there.

 

LOL. I've seen videos with you in them. Sucking. 

Plus I didn't duo. I've soloed at least 3 waves. And I would've had to solo a lot more if not my rezing MULTIPLE times, when I didn't get rezed once. 

Modifié par Element 0, 23 septembre 2013 - 10:11 .


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DHKany wrote...

You definitely become invulnerable for a few seconds after gelling. Never got synced, but I sure as hell have eaten quite a few bullets after getting up.


4 seconds invuln after standing up... assuming you aren't on my host :innocent:

4 seconds will literally get you to *standing* and nothing else... there's a reason being able to dodge while getting up is so valuable.