Dunvi wrote...
...anno, i don't think that's *quite* how triple buffering works.....
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
I want to know why the Valkyrie and the Argus are even being compared. The Valkyrie is classified as an ultra rare, so I hope it's better than the Argus.
GPR is also classified as a Rare. It's not better than Phaeston. Or Mattock.
GPSMG is also a Rare. Is it better than Locust or Tempest. Don't think so.
Even when comparing UR's there's a massive difference.
Saber is better than Valkyrie. Harrier is better than Valkyrie
Typhoon is better than Spitfire.
Talon is way better than Eagle or Paladin.
The point I'm making is that if you need to compare a gun to another gun in order to make the case that it sucks, then maybe the gun doesn't suck and you just can't use it. There's no problem with being unable to use a gun effectively.
Well that's WHY I'm asking our friend Annomander here to solo GOLD on Firebase White Hazard vs Cerberus, using Argus ONLY on a Vanilla Human Soldier and play the DEFAULT game and record it.
We have plenty of times with Valkyrie done to compare.
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Dunvi wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
Dunvi wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
I want to know why the Valkyrie and the Argus are even being compared. The Valkyrie is classified as an ultra rare, so I hope it's better than the Argus.
GPR is also classified as a Rare. It's not better than Phaeston. Or Mattock.
GPSMG is also a Rare. Is it better than Locust or Tempest. Don't think so.
Even when comparing UR's there's a massive difference.
Saber is better than Valkyrie. Harrier is better than Valkyrie
Typhoon is better than Spitfire.
Talon is way better than Eagle or Paladin.
You've never taken any kind of logic or formal argument class, have you... not sure how pointing out the guns that are massively overbuffed and those that are underpowered proves that over all the gun weapon tiers do approximate some level of power-level groupings.
Also I would disagree with most of those statements to at least some degree, but I digress.
Harrier was never buffed. (not damage wise) (nerfed weight)
Saber was buffed, but so was the Valkyrie
Typhoon was NERFED and yet it's still better than a BUFFED Spitfire.
GPR was buffed multiple times.
Eagle was buffed at least 3-4 times.
So Drunkvi grill pls. STEAK AND TEQUILA.
......my point has just been reinforced, I think. anyone else?
also, for lulz
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Annomander wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
I want to know why the Valkyrie and the Argus are even being compared. The Valkyrie is classified as an ultra rare, so I hope it's better than the Argus.
GPR is also classified as a Rare. It's not better than Phaeston. Or Mattock.
GPSMG is also a Rare. Is it better than Locust or Tempest. Don't think so.
Even when comparing UR's there's a massive difference.
Saber is better than Valkyrie. Harrier is better than Valkyrie
Typhoon is better than Spitfire.
Talon is way better than Eagle or Paladin.
The point I'm making is that if you need to compare a gun to another gun in order to make the case that it sucks, then maybe the gun doesn't suck and you just can't use it. There's no problem with being unable to use a gun effectively.
Well that's WHY I'm asking our friend Annomander here to solo GOLD on Firebase White Hazard vs Cerberus, using Argus ONLY on a Vanilla Human Soldier and play the DEFAULT game and record it.
We have plenty of times with Valkyrie done to compare.
And why would I do that? I find the argus works a treat on the destroyer. Plus, accuracy > damage.
Why don't you do a few solos and record them? Oh, wait...
OMFG.
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
I want to know why the Valkyrie and the Argus are even being compared. The Valkyrie is classified as an ultra rare, so I hope it's better than the Argus.
GPR is also classified as a Rare. It's not better than Phaeston. Or Mattock.
GPSMG is also a Rare. Is it better than Locust or Tempest. Don't think so.
Even when comparing UR's there's a massive difference.
Saber is better than Valkyrie. Harrier is better than Valkyrie
Typhoon is better than Spitfire.
Talon is way better than Eagle or Paladin.
The point I'm making is that if you need to compare a gun to another gun in order to make the case that it sucks, then maybe the gun doesn't suck and you just can't use it. There's no problem with being unable to use a gun effectively.
Well that's WHY I'm asking our friend Annomander here to solo GOLD on Firebase White Hazard vs Cerberus, using Argus ONLY on a Vanilla Human Soldier and play the DEFAULT game and record it.
We have plenty of times with Valkyrie done to compare.
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Tokenusername wrote...
I would think we've learned better than to argue with Err Coots.
It's like arguing religion. No one wins and everyone loses.
Modifié par LuckyBullet95, 23 septembre 2013 - 11:15 .
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prostheticlimbs wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
I want to know why the Valkyrie and the Argus are even being compared. The Valkyrie is classified as an ultra rare, so I hope it's better than the Argus.
GPR is also classified as a Rare. It's not better than Phaeston. Or Mattock.
GPSMG is also a Rare. Is it better than Locust or Tempest. Don't think so.
Even when comparing UR's there's a massive difference.
Saber is better than Valkyrie. Harrier is better than Valkyrie
Typhoon is better than Spitfire.
Talon is way better than Eagle or Paladin.
The point I'm making is that if you need to compare a gun to another gun in order to make the case that it sucks, then maybe the gun doesn't suck and you just can't use it. There's no problem with being unable to use a gun effectively.
Well that's WHY I'm asking our friend Annomander here to solo GOLD on Firebase White Hazard vs Cerberus, using Argus ONLY on a Vanilla Human Soldier and play the DEFAULT game and record it.
We have plenty of times with Valkyrie done to compare.
Ok, but I don't understand why it has to be that particular setup. I also don't understand why you're taking this all so personally.
Does the fact that not everyone agrees with you bother you that much?
Element 0 wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
I want to know why the Valkyrie and the Argus are even being compared. The Valkyrie is classified as an ultra rare, so I hope it's better than the Argus.
GPR is also classified as a Rare. It's not better than Phaeston. Or Mattock.
GPSMG is also a Rare. Is it better than Locust or Tempest. Don't think so.
Even when comparing UR's there's a massive difference.
Saber is better than Valkyrie. Harrier is better than Valkyrie
Typhoon is better than Spitfire.
Talon is way better than Eagle or Paladin.
The point I'm making is that if you need to compare a gun to another gun in order to make the case that it sucks, then maybe the gun doesn't suck and you just can't use it. There's no problem with being unable to use a gun effectively.
Well that's WHY I'm asking our friend Annomander here to solo GOLD on Firebase White Hazard vs Cerberus, using Argus ONLY on a Vanilla Human Soldier and play the DEFAULT game and record it.
We have plenty of times with Valkyrie done to compare.
And why would I do that? I find the argus works a treat on the destroyer. Plus, accuracy > damage.
Why don't you do a few solos and record them? Oh, wait...
There are videos of Hendrix, MaxShine and many others doing the Valkyrie challenge. I did it myself.
So use a Human Soldier who doesn't have any accuracy buffs or stability and use the freaking Argus ONLY to compare. Too hard to grasp?
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LuckyBullet95 wrote...
What I've revisited in this thread:
AQ's a moron (inb4 he tells me to cry to the mod before inevitably reporting me).
The Argus is a weapon of acceptable capability.
What I've learned from this thread:
Anno is Dunvi's ****, and Anno has no problem with that (can't blame him).
You CAN survive sync kills during the invincibility frames provided by medi-gel... provided your playing PC or get lucky with console controls.
The player can do some intersting stuff to game speed and other values in the coalesced.
Invincibility is just fucking wierd.
LuckyBullet95 wrote...
What I've revisited in this thread:
AQ's a moron (inb4 he tells me to cry to the mod before inevitably reporting me).
The Argus is a weapon of acceptable capability.
What I've learned from this thread:
Anno is Dunvi's bitch... and Anno has no problem with that (can't blame him).
You CAN survive sync kills during the invincibility frames provided by medi-gel... provided your playing PC or get lucky with console controls.
The player can do some intersting stuff to game speed and other values in the coalesced.
Invincibility is just fucking wierd.
This post reflects my thoughts exactly.™LuckyBullet95 wrote...
What I've revisited in this thread:
AQ's a moron (inb4 he tells me to cry to the mod before inevitably reporting me).
The Argus is a weapon of acceptable capability.
What I've learned from this thread:
Anno is Dunvi's bitch... and Anno has no problem with that (can't blame him).
You CAN survive sync kills during the invincibility frames provided by medi-gel... provided your playing PC or get lucky with console controls.
The player can do some intersting stuff to game speed and other values in the coalesced.
Invincibility is just fucking wierd.
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Annomander wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
prostheticlimbs wrote...
I want to know why the Valkyrie and the Argus are even being compared. The Valkyrie is classified as an ultra rare, so I hope it's better than the Argus.
GPR is also classified as a Rare. It's not better than Phaeston. Or Mattock.
GPSMG is also a Rare. Is it better than Locust or Tempest. Don't think so.
Even when comparing UR's there's a massive difference.
Saber is better than Valkyrie. Harrier is better than Valkyrie
Typhoon is better than Spitfire.
Talon is way better than Eagle or Paladin.
The point I'm making is that if you need to compare a gun to another gun in order to make the case that it sucks, then maybe the gun doesn't suck and you just can't use it. There's no problem with being unable to use a gun effectively.
Well that's WHY I'm asking our friend Annomander here to solo GOLD on Firebase White Hazard vs Cerberus, using Argus ONLY on a Vanilla Human Soldier and play the DEFAULT game and record it.
We have plenty of times with Valkyrie done to compare.
And why would I do that? I find the argus works a treat on the destroyer. Plus, accuracy > damage.
Why don't you do a few solos and record them? Oh, wait...
There are videos of Hendrix, MaxShine and many others doing the Valkyrie challenge. I did it myself.
So use a Human Soldier who doesn't have any accuracy buffs or stability and use the freaking Argus ONLY to compare. Too hard to grasp?
But why would I deliberately use a set up that makes the gun less effective...
AirQuotes, you make no sense.
What's next AQ, want me to solo versus reapers with a spitfire equipped with ULM and a scope, using no ammo power?
AirQuotes. You. Make. No. Sense.
Element 0 wrote...
LuckyBullet95 wrote...
What I've revisited in this thread:
AQ's a moron (inb4 he tells me to cry to the mod before inevitably reporting me).
The Argus is a weapon of acceptable capability.
What I've learned from this thread:
Anno is Dunvi's ****, and Anno has no problem with that (can't blame him).
You CAN survive sync kills during the invincibility frames provided by medi-gel... provided your playing PC or get lucky with console controls.
The player can do some intersting stuff to game speed and other values in the coalesced.
Invincibility is just fucking wierd.
Well I knew you were a moron WAYYY before this thread.
Good luck picking on Anno and Dunvi too for NO RAISIN.
I'll go refill my popcorn.
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DHKany wrote...
Top priority should be to take out AQ from the human gene pool
Dunvi wrote...
You've never taken any kind of logic or formal argument class, have you...
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LuckyBullet95 wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
LuckyBullet95 wrote...
What I've revisited in this thread:
AQ's a moron (inb4 he tells me to cry to the mod before inevitably reporting me).
The Argus is a weapon of acceptable capability.
What I've learned from this thread:
Anno is Dunvi's ****, and Anno has no problem with that (can't blame him).
You CAN survive sync kills during the invincibility frames provided by medi-gel... provided your playing PC or get lucky with console controls.
The player can do some intersting stuff to game speed and other values in the coalesced.
Invincibility is just fucking wierd.
Well I knew you were a moron WAYYY before this thread.
Good luck picking on Anno and Dunvi too for NO RAISIN.
I'll go refill my popcorn.
Hence why I said "revisited" and not "learned" . I know I am using words longer than 6 letters without using some kind of prefix or suffix but come on, even you should be able to keep up,
I never insulted them. In fact I actually like Dunvi and Annomander, in the last three arguments he's had with you has proven to be an all right guy. (Read: Not a moron like you).
Who eats popcorn whilst using the internet, christ your life is dull...
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me0120 wrote...
Dunvi wrote...
You've never taken any kind of logic or formal argument class, have you...
He'd fail so badly the professor would actually remember him.
our Logic proffessor had to be corrected multiple times.
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LuckyBullet95 wrote...
Element 0 wrote...
DHKany wrote...
Top priority should be to take out AQ from the human gene pool
Who said I'm human?
Because you're mind-blowingly boring. Any other outcome would be interesting and worth putting up with your absurd number of psychological disabilities which goes against the scientifically proven fact that you are about as interesting as that kid who sits in the corner of the playground by himself slowly picking the legs of spiders...
Element 0 wrote...
OMFG x2.
We people have used the Valkyrie on a Human Soldier too (which is also far from an ideal setup - NOT on Destroyer or Tsol or GI) and we HAVE times to compare.
What doesn't make sense for you?
Annomander wrote...
There's no change to the argus here, it's the default gun. I am withholding judgement on which is "better" when comparing the valkyrie to the argus (one is an ultra rare, so it doesn't really matter if its better) but the valkyrie lacks that.... punch that the argus has. Not done the maths, but the TTK on the valkyrie is probably shorter, and you could probably get away with barrel and not stability mod, so it probably would edge ahead.
The argus however, is far from terrible, not for a rare anyway.
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