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[KainD]

So imagine this:

DA:I comes out, and it is an awesome game. Gameplay is spectacular, plot is very well and intelligently written, voice acting is superb, soundtracks are awesome. 

BUT, the main plot contradicts your personal views of the Dragon age world

Examples:

If you are a templar supporter - imagine that DA:I would feature a plot where you play a Tevinter magister and your goal is to inslave all the people.

If you are a mage freedom supporter - imagine that you roleplay a crazed templar and have to slaughter all the mages. 

If you support Qunari - imagine you have to irradicate their culture.

etc. etc.

Basically any views you have on Dragon age universe, imagine you are going to roleplay against those.
Darkspawn chronicles DLC style. 

You can roleplay HOW you do all those things, but the MAIN plot still goes against your views. 


Would you still enjoy the game? 

[Blackrising]

Sure. I can adapt.

[Bionuts]

You would have to use example that make sense.

You're trying to feed off people's emotions concerning the mage/templar conflict by providing situations that won't occur.

[Ravensword]

I think I could handle that, but prepare for an explosion of rage and butthurt within the BSN when that happens.

[Vapaa]

KainD wrote...

If you are a templar supporter - imagine that DA:I would feature a plot where you play a Tevinter magister and your goal is to inslave all the people.

If you are a mage freedom supporter - imagine that you roleplay a crazed templar and have to slaughter all the mages.

How would that work ? if I'm a dalish or quanari mage, how could I be a Tevinter magister or a crazed Templar ?

KainD wrote...

If you support Qunari - imagine you have to irradicate their culture.

With the veil tear and the civil war, I don't think the Quanari extermination is in the menu

KainD wrote...
You can roleplay HOW you do all those things, but the MAIN plot still goes against your views. 


Would you still enjoy the game? 

I can't even picture how the game could go against my views in the first place

Modifié par Vapaä, 24 septembre 2013 - 09:35 .

[KainD]

Bionuts wrote...

You would have to use example that make sense.

You're trying to feed off people's emotions concerning the mage/templar conflict by providing situations that won't occur.

No, it's very clear an simple actually. 

I for example do not really believe in Thedas order, balance or compromise, as well as I wouldn't be so quick to try and close the veil. That's my 2 cents. 

[SgtElias]

Wow. Um . . .

I don't want to outright say "no," because a lot could happen in this hypothetical game of yours, and for all I know, I may love it.

But, erm, probably not. Certainly not as much. I don't usually enjoy games when I'm forced to join a faction I deeply disapprove of to advance the story. Especially in a role-playing game.

But anything is possible, I suppose.

[Bionuts]

You're providing examples that will not happen.

The game has to set a path to follow. In Origins you were a Grey Warden, no matter what. In Inquisition you will be the veil closer, no matter what.

You can choose how to roleplay within the role you're given.

[KainD]

Vapaä wrote...

How would that work ? if I'm a dalish or quanari mage, how could I be a Tevinter magister or a crazed Templar ?

With the veil tear and the civil war, I don't think the Quanari extermination is in the menu

I can't even picture how the game could go against my views

Just imagine a completely different plot from what DA:I is going to be about. 

[KainD]

Bionuts wrote...

You're providing examples that will not happen.

The game has to set a path to follow. In Origins you were a Grey Warden, no matter what. In Inquisition you will be the veil closer, no matter what.

You can choose how to roleplay within the role you're given.

Yes, exactly. 

So as I said IMAGINE, that DA:I is for example is going to be first and foremost about you slaughtering all mages in the name of andraste, you can choose how to roleplay within that role.

OR you can imagine that the game is going to be about something else, like examples I've given. 

[Vapaa]

KainD wrote...

Just imagine a completely different plot from what DA:I is going to be about. 

Why ? the plot is the veil tear and the civil war, why would I be forced to play a Tevinter magister or a crazed templar ?

[Jamie9]

Sure, as long as it's written/presented well.

Since when did the protagonist of a story's beliefs have to align with the audience's? That would severely limit what kind of stories you could tell.

[KainD]

Vapaä wrote...

Why ? the plot is the veil tear and the civil war, why would I be forced to play a Tevinter magister or a crazed templar ?

Why what? Why imagine? Well if you don't want to imagine anything don't. lol? 

Most people here understood. 


And so far seems people wouldn't mind stories in which antagonists are made protagonists. 

Modifié par KainD, 24 septembre 2013 - 09:52 .

[Vapaa]

KainD wrote...

Why what? Why imagine? Well if you don't want to imagine anything don't. lol? 

Why imagine what DAI will not be ? You're basically asking us "Would you enjoy DAI if it wasn't DAI but the exact opposite of what you might enjoy ?" is that really a question ?

[Bionuts]

So, this isn't about Inquisition, then? It's about some imaginary game that will never exist.

[Aolbain]

While I would love a choice in the matter all those stories sounds fun to play.

[KainD]

Vapaä wrote...

KainD wrote...

Why what? Why imagine? Well if you don't want to imagine anything don't. lol? 

Why imagine what DAI will not be ? You're basically asking us "Would you enjoy DAI if it wasn't DAI but the exact opposite of what you might enjoy ?" is that really a question ?

Yes. But the enjoyment part is the question. Would you enjoy it or not. 

[KainD]

Bionuts wrote...

So, this isn't about Inquisition, then? It's about some imaginary game that will never exist.

It is related to the inquisition because some people might not find the main plot of inquisition enjoyable. 

Other than that, who knows? Bioware might make something like the suggested one day. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Sure, I am usually a strict overly good guy, but I enjoy playing an evil guy now and again. I can roll and enjoy it.

[Secretlyapotato]

I would find that qunari one annoying, mostly because I'm still rolling my eyes over the fact that two arishoks in a row got defeated in single combat by puny humans. =D

Please, now those frail little things are somehow going to wipe out the Qun too?

[Big I]

KainD wrote...
You can roleplay HOW you do all those things, but the MAIN plot still goes against your views. 


Would you still enjoy the game? 

Probably. I enjoyed ME2 despite coming into it with a hatred of Cerberus. Though that was mostly because I could a) take every opportunity to tell people how much I disliked and distrusted Cerberus, could be confrontational with the Illusive Man, and c) could completely screw them over with the final game choice.

[caradoc2000]

If Corypheus is still alive, then no.

[Lord Raijin]

I rather play the role of a darkspawn and essentially react the Darkspawn chronicles again. It will be my mission to kidnap as many women as possible, and turn them into broodmothers for my person darkspawn army.

I think Thedas would be a lot better if the darkspawn and demons took over. Humans, dwarves, elves, Qunari and everyone else is a pain in the ass.

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 24 septembre 2013 - 11:59 .

[DarthLaxian]

Blackrising wrote...

Sure. I can adapt.

no - i don't play roles that work against what i believe in (at least not if the game calls itself an RPG - that would be a fixed personality and while i can accept that in some games, an RPG is not one of them)

greetings LAX

[Wulfram]

Those examples, not really. Not for a full length RPG. Less caricatured opposing positions to mine would be different, though I'd still be disappointed if the game was so restrictive.

I prefer RPGs to allow a variety of different character types, but there are practical limitations and trade offs. I don't think it's unreasonable to require that the PC think that a horde of demons eating everybody was a bad thing.

Modifié par Wulfram, 24 septembre 2013 - 12:10 .