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#101
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N7didacus wrote...

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On the contrary, I never use snipers on my GI. Maybe I should, just to see what all the hype is about.

You should use all the weapons on GI, not just Talon. :P


I dumped my first love for the hurricane and offered myself to lord claymore on pissseeee. Haven't played GI in awhile though. I feel bad. 

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Andr0idOS wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

*Fires rifle into air*

EVERYONE just STAY CALM!

*Fires another rifle into the air*

Feel the rage flow through you, BSN. Embrace the rage and release it on this poor fool. :devil:




Also... Raider GI. :wub:


*Fires Revenant into the air.*

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGH!!!!

FEAR MY INACCURATE HAIL OF BULLETS!! PANIC!! PAAAAAANIC!!!

#103
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Ziegrif wrote...

Andr0idOS wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

*Fires rifle into air*

EVERYONE just STAY CALM!

*Fires another rifle into the air*

Feel the rage flow through you, BSN. Embrace the rage and release it on this poor fool. :devil:




Also... Raider GI. :wub:


*Fires Revenant into the air.*

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGH!!!!

FEAR MY INACCURATE HAIL OF BULLETS!! PANIC!! PAAAAAANIC!!!


You must be a bad guy in a movie, the all have terrible aim; maybe all bad guys in movies use the revenant; or even the BPP/ Hurricane but the biological imperfection makes it impossible for them to hit anything. And the good guys have turian passives and can destroy an entire army.

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Yo Son wrote...

The Drell Infiltrator has a total of 32.50% weapon damage,
which cancels out the geth weapon bonus that the Jav gets from the GI. 

See this is your problem - this is incorrect.  The Geth weapon damage bonus is a multiplicative bonus, which basically means that it gives a bonus based on your final damage (after all other bonuses are applied) instead of your base damage.  That 10% Geth Weapon bonus might add as much damage itself as the Drell Infiltrator's 32.50% damage bonus does.

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I use the Javelin on my Salarian Infiltrator.

Though I've been considering converting to the Black Widow. Any thoughts on that?

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Yo Son wrote...


You must be a bad guy in a movie, the all have terrible aim; maybe all bad guys in movies use the revenant; or even the BPP/ Hurricane but the biological imperfection makes it impossible for them to hit anything. And the good guys have turian passives and can destroy an entire army. 

LOL. So very true. :lol:


Miniditka77 wrote...

Yo Son wrote...

The Drell Infiltrator has a total of 32.50% weapon damage,
which cancels out the geth weapon bonus that the Jav gets from the GI. 

See this is your problem - this is incorrect.  The Geth weapon damage bonus is a multiplicative bonus, which basically means that it gives a bonus based on your final damage (after all other bonuses are applied) instead of your base damage.  That 10% Geth Weapon bonus might add as much damage itself as the Drell Infiltrator's 32.50% damage bonus does.

Thank you. I was waiting for someone to explain the difference between multiplicative and additive damage bonuses, as I had always wondered about that myself.

Modifié par Andr0idOS, 25 septembre 2013 - 10:02 .


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DullahansXMark wrote...

I use the Javelin on my Salarian Infiltrator.

Though I've been considering converting to the Black Widow. Any thoughts on that?

I prefer black widow on SI, but that's because I'm a terrible sniper, so I use ED as headshot easymode.
In your hands, you'll be trading entry-exit wound demolition of bosses for rapid mook slaying, since you can get multiple BW shots off during cloaks effect.
Depends on preference, I suppose.
Platinum boss spam might give javilin the edge, gold would suit the BW more I think.

#108
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Yo Son wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Andr0idOS wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

*Fires rifle into air*

EVERYONE just STAY CALM!

*Fires another rifle into the air*

Feel the rage flow through you, BSN. Embrace the rage and release it on this poor fool. :devil:




Also... Raider GI. :wub:


*Fires Revenant into the air.*

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGH!!!!

FEAR MY INACCURATE HAIL OF BULLETS!! PANIC!! PAAAAAANIC!!!


You must be a bad guy in a movie, the all have terrible aim; maybe all bad guys in movies use the revenant; or even the BPP/ Hurricane but the biological imperfection makes it impossible for them to hit anything. And the good guys have turian passives and can destroy an entire army.


Funny thing.

After saying how inaccurate it was I went and gave it the 100% Stability + Thermal Scope + Geth Trooper weapon platform build and what do ya know. 

I could snipe peoples heads from the dagger balcony just fine.

I was not expecting that.

I believe the bad guys just got an accuracy upgrade.

HAHAAA!! FEAR MY MODERATELY ACCURATE HAIL OF BULLETS PEONS!!
(Well they don't do squat against Atlases but I can kill phantoms just fine now.)

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Miniditka77 wrote...

Yo Son wrote...

The Drell Infiltrator has a total of 32.50% weapon damage,
which cancels out the geth weapon bonus that the Jav gets from the GI. 

See this is your problem - this is incorrect.  The Geth weapon damage bonus is a multiplicative bonus, which basically means that it gives a bonus based on your final damage (after all other bonuses are applied) instead of your base damage.  That 10% Geth Weapon bonus might add as much damage itself as the Drell Infiltrator's 32.50% damage bonus does.

With only points in combat passives and no consumables, gear, tac cloak, or debuffs of any kind, a drell does 29 points more damage with a javelin X than a Geth does, a totally inconsiquential amount.
Drell
Geth
But the moment you add any damage bonuses or debuffs the GI will end up being better, due to the geth weapon damage bonus being multiplicative, which effectively gives "interest" on any damage boosts.

Plus theres the effect of having a geth scanner as a power, which makes wallhax easier, without having to waste the gear slot.:wizard:

Still, both kits are deadly with the javelin, the GI is just more so.

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Yo Son wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Yo Son wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

i use the javelin on my asari huntress, one of my favorite builds, highly effective


Seems legit;do you use incindinary rounds? or still phasic/ wrap rounds?


phasics for unkmown enemy, and warp for reapers and collectors if enemy set is known or predicted.

but i spec her for super maxed out dc damage with power amp 4 which gives about +700 dps to armor and +1000 dps to barrier, and +1000 impact warp armor damage and +2000 impact warp damage to barrier + biotic explosion. phasics javelin basically functions as a shield stripper and it allows huntress to stay alivelonger due to javelin being burst damage upfront


When you say + BE; my understanding is that if you detonate DC with wrap DC is removed right? if not, then I been doing it wrong. Also if wrap acts like a detonator, it doesnt apply the 15 percent damage boost right?

Also your ideal of wrap + DC for a dps boost on DC seems somewhat impratical because of the lengthy CD from Javalin.


Dc still does its juicy dot damage.. also u have tacticloak ur cooldown should be minimal. This is basic head knoeledg e

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Yo Son wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Andr0idOS wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

*Fires rifle into air*

EVERYONE just STAY CALM!

*Fires another rifle into the air*

Feel the rage flow through you, BSN. Embrace the rage and release it on this poor fool. :devil:




Also... Raider GI. :wub:


*Fires Revenant into the air.*

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGH!!!!

FEAR MY INACCURATE HAIL OF BULLETS!! PANIC!! PAAAAAANIC!!!


You must be a bad guy in a movie, the all have terrible aim; maybe all bad guys in movies use the revenant; or even the BPP/ Hurricane but the biological imperfection makes it impossible for them to hit anything. And the good guys have turian passives and can destroy an entire army.

You know, the Revenant isn't bad, because its bullet spread actually helps kill things faster (some people will know who and what I am talking about)

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What no more Wat.......

#113
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IamZAE wrote...

Yo Son wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Yo Son wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

i use the javelin on my asari huntress, one of my favorite builds, highly effective


Seems legit;do you use incindinary rounds? or still phasic/ wrap rounds?


phasics for unkmown enemy, and warp for reapers and collectors if enemy set is known or predicted.

but i spec her for super maxed out dc damage with power amp 4 which gives about +700 dps to armor and +1000 dps to barrier, and +1000 impact warp armor damage and +2000 impact warp damage to barrier + biotic explosion. phasics javelin basically functions as a shield stripper and it allows huntress to stay alivelonger due to javelin being burst damage upfront


When you say + BE; my understanding is that if you detonate DC with wrap DC is removed right? if not, then I been doing it wrong. Also if wrap acts like a detonator, it doesnt apply the 15 percent damage boost right?

Also your ideal of wrap + DC for a dps boost on DC seems somewhat impratical because of the lengthy CD from Javalin.


Dc still does its juicy dot damage.. also u have tacticloak ur cooldown should be minimal. This is basic head knoeledg e


The CD am taking about is from cloak breaking; on the other hand, does warp give a 15 percent damage boost if it acts like a detonator?

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A geth sniper "rifle" and a geth sniper... see how the pieces fit together

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I use it on my FQI all the time.

I just got the GI, finally. I'm not sure how I feel about him. Damage output is ridiculous but he's such a glass cannon. >.<

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Yo Son wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Yo Son wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Yo Son wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

i use the javelin on my asari huntress, one of my favorite builds, highly effective


Seems legit;do you use incindinary rounds? or still phasic/ wrap rounds?


phasics for unkmown enemy, and warp for reapers and collectors if enemy set is known or predicted.

but i spec her for super maxed out dc damage with power amp 4 which gives about +700 dps to armor and +1000 dps to barrier, and +1000 impact warp armor damage and +2000 impact warp damage to barrier + biotic explosion. phasics javelin basically functions as a shield stripper and it allows huntress to stay alivelonger due to javelin being burst damage upfront


When you say + BE; my understanding is that if you detonate DC with wrap DC is removed right? if not, then I been doing it wrong. Also if wrap acts like a detonator, it doesnt apply the 15 percent damage boost right? 

Also your ideal of wrap + DC for a dps boost on DC seems somewhat impratical because of the lengthy CD from Javalin. 


Dc still does its juicy dot damage.. also u have tacticloak ur cooldown should be minimal. This is basic head knoeledg e


The CD am taking about is from cloak breaking; on the other hand, does warp give a 15 percent damage boost if it acts like a detonator?


yes, not only it does, but the 15% is added extra damage taken from the biotic explosion on the enemy unit it actually detonated

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Bryn989 wrote...

I use it on my FQI all the time.

I just got the GI, finally. I'm not sure how I feel about him. Damage output is ridiculous but he's such a glass cannon. >.<

You get used to it. How are you speccing his powers?

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FatherOfPearl wrote...

Bryn989 wrote...

I use it on my FQI all the time.

I just got the GI, finally. I'm not sure how I feel about him. Damage output is ridiculous but he's such a glass cannon. >.<

You get used to it. How are you speccing his powers?


I'm using a 5/4/6/6/5 build that I found on the forums.  It's more of a shutgun/pistol build though.  I think if I were to make him a sniper I'd probably drop proxy mine and go for 6 ranks in tactical cloak.  I'm honestly not that great at the whole close range thing, I tend to prefer medium to long range.  I'll probably end up re-spec ing him and strapping a javelin on him.

Part of it may be that the two other infiltrators I primarily use are the FQI and TGI, both of which have hitscan, on demand stagger powers (sabotage and overload, respectively).  The GI doesn't, so I have to actually work at hitting things.

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Alien Number Six wrote...

What no more Wat.......


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Well, do ya, PUNK??

Modifié par mybudgee, 26 septembre 2013 - 02:47 .


#120
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Bryn989 wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

Bryn989 wrote...

I use it on my FQI all the time.

I just got the GI, finally. I'm not sure how I feel about him. Damage output is ridiculous but he's such a glass cannon. >.<

You get used to it. How are you speccing his powers?


I'm using a 5/4/6/6/5 build that I found on the forums.  It's more of a shutgun/pistol build though.  I think if I were to make him a sniper I'd probably drop proxy mine and go for 6 ranks in tactical cloak.  I'm honestly not that great at the whole close range thing, I tend to prefer medium to long range.  I'll probably end up re-spec ing him and strapping a javelin on him.

Part of it may be that the two other infiltrators I primarily use are the FQI and TGI, both of which have hitscan, on demand stagger powers (sabotage and overload, respectively).  The GI doesn't, so I have to actually work at hitting things.

That seems like an... unusual build. Go 4 in cloak and 5 in proxy mine instead if you're not going to use a sniper rifle on him.

Proximity mine is an amazing power and I'd recommend keeping five ranks in it regardless of what gun you use, as being able to make every enemy in a certain radius take an additional 20% damage from all sources is too valuable to pass up. Plus it's impact radius goes through some walls and cover.

For sniping, try 6/5/6/6/3 and use eithe Shield Power Cells or a Cyclonic if you feel you need to. Having proxy mine debuff things can make the difference between two-shot kills and one-shot kills.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 26 septembre 2013 - 03:13 .


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Tokenusername wrote...

Need more Fury Javelin.



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caineghis2500 wrote...

lol:lol:
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Alien Number Six wrote...

What no more Wat.......


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Modifié par jd19, 26 septembre 2013 - 04:18 .


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Tokenusername wrote...

Need more Fury Javelin.


Did that with only 3 points in AF and 6b on throw. It works but kinda kills all the fury