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[andy6915]

Festae9 wrote...

 check this out

https://i.chzbgr.com...4928/h3AF6DC64/

Is it showing how the BSN is always going around and around and around with the same arguments every single week between the same people and how this place is just one giant glowing flame war that never ends just like that fire ring in the GIF just keeps going? That's deep.

[nos_astra]

David7204 wrote...
What's irrelevant is your very silly post. The issue at hand is that there was very clearly significant foreshadowing present in ME 1 very heavily suggesting the Reapers would ultimately be unexplained. Your proclamation that 'there was no clear intention' is a delusion and nothing else.

Thanks for the laugh.

So my saying that in ME1 there was at best a vague idea that an explanation would eventually be given, fueled by the audience expectation based on the typical Bioware plot despite Vigil's and Sovereign's claims of the opposite, is delusional? Well, we'll just have to disagree on this.

Edit: The cycle has repeated itself more times than we all know. Resistance is futile.

Modifié par klarabella, 25 septembre 2013 - 07:43 .

[Hey]

i like you andy

[David7204]

Yes, it's absolutely delusional. And this goes right to back to the laughable idea that players interested in the Reapers are going to shrug, smile, and forget about it as soon as the Reapers say 'We are incomprehensible."

[DirtySHISN0]

So be it.



The cycle continues.

Modifié par DirtySHISN0, 25 septembre 2013 - 07:46 .

[nos_astra]

I'll leave this here. Very much on topic if we're talking about round things anyway.

Davey, sing with us!

Modifié par klarabella, 25 septembre 2013 - 08:09 .

[Ravensword]

So,this thread was about how to improve Kai Leng as a villain until a certain someone derailed the thread.

[Liamv2]

Threads are better off the rails than on them.

[wolfhowwl]

David7204 wrote...

What's irrelevant is your very silly post. The issue at hand is that there was very clearly significant foreshadowing present in ME 1 very heavily suggesting the Reapers would ultimately be unexplained. Your proclamation that 'there was no clear intention' is a delusion and nothing else.

Now now David, that is no way to speak to your intellectual superior.

Klarabella may have run rings around you yet again but this should an opportunity to learn from a sharper mind not an occasion to lash out in anger.

[shodiswe]

It's mostly his dialogue and "personality" that's wrong... How can anyone take that seriously.

Secondly, the fights and "ambushes" he setup were imo amateurish.

Sure, be was sure of hiself and therefor he was forced to improvise, when he was failing... But at the same time he seemed to have a need to prove himself.

If I had been "him" I would have prepared some extra fallback plans and made sure I would win even if the oposition turned out to be ten times worse than expected. It feels like he left a lot to chance and faith.
Had a big mouth that was running all the time. Thessia commes to mind, he was there first, he could have planted some explosives to make his trap more "efficient".

But, it's mostly his personality.

I have no problem with him havign a Sword, though, I think the sword which is supposed to be a monomolecular blade, should have looked somewhat more modern and less medival.
Thin, Razorsharp and very strong. Cutting through steel and stuff like that.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Kailerina:

Really, that's what ME3 has reduced him too. He's just a ballerina who became a space ninja that's all

[CynicalShep]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Kailerina:

Really, that's what ME3 has reduced him too. He's just a ballerina who became a space ninja that's all

Kai is just misunderstood

[MassivelyEffective0730]

CynicalShep wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Kailerina:

Really, that's what ME3 has reduced him too. He's just a ballerina who became a space ninja that's all

Kai is just misunderstood

I STABS YOUS WITH MAH TOOTHBRUSH!

[shodiswe]

If you look at what Sovereign said, it's apparent that it was a buch of crap.
Almost like he/it said, I'm throwing a bunch of lies at you, now sort it out yourself.

We wern't created we have always existed. That can't be true.... Therefor most of what Sovereign said would be untrue.
We're independent, each a nation of our own.... So if that's a lie then they are nothing but puppets servign a puppeteer.
The cycle can not be broken... another lie. Apparently, it's important somehow. It's talking about the cycle not your extinction.

It's like Sovereign wanted to tell you he's a slave and a puppet, and that they can be stopped if you look for a way to stop the cycle.

It's likely Sovereign wanted to be free from the Catalyst and was giving you clues as to how to do just that.

In that case you got some foreshadowing even if it was cryptic. I know a lot of people were beating on the "we have always existed" part. It's another case of read between the lines.

The Reaper on Rannoch, it's right, you can't win by defeating individual Reapers. It sounds more dissapointed than upset or angry or vengeful.

And the Reason why the Reapers are so friendly in Synthesis? The Catalyst is dead and they are finaly free.

Harbinger... I don't really like it but, it's like he said save us. Some think it was serve us. Whatever..
But it would make sense that he said save us, I want to be free, and then misses shepard and only causes enough damage to fool the Catalyst and pretend he/it did it's job.
There is no way anyone can survive a direct hit from a Sovereign class dreadnaught that can tear fully shielded dreadnaughts appart.

So, there is a lot of crazy stuff going on. Either Bioware over did the invulnerable heroe with a plot shield or there is plenty of foreshadowing that the Reapers arn't happy about being pawns.
Maybe Harbinger resisted just as Benezia resisted. The end gameplay should have been a lot better however.

Modifié par shodiswe, 25 septembre 2013 - 09:26 .

[Hey]

wolfhowwl wrote...

David7204 wrote...

What's irrelevant is your very silly post. The issue at hand is that there was very clearly significant foreshadowing present in ME 1 very heavily suggesting the Reapers would ultimately be unexplained. Your proclamation that 'there was no clear intention' is a delusion and nothing else.

Now now David, that is no way to speak to your intellectual superior.

Klarabella may have run rings around you yet again but this should an opportunity to learn from a sharper mind not an occasion to lash out in anger.

[CynicalShep]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Kailerina:

Really, that's what ME3 has reduced him too. He's just a ballerina who became a space ninja that's all

Kai is just misunderstood

I STABS YOUS WITH MAH TOOTHBRUSH!

This pretty much sums him up

[andy6915]

Don't diss that toothbrush shank, man. It killed the strongest biotic in the galaxy, it's the ultimate weapon. Forget the Crucible, that toothbrush could easily have killed all the Reapers.

[Made Nightwing]

Wait, the Clique has banners now? Damn, I need to post more.

[Bleachrude]

SNascimento wrote...

I thought swords made sense in the ME universe, and Phantoms are actually one of the coolest and most interesting enemies in the trilogy.

Swords are ALSO the go-to weapon in Dune because of the same type of issue. Shielding protects against high energy/high speed weapons but a sword gets past it.

I mean, Dune is a classic, so I'm kind of surprised so many people think swords would be useless in ME.

[nos_astra]

It's probably because there are cutscenes like during the Citadel coup where you can one-shot a fully armored, completely aware biotic with tech abilities.

It makes handing a random character a sword because armor, kinetic shields and biotic barriers are oh-so-troublesome a worthless gimick rather than a smart choice.

[Baihu1983]

Should not have been so cheesy, none of the lame win via cutscene crap and he should have been built up in 2 in place of Jacob.

[TheWerdna]

Retroactively return to how Kai Leng acted in Mass Effect: Retribution, aka back when Drew wa the one writing him and thus acted like a credible villain (and not a retarder ninja). Kai Leng was basically a evil version of an infiltrator Shepard in that book, and should have stayed that way. Also, he's apparently of Chinese decent, so why did they make him look like a ninja...

[Baihu1983]

To appeal the kidz.

[StarcloudSWG]

Saren had plot armor. He had decently thick plot armor. Yet, somehow... the encounters with him felt more compelling. Why? Because it was clear that he *could* be hurt, *could* be defeated.

Kai Leng? Kai Leng was plot armored with everyone around him hampered by Idiot Balls.
He wasn't even a villain. He was a heavy handed, writer's pet, plot device.

[KaiserShep]

In the case of Saren's encounter, it wasn't a full-on forced defeat where all seems lost either. Saren had Shepard, but then Saren goofed up and dropped his guard when he heard the alarm, allowing Shepard to get the upper hand, and the mission was ultimately a success, albeit at the cost of a squad member. Being forced to fight him again later worked, because you were able to foil at least one of his plans along the process.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 26 septembre 2013 - 08:36 .