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[TheMyron]

If Shepard could have joined Cerberus for the events of ME3, it would probably be like Sideous having Vader AND Maul at his sides at the same time.

P.S. Kai Leng should have had his throat slit for Liselle instead of jabbed in the gut for Thane.

[Bleachrude]

Ok, now THIS is bias.

In the Saren fight, you literally could be beating him down and then cutscene happens and all of a sudden with apprently no transition, he's calmly holding you by your throat....

At no time does Kai Leng have a cutscene as egregious as this....

Kai Leng is bad, but to specifically call him out because of cutscene issues while downplaying SAREN?

[TheMyron]

Speaking of Liselle, Can one "see" when one is tranquilized?

[StarcloudSWG]

The difference is, when you won against Saren at Virmire, Saren ended up *running*. He didn't win and stop the bomb from going off.

When you beat Kai Leng, he ends up *winning* instead of *running*. He gets away with the data and the VI you needed.

The first is a bit annoying, but it gets across the idea that Saren is dangerous.
The second is a gratuituous "F*** You!" to the player.

Modifié par StarcloudSWG, 27 septembre 2013 - 01:56 .

[in it for the lolz]

By taking out Kai Suckhead and put in Deadpool!

And watch as he kicks your Shepard's a** with your own health bar!

[KaiserShep]

in it for the lolz wrote...

By taking out Kai Suckhead and put in Deadpool!

And watch as he kicks your Shepard's a** with your own health bar!

Ah one of the best special attacks on Marvel vs. Capcom 3.

[in it for the lolz]

KaiserShep wrote...

in it for the lolz wrote...

By taking out Kai Suckhead and put in Deadpool!

And watch as he kicks your Shepard's a** with your own health bar!

Ah one of the best special attacks on Marvel vs. Capcom 3.

And the 2 best part if it is that:

1) Both Thane and the other guy get killed in the Citadel Coup.
2) Liara gets killed as well (no plot armour can save you form Deadpool!).

[Baihu1983]

Was it ever explained how they knew the VI was on Thessia? They just sort of show up.

[KaiserShep]

The Illusive Man says that the data the Eva mech extracted from the Mars archives lead him there.

[Bleachrude]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

The difference is, when you won against Saren at Virmire, Saren ended up *running*. He didn't win and stop the bomb from going off.

When you beat Kai Leng, he ends up *winning* instead of *running*. He gets away with the data and the VI you needed.

The first is a bit annoying, but it gets across the idea that Saren is dangerous.
The second is a gratuituous "F*** You!" to the player.

Not even close IMO.

Kai Leng running off at the least doesn't have you arbitarily picked up by the throat and manhandled as you are by Saren....

THAT is a bigger break to immersion IMO than you wailing on Leng and him running off after he uses the gunship to destroy the floor...

[Random Geth]

By not making him an incompetent toolbag? He only "wins" at Thessia courtsey of an invincible gunship (which is funny, I destroyed HOW MANY of those in ME2?). He faces you on Cronos with a frigging platoon and he's still a joke. Even on Insanity, clocking in under one or two minutes is absurdly easy.

I also love how after his bravado with the "No...now it's fun." line, he runs the hell away as soon as he's faced with having to actually fight his "fun" matchup on the Citadel. He's also dumb as a bag of wet rocks and is just a toady for TIM.

He's an unchallenging idiot, and I was annoyed that the narrative took him seriously; he didn't make me hate Cerberus. He made me hate the lame contrivances that allowed him to survive as long as he did.  The worst of which being Shep inexplicably RUNNING TOWARDS THE ELEVATOR when she sees it open and him in it.  Man, in that situation, if only Shep carried some swort of device that could deliver a lethal projectile at a human-sized target.  If only, huh?

Modifié par Random Geth, 28 septembre 2013 - 07:14 .

[TheMyron]

Random Geth wrote...

By not making him an incompetent toolbag? He only "wins" at Thessia courtsey of an invincible gunship (which is funny, I destroyed HOW MANY of those in ME2?). He faces you on Cronos with a frigging platoon and he's still a joke. Even on Insanity, clocking in under one or two minutes is absurdly easy.

I also love how after his bravado with the "No...now it's fun." line, he runs the hell away as soon as he's faced with having to actually fight his "fun" matchup on the Citadel. He's also dumb as a bag of wet rocks and is just a toady for TIM.

He's an unchallenging idiot, and I was annoyed that the narrative took him seriously; he didn't make me hate Cerberus. He made me hate the lame contrivances that allowed him to survive as long as he did.  The worst of which being Shep inexplicably RUNNING TOWARDS THE ELEVATOR when she sees it open and him in it.  Man, in that situation, if only Shep carried some swort of device that could deliver a lethal projectile at a human-sized target.  If only, huh?

As a soldier Shepard, why are no grenades thrown in? And how close was Shepard hoping to get to the elevator before he/she did something else?

And I think it would have been fun if Shepard was either a N7 Slayer (Maleshep) or N7 Shadow (Femshep) and that had an effect in not only how the combat was fought but with the cutscenes too.

[Display Name Owner]

For one thing, he was meant to be TIM's hardest fixer, a guy who goes in alone, handles things, and gets out. So I guess the fact that every time we see him he's assisted by a squad of goons (Shep's no better in that regard as it happens) doesn't really gel with that. The one time he really succeeds against Shep, it's with a bloody gunship behind him.

I dunno, really. In general I guess he could just have been less cartoony, tough talking in his letter when we'd already seen him fail to kill the Council.

[Dubozz]

Kai Leng from the Redemption (free google samles): Like most of humanity, he was a child of a truly global culture. His Chinese heritage was clearly predominant in his dark hair and eyes, but around the jaw and nose were subtle clues pointing to some Slavic or Russian ancestry as well.

Cerberus had discovered Kai Leng a decade ago, liberating him from an Alliance prison camp. The Illusive Man had looked carefully into his past before recruiting him: a marine with N7 special forces training, he had been arrested after killing a krogan in a bar fight on the Citadel while on temporary leave.

The Alliance had come down hard on the former lieutenant, making an example of him. He was stripped of his rank and sentenced to twenty years in military prison. Kai Leng’s long list of documented confrontational and even violent behavior toward aliens had no doubt contributed to the harshness of his sentence. For the Illusive Man, however, his anti-alien leanings were proof of character. That, combined with the fact that he had managed to kill a krogan while armed with nothing more than a standard-issue service blade, had made him a perfect recruit.

In the decade since Cerberus had arranged his escape, Kai Leng had become one of the organization’s top wet-work operatives. But he was more than just a ruthless killer. He understood the need to be discreet; he knew how to plan and implement complex and delicate operations.

Kai Leng from ME3: I'MA SPACE NINJA BALLERINA!!! HEY SHEPARD YOU SUCK!!!! NEXT TIME I WILL KILL YOU LIKE A B*** HAHAH!A!!

[TheN7Penguin]

No problem with the cutscenes. But really, in the temple he started spazzing out against Tali and didn't land any blow in the entire fight because he was somewhat preoccupied. He needed a better AI. Unless seizures are a normal part of Kai Leng's fights.
I started laughing as I shot him repeatedly in the face whilst Tali was trying to run away but was stuck against the wall by the epileptic assassin.

Come on, that was an epic fight.

[LiL Reapur]

Better Kai Leng = No Kai Leng

[TheMyron]

Is Kai Leng even able to do the "Finishing Move" that phantoms do?

[DatRandomGuy1]

If he didn't murder 3 of the character's I love. I hope he rots in virtual hell.

[Dr. Megaverse]

DeadLang...

[Oni Changas]

Drew Karpyshyn.

This is not a slight on the writer on ME3. It's just that a character like this needs a certain consistency to work in a different environment like ME3. If anything, Leng was best described as a racist human Thane with similar pre ME1 credentials as Shepard. In a way, like TDKR Bane.

[thehomeworld]

What would make for a better Kai Lang? Him not even being in the game.

Seriously space ninjas need to die and they aren't scary or tactically mind blowing either I mowed down 4 dancing ninjas in MP before I even realized they were carrying swords then I noticed and went, " Crap space ninjas...." the swords make you look dumb, swords vs guns is never a viable option ask the Samurai how well that worked, your suits make you look like you work for a fetish shop, and in the case of Lang he looks like he got lost on his way to the anime convention, and I'm not even going into his child antics or the fact he ruins every last scene he is applied in save for the moment before he gets shep's blade in his stomach. Yeah now that I think about it him dying was the best scene he was in his best moment was falling to the floor. 

Modifié par thehomeworld, 07 octobre 2013 - 05:26 .

[KaiserShep]

thehomeworld wrote...

Seriously space ninjas need to die and they aren't scary or tactically mind blowing either I mowed down 4 dancing ninjas in MP before I even realized they were carrying swords then I noticed and went, " Crap space ninjas...." the swords make you look dumb, swords vs guns is never a viable option ask the Samurai how well that worked, your suits make you look like you work for a fetish shop, and in the case of Lang he looks like he got lost on his way to the anime convention, and I'm not even going into his child antics or the fact he ruins every last scene he is applied in save for the moment before he gets shep's blade in his stomach. Yeah now that I think about it him dying was the best scene he was in his best moment was falling to the floor. 

I think this is being a bit unfair to the phantom enemies in the game. They're easily the hardest of the lot, because they're the most mobile, are the only ones that can either insta-kill if you attempt a melee attack or strip your shields entirely in one swipe (and stun-lock you, allowing another phantom to stick you in the back), have tactical cloak, and can still deal damage from a distance with that gauntlet weapon of theirs. On silver or higher, one shot alone deals a fair amount of damage, and if you're still using the starter weapons in MP, you're not going to mow through them easily at all. The only Cerberus enemies that are stronger are turrets and the Atlas. Not even the dragoons are as bad as the phantoms with those whips of theirs.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 07 octobre 2013 - 06:52 .

[thehomeworld]

You can also insta kill them back if they're in mid dance move and you shoot them not to mention you can dodge them in several ways.