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[MysticSpace]

How about giving him a better personally than 12 year old playing halo 4 online. Or maybe they could have given him a proper introduction like the end of ME2 instead of hoping really hard that we read novels he was in.

[Baihu1983]

As I said he should have been in the squad instead of Jacob to build him up.

[SSV Enterprise]

There's a few things I would do to "fix" Kai Leng.

First, a different voice actor. No disrespect to Troy Baker, but he didn't pull it off. He came across as too self-assured and childish. Get someone who's more intimidating.

I wouldn't change too much about the Cerberus Coup. Him killing Thane was good.

The Thessia confrontation needs extensive reworking. Do not have him pull out a drone to project The Illusive Man's hologram. That whole scene was a disservice to TIM and did nothing for Kai Leng. Instead, let Kai Leng do the talking. Let him voice his motivations, why he's working for Cerberus. Let Shepard chew him out for killing Thane (or Kirrahe, as the case may have been).

And for the actual fight, no freaking gunship. Let Kai Leng overcome Shepard by his own merits. Maybe even have it work like Object Rho in the Arrival DLC. But just don't make it feel like Kai Leng cheated against Shepard rather than actually beating him with his own skills.

[David7204]

If people don't accept Leng beating Shepard with the help of a gunship, you think they'll accept him beating Shepard without it?

[windsea]

I think he was put in too late in the series.

If he was a party member back in ME2 rather then to just be a lighting rod of hate that he was in the book and ME3 then he may have been a more interesting character at the very least.

Also think of how creepy the romance could have been.

[gosimmons]

windsea wrote...

I think he was put in too late in the series.

If he was a party member back in ME2 rather then to just be a lighting rod of hate that he was in the book and ME3 then he may have been a more interesting character at the very least.

It could have helped.

I wasn't really bothered with Kai Leng's concept per se, but I think it's a shame that his characterization doesn't go further than sending a troll email. 

[KaiserShep]

I never knew Shepard could mention the gunship! Too bad you have to lose a bunch of characters in order to get it.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

David7204 wrote...

If people don't accept Leng beating Shepard with the help of a gunship, you think they'll accept him beating Shepard without it?

If Kai Leng was actually build up as a credible threat by establishing him as a dangerous, cunning and competent soldier who is an equal to Shepard, and not just as a dumb MGS reject? Then yes, I do think people would be much more okay with Shepard being beaten.

Granted, I do think the fight on Thessia would have to be redone. Have Kai Leng, through some sort of trick (could be the gunship), seperate Shepard from his squad and take him on in a one on one fight would be the best way to do it.

[Dieb]

SSV Enterprise wrote...
First, a different voice actor. No disrespect to Troy Baker, but he didn't pull it off. He came across as too self-assured and childish. Get someone who's more intimidating.

That's hardly the actor's fault, as in "not pulling it off". His interpretation might have been unlike something you would have preferred, but it's still well done. Voice actors -especially in the original, developer-supervised version-  improvise fundamentally less often than it is often generally assumed.

SSV Enterprise wrote...
I wouldn't change too much about the Cerberus Coup. Him killing Thane was good.

I absolutely agree.

The only improvement would be showing more clearly how Thane is far from his former capabilities during the actual scene, or how using concentrated Biotics was probably not the healthiest decision for his weakened body. I laughed though, when Thane points that out in an unusual bragging fashion on his death bed, and Shepard answer slightly uncertain "I'll... spread the word."

SSV Enterprise wrote...
The Thessia confrontation needs extensive reworking. Do not have him pull out a drone to project The Illusive Man's hologram. That whole scene was a disservice to TIM and did nothing for Kai Leng. Instead, let Kai Leng do the talking. Let him voice his motivations, why he's working for Cerberus. Let Shepard chew him out for killing Thane (or Kirrahe, as the case may have been).

And for the actual fight, no freaking gunship. Let Kai Leng overcome Shepard by his own merits. Maybe even have it work like Object Rho in the Arrival DLC. But just don't make it feel like Kai Leng cheated against Shepard rather than actually beating him with his own skills.

The whole problem for me is actually that Kai Leng shows rather too much personal interest in Shepard - that dreadful email comes to mind. I would have preferred him not to show any emotions at all, and staying a cold-blooded, silent professional. It is because he seems to actually compare himself to Shepard in a competetive way, which maks his "cheating" so painful.

However, I still think the gunship was the best decision. Players will never fully accept their main character loosing to an individual in a cutscene. Ever. (That's of course not a fact but my personal opinion, however I stand by it.) The way it is presented in the game, he didn't actually best Shepard - he just cheated. Because that's what bad guys and dishonored ex-soldiers do. For me, it's a lot easier to accept it that way: If it is out of my control, than at least have it be out of my character's  control, too.

Modifié par Baelrahn, 09 octobre 2013 - 10:45 .

[Baihu1983]

KaiserShep wrote...

The Illusive Man says that the data the Eva mech extracted from the Mars archives lead him there.

Had that line the other day but why would the info be on Mars? Why would top secret Asari info be on the mars archives?

Seeing as they kept the info away from everyone else?

[shodiswe]

Make him more Darth Maul maybe

Instead of an overcompensating kid.

Modifié par shodiswe, 10 octobre 2013 - 10:38 .

[iOnlySignIn]

Make him talk less (like 90% less) and in a less human voice. Like Darth Nihilus.

An average Phantom is more intimidating than Kai Leng because of less pointless talking.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 10 octobre 2013 - 11:01 .

[Straken-SWE]

He look a little wierd I think, doesn't really fit, it's like he's from another game.
Other than that he's kinda nice, might as well be a part of the crew. He both talks and looks like a good guy I think. Having no real problem with him other than the armor.