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[Angrywolves]

Taking issue with certain assertions made.
Not aware of any rpg players, including the ones on the BSN playing an rpg for 50 plus hours for one hour of romance.
Just not realistic .
Most rpg players want to immerse themselves in the character and deal with whatever the game's plot /story is.
Romance for me enhances the game, but it's not a be all /end all sort of thing.
Romances vary in rpgs. Very few have physical romance aka sex scenes. Most have things like , you kiss the girl, you're married, you come home from adventuring and she's there, you have a conversation , she fixes you dinner, the two of you retire for the night and you get up the next morning and head off adventuring .
That's it.
Yes there is some talk about romances in other forums, or how attractive some character is, it doesn't approach the level that it does in the BSN because those romances are window dressing.
Fast J immy nailed it ?
Didn't agree with him at all. Not fair to compare rpg to what happens in the Twilight forum

[BlueMagitek]

Oh, he totally nailed my perspective on it. You underestimate our unrequited bond.

[Angrywolves]

Forums like Twilight, Pretty little liars, the vampire chronicles where young people with raging hormones come to discuss those romances,those romances are a major part of the story.
Not so in most rpgs.
Sure there are sex scenes in GTA games, but I consider those part of the criminal backdrop to those. I don't consider them romances .
There are the Quantic Dream games, which have romances in them. Alpha Protocol has romances .
There's a company that makes rpgs that you can buy and download.
The games are rpgs but rather shallow and unsophisticated .
Romance plays a big part in those games and supposedly there are sex scenes.
No I haven't played those games.
Finally there are a few Japanese dating sims that have been translated into English for the pc. They are romances and the sex allegedly comes at the end of the game after the characters have fallen in love.
Those sims are reported to be quite lengthy, so one could argue the romance is the object of the game.

[Angrywolves]

As it is, fast jimmy was right about my asian thread but wrong about romances .
I think it's very likely Bioware will do away with romances altogether in a few years.
You can make a successful rpg without them. Bethesda did it.
Although Bethesda is mod friendly.
EA reportedly isn't .
There have been tons of mods made for the Bethesda games over the years, supposedly including some pornographic ones.
I've never seen them or played but they've been discussed on message boards.
Someone will hack Frostbite eventually, so we'll ser how far it goes.
But ultimately I expect romances won't be such a big issue because Bioware will stop doing them and console players who want them will have to look elsewhere.

[Merlex]

Angrywolves wrote...

Taking issue with certain assertions made.
Not aware of any rpg players, including the ones on the BSN playing an rpg for 50 plus hours for one hour of romance.
Just not realistic .
Most rpg players want to immerse themselves in the character and deal with whatever the game's plot /story is.
Romance for me enhances the game, but it's not a be all /end all sort of thing.
Romances vary in rpgs. Very few have physical romance aka sex scenes. Most have things like , you kiss the girl, you're married, you come home from adventuring and she's there, you have a conversation , she fixes you dinner, the two of you retire for the night and you get up the next morning and head off adventuring .
That's it.
Yes there is some talk about romances in other forums, or how attractive some character is, it doesn't approach the level that it does in the BSN because those romances are window dressing.
Fast J immy nailed it ?
Didn't agree with him at all. Not fair to compare rpg to what happens in the Twilight forum

Good post and i agree with you. Your description of most RPG romances is dead on. And it's the kind of romance i prefer. Character development is what i'm after. I don't want sex scenes. I want my character to grow and mature; to build a life, like most people try to do. It's all part of character development. As for who, i'll leave that to the devs.

Though i hope, that since there were 5 romances out of 7 companions, there will be 6 out of 10 companions. That would give straights or gays 3 choices. I wasn't really happy with the choice between, the crazed Bloodmage who would endanger her entire tribe, over her obsession with lost power; or the loose sorry, free-spirited party girl, that may bring me back an STD. A third choice would have been nice. I said there were 7 companions, and i know that there are technically 9 DA2 companions; but you lose a sibling right away, and the other one after Act 1, and only get him/ her back for the end.

[Shark17676]

azarhal wrote...

Shark17676 wrote...

I don't know why people are so confident that there will only be 3-4 LIs in the game.

Writers said there wouldn't be more romance than in DAI/DAO that's why.

Can you provide a source, please?  Because I'm not just gonna take your word for it.

[Chanda]

David Gaider wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
How BioWare Fans Set Themselves Up for Disappointment: A Case Study

Yes. It's not lost on us that, when it ultimately does come out as to who is romanceable and who isn't, there will be people who have built up speculation to the point that those romances all but existed in their minds-- and we'll have taken it away from them like a beloved teddy bear. Yanked it right out of their hands as if a romance had already been written and we deliberately deleted it.

The idea that every character that is so much as glimpsed must provide concrete proof as to why they shouldn't be romanceable is a bit eyeroll-inducing, but such is life in these parts.

Admittedly, it did feel that way with Varric when he was revealed for DA2. There was so much hype over him that when it was revealed that he wasn't a romanceable companion, there was a lot of heartache.

Modifié par Chanda, 28 septembre 2013 - 07:44 .

[Angrywolves]

The source stuff again .
Most people asking for sources/links are just seeking to discredit someone . Say they're lying. That they made it up.
The person asking for a sources/links just wants to feel superior .
I have heard also that there won't be more or less romance than previous DA games.
Gaider probably said it. It might be in the Game Informer stuff.
If not there's always Google.
Rotfl.

[billy the squid]

MasterScribe wrote...

The mailbox, if she has plenty of space for my package.

Damn right. I like this guy, he understands.

[Spectre slayer]

Shark17676 wrote...

I don't know why people are so confident that there will only be 3-4 LIs in the game.

The game is still a year+ from completion.  For all we know, barring mabaris and golems and family members of your PC and whatnot, all of your companions will be romance-able.

All of your companions will NOT be romancable and it looks like they also will NOT be player sexual judging by the interview I just read.

@Lallyzippo No. Not all companions in DAI will be romanceable, sorry.

David Gaider Twitter 
mobile.twitter.com/davidgaider/status/379130085518766080

They've said multiple times they will have less romance companions, that they will have more content and be harder to achieve.

Finally, how will romancing work in the game? Is it the same kind of deal as previous BioWare games, or can anyone romance anyone?

I wouldn't say that anyone can romance anyone, but there will certainly be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another. We haven't really been able to comment on how many of your followers will be 'romance-able' or who will be 'romance-able', but we do have a whole lot of interesting combinations. Romance is a really important part of our storytelling, and we really want to give the player a lot of options there.

www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-16239-Dragon-Age--Inquisition-Interview-----Jonathan-Perry-Talks-Sex--Mounts--Demons-and-Destruction.html

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 28 septembre 2013 - 04:34 .

[Chanda]

Spectre slayer wrote...

Shark17676 wrote...

I don't know why people are so confident that there will only be 3-4 LIs in the game.

The game is still a year+ from completion.  For all we know, barring mabaris and golems and family members of your PC and whatnot, all of your companions will be romance-able.

All of your companions will NOT be romancable and it looks like they also will NOT be player sexual judging by the interview I just read.

@Lallyzippo No. Not all companions in DAI will be romanceable, sorry.

David Gaider Twitter 
mobile.twitter.com/davidgaider/status/379130085518766080

They've said multiple times they will have less romance companions, that they will have more content and be harder to achieve.

Finally, how will romancing work in the game? Is it the same kind of deal as previous BioWare games, or can anyone romance anyone?

I wouldn't say that anyone can romance anyone, but there will certainly be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another. We haven't really been able to comment on how many of your followers will be 'romance-able' or who will be 'romance-able', but we do have a whole lot of interesting combinations. Romance is a really important part of our storytelling, and we really want to give the player a lot of options there.

www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-16239-Dragon-Age--Inquisition-Interview-----Jonathan-Perry-Talks-Sex--Mounts--Demons-and-Destruction.html

Whoah, not player sexual? That kind of goes against what the devs said earlier in the year, if I'm remembering correctly. But whatever, that's cool. The game will still be awesome.

[Potato Cat]

Wow, so maybe a Varric romance could only be on the short legged table for female dwarves? Yay for possible race reactivity!

[Chanda]

Elfman wrote...

Wow, so maybe a Varric romance could only be on the short legged table for female dwarves? Yay for possible race reactivity!

Yay for the possibility of a Varric romance in any form. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in affecting your companions.

[SamaraDraven]

I can't say with any sort of confidence who I think will be an LI. I have my preferences, of course, but since more than half the roster of companions has yet to be revealed I couldn't predict who's romanceable and who isn't. I'd like to see Cassandra as a romance option - for both sexes if possible.

Varric? I do like him and would have my PC romance him at least once but if he's not available, that's great too because he was my partner-in-crime and it was epic!

I'm also a fan of Cullen... (yeah I know - "Kill it with fire!!!") LOL! But, at this point, I'm rather leery of having him in there as anything but an NPC because - and this is my opinion only - if he takes up one of those 4 precious LI spots the backlash by the haters will only cause more strife. More so than the fans who don't get what they wish, if you ask me. I can't speak for the others, but I'll keep to my little corner of BSN and quietly bemoan it to a sympathetic party if I don't get what I want. And then I'll play DA:I some more and find something else to obssess over.

The reason it worries me is because an excess of p!ss and vinegar thrown at the devs could sour them on creating more Dragon Age down the line. Not that it would be the only reason, mind you, but I do think it would be a big enough ruckus to contribute, which is when I get to say "This is why we can't have nice things". So, if Cullen IS a romanceable companion; I want him to be killable too. Let everyone have the option to do whatever they want with him and be done with it.  Since the game is already so far along; I doubt my input will matter but that's what I *want*.

I can't see Iron Bull as being romanceable if he's a follower of the Qun. I don't know if he's Tal Vasoth or what, but it goes against the Qun for a Qunari to engage in romances the way we think of them. Personally, he doesn't interest me but I know that Qunari LIs have a devoted interest so I think it's possible...

I don't think Vivienne should be discounted as an LI just yet. I found Flemeth strangely attractive and I'd like to think I'm not alone in that... I don't feel age should automatically be a barrier for a romance option, though. 

I'm still smarting at the fact that Hawke could only flirt with Aveline... *sniff* And I hope one of the unknown faces among our companions is a Nathaniel Howe carbon copy. 

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 28 septembre 2013 - 07:29 .

[Shark17676]

Spectre slayer wrote...

Shark17676 wrote...

I don't know why people are so confident that there will only be 3-4 LIs in the game.

The game is still a year+ from completion.  For all we know, barring mabaris and golems and family members of your PC and whatnot, all of your companions will be romance-able.

All of your companions will NOT be romancable and it looks like they also will NOT be player sexual judging by the interview I just read.

@Lallyzippo No. Not all companions in DAI will be romanceable, sorry.

David Gaider Twitter 
mobile.twitter.com/davidgaider/status/379130085518766080

They've said multiple times they will have less romance companions, that they will have more content and be harder to achieve.

Finally, how will romancing work in the game? Is it the same kind of deal as previous BioWare games, or can anyone romance anyone?

I wouldn't say that anyone can romance anyone, but there will certainly be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another. We haven't really been able to comment on how many of your followers will be 'romance-able' or who will be 'romance-able', but we do have a whole lot of interesting combinations. Romance is a really important part of our storytelling, and we really want to give the player a lot of options there.

www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-16239-Dragon-Age--Inquisition-Interview-----Jonathan-Perry-Talks-Sex--Mounts--Demons-and-Destruction.html

OK, but this is the part that I still have questions about: You say that "They've said multiple times they will have less romance companions, that they will have more content and be harder to achieve." and yet you provide no sources for this.  Nothing I have personally read has ever suggested anything of the sort.  In fact, what you did source actually contradicts that, as it states that Bioware is well aware of just how important romance is to both the story and the players and, and this is the biggest kicker: THEY WANT TO GIVE THE PLAYER A LOT OF OPTIONS.  So WHY, praytell, would they limit romance, as you've suggested?  It makes no sense.

[Shark17676]

Angrywolves wrote...

The source stuff again .
Most people asking for sources/links are just seeking to discredit someone . Say they're lying. That they made it up.
The person asking for a sources/links just wants to feel superior .
I have heard also that there won't be more or less romance than previous DA games.
Gaider probably said it. It might be in the Game Informer stuff.
If not there's always Google.
Rotfl.

That is the most ridiculous, nonsensical thing I've ever read.

Then again, I never take anything you post seriously anyway.

Modifié par Shark17676, 29 septembre 2013 - 12:58 .

[Angrywolves]

I don't care what you think shark.
You seem ignorant about a lot of thing.
I don't believe anything you aay.
Amazes me you know anything.
So find a nice lake and jump in.

[Angrywolves]

Bioware is contradicting themselves apparently.
They've also said multiple times DAI would have no more and no less romances than the other DA games.

[Fredward]

Angrywolves wrote...

The source stuff again .
Most people asking for sources/links are just seeking to discredit someone . Say they're lying. That they made it up.
The person asking for a sources/links just wants to feel superior .
I have heard also that there won't be more or less romance than previous DA games.
Gaider probably said it. It might be in the Game Informer stuff.
If not there's always Google.
Rotfl.

Wonder what my lecturers would say if instead of a bibliography I just wrote "GOOGLE IT YOU LAZY BIZNATCH!"

EDIT:

Even more off-topic but does anyone know why the mods now delete some threads instead of closing them? It seems counter-productive. Closed threads show people what not to do. Deleted threads do nothing.

Modifié par Foopydoopydoo, 29 septembre 2013 - 06:23 .

[Walrider]

Angrywolves wrote...

I don't care what you think shark.
You seem ignorant about a lot of thing.
I don't believe anything you aay.
Amazes me you know anything.
So find a nice lake and jump in.

I'm confused. Your last post was all about bashing people because they ask for sources because, apparently, the only reason someone would ask for a source is because they want to feel superior.

And in this post, you're saying Shark's ignorant, and you don't believe anything they say, a stance that seems similar to your portrayal of people asking for sources.

How do I brain.

Edit: OT, but I think it's a bit premature to make predictions for the future LIs. I'm personally hoping Cullen and Varric (yeah, yeah, I know, shush), but my gut's saying Cullen's gunna go down a dark road that's not gunna leave him open to that, and Varric's heart is with Bianca, so poo.

Modifié par ObiWanJesus, 29 septembre 2013 - 08:53 .

[Andraste_Reborn]

I wouldn't say that anyone can romance anyone, but there will certainly be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another.

That doesn't necessarily mean that they romance options aren't playersexual, although it certainly could mean that. It could also mean that there are race restrictions, or class restrictions. (Hypothetically, you could have someone who wouldn't romance a mage. Or someone who would only romance a mage.) It could just mean that companions pay more attention to whether your actions align with their beliefs this time.

Modifié par Andrastee, 29 septembre 2013 - 01:23 .

[Valdrane78]

David Gaider wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
How BioWare Fans Set Themselves Up for Disappointment: A Case Study

Yes. It's not lost on us that, when it ultimately does come out as to who is romanceable and who isn't, there will be people who have built up speculation to the point that those romances all but existed in their minds-- and we'll have taken it away from them like a beloved teddy bear. Yanked it right out of their hands as if a romance had already been written and we deliberately deleted it.

The idea that every character that is so much as glimpsed must provide concrete proof as to why they shouldn't be romanceable is a bit eyeroll-inducing, but such is life in these parts.

That could go two ways, either the fans are very passionate about the characters you create and want to romance them (which is kind of flatering when you think about it), or they are completely and totally dependant on make believe characters to fill some sort of holein their lives.

Personally I don't care, as long as you guys give me the smarmy, smart assed, hard to get chick with a chip on her shoulder to romance.

[Chari]

 

I wouldn't say that anyone can romance anyone, but there will certainly be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another.

Thank Gods not all LI will be playersexual/do-anything-I'll-sleep-with-you-anyway-puppy-killer. Complex romances are always welcome