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Sylvius the Mad

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The Wolf Man wrote...

No. It doesn't matter. He makes money off this industry - off the people who buy the game now and ask questions later. Gaider's attitude is unprofessional. A majority of people on these boards are too starstruck to own up to that very real fact. 

He owes the OP an apology. His remark was clearly aimed at the OP through transparent condescension. It wasn't a clever insult by any means - and he is insulting one of the millions of people who contribute to his paycheck.

1. ``Pedantic`` is not an insult.
2. Ill-defined standards of professionalism are a waste of everyone`s time.

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Gaider said that a Qunari has a real name while Kirby mentioned that Qunari don't have names. I'm confused.

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sharyu1988 wrote...

Gaider said that a Qunari has a real name while Kirby mentioned that Qunari don't have names. I'm confused.


I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's like, "Sten" from Origins would actually be "named" with something we'd consider similar to a serial number - based on lineage, because the qunari mate exclusively (?) for procreation. It wouldn't be a name like most people would conceptualise a name.

Like, we named one of our sons after a grandparent, because it's traditional within my husband's culture. We named the other after a friend who was killed, because it's a nice name and I miss him. I had a girl's name in mind, although we never had a girl, just because it's my favourite flower. All of those names have some significance to me, as the parent, and over time they've become coloured by my kids' personalities. A serial number wouldn't do any of that. (Although, I do admit a fondness for Battle Star Galactica's no 6. And, you may be able to argue it, in a way, based on lineage, I guess.)

But, someone in this thread (maybe DG?) was saying that Sten simply gave the name "Sten" to himself so that the humans/elves/dwarves would understand. To him, he's a soldier, so that's what he expects to be called, and it's a name they would conceptualise as meaning that he's really serious about his military role. Which he is.

Like, the Arishok in Kirkwall isn't called Garry. It's fundamentally necessary, to him, that his role in understood.

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I imagine we call him 'Sten' for much the same reason a lot of soldiers address their NCO's as 'Sergeant.'

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While I do prefer to "properly" categorize everything, I have to side with the writers on this issue. As some have already mentioned, there are real-world examples of a name for a religious group being used to classify people by other categories, so it shouldn't be a big deal for "Qunari" to be used to refer to both a religious group and a race in a fictional, video game world. In fact, I'm going to give you one such example:

In Bosnia (for those of you with weak geography, it's a country in Europe ;)), the population is divided by nationality into (Bosnian) Serbs and Croats. By religion it is divided into Christians (Orthodox and Catholic) and Muslims. However, the people there tend to internally classify themselves as Serbs and Muslims. "Why the heck would they do that?", you ask. I have no idea, all I can think is that it's a cultural thing. My guess is it most likely stems from a stereotypical notion that if you are a Croat, you are by default a Catholic and if you're a Serb, you're by default an Orthodox Christian. Going from this, the Muslim segment of the population labels themselves and is labeled by others simply as Muslims. I personally don't think this improper classification should continue, but it has somehow worked for them for years and it still survives. It is used in both everyday speech between regular people and also by TV and newspaper reporters, politicians, etc. On a similar note the Bosnian people, whether they are Serbs or Croats, tend to refer to people from the neighboring country of Serbia (which is where I'm from) as Serbians instead of Serbs, yet you don't really see us complaining.

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Firky wrote...

sharyu1988 wrote...

Gaider said that a Qunari has a real name while Kirby mentioned that Qunari don't have names. I'm confused.


I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's like, "Sten" from Origins would actually be "named" with something we'd consider similar to a serial number - based on lineage, because the qunari mate exclusively (?) for procreation. It wouldn't be a name like most people would conceptualise a name.

Like, we named one of our sons after a grandparent, because it's traditional within my husband's culture. We named the other after a friend who was killed, because it's a nice name and I miss him. I had a girl's name in mind, although we never had a girl, just because it's my favourite flower. All of those names have some significance to me, as the parent, and over time they've become coloured by my kids' personalities. A serial number wouldn't do any of that. (Although, I do admit a fondness for Battle Star Galactica's no 6. And, you may be able to argue it, in a way, based on lineage, I guess.)

But, someone in this thread (maybe DG?) was saying that Sten simply gave the name "Sten" to himself so that the humans/elves/dwarves would understand. To him, he's a soldier, so that's what he expects to be called, and it's a name they would conceptualise as meaning that he's really serious about his military role. Which he is.

Like, the Arishok in Kirkwall isn't called Garry. It's fundamentally necessary, to him, that his role in understood.


That may be reasonable. Thank you:lol: