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[Made Nightwing]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Sure, they can build the Crucible. But can they unite the galaxy together? Can they acquire all the assets they need? Can they make the Crucible any more than just a big floating cherry bomb? I think not.

Your Shepard is welcome to that opinion, but he is simply wrong. Shepard is a highly skilled infantryman, but that's it - ONE infantryman. Sure, Hacket might have to send a dozen N7 soldiers instead to get stuff done but Shepard is replaceable (e.g. "uniting the galaxy" works out exactly the same if Shepard got Wrex, Mordin, Legion and Tali killed i.e. if no one knows him at all)

The turians, on the other hand, are not replaceable.

That is, of course, if ME didn't run entirely on "rule of cool" where the protagonist is the centre of the universe because he happens to be the protagonist of a video game.

I like this human, they understand.

Especially since it was Victus who came up with the idea of pulling the krogan into the war effort, Wrex who had the idea to cure the genophage, Mordin's work that cured it, Wrex and Eve's political pull that managed to unite the krogan, turian generals who employed the delaying tactics on Palaven that managed to keep the bulk of krogan and turian forces intact for the fight on Earth, Hackett was the one who had the idea to look for a superweapon on Mars, Liara who found it and translated the data, Liara and EDI who decrypt most of the useful data they run across in their journey, and an army of scientists and labourers who build the damn thing. Hackett planned the battle against the Reapers and executed it brilliantly with the forces he had. Virtually every other major player had a harder task to complete than Shepard.

Shepard: Galaxy's greatest middleman, but only a middleman.

[Xplode441]

TheGarden2010 wrote...
one thing I simply saw no call for was Shepard barking at Liara in ME1 after either Feros or Noveria "nobody tells me what to do on my ship" (or something along those lines)

It's "I'm not going to be a puppet for the Asari!" and I choose it every time because lolLiara.

[FlyingSquirrel]

o Ventus wrote...

Morinth is a centuries-old serial killer who is on-par with Samara when it comes to biotics. She's hardly unarmed. She's also not defeated, given that by the end of Samara's loyalty mission, she's locked into a standstill with Samara.

What I meant is that it seems like Shepard and Samara have her under control by the time Shepard grabs her and Samara knocks her to the floor - all she does after that is try to crawl away. There must be *some* way to capture and imprison a biotic.

[Jukaga]

StreetMagic wrote...



None of that is exactly relevant if you don't want to cure the genophage. It's just one scenario where Turians seem necessary and awesome.

On a sidenote, I like most of the Krogan characters, but they're breeding rates are scary. They are natural "winners" at the game of evolution in every respect. Their only weakness at this point is the genophage. Even creatures that aren't so blessed can still cause havoc if left unchecked. Some of the most unlikely animals (such as rabbits) can qualify as a destructive and invasive species, depending on competion in their new environments. The only thing to do is start clubbing the bunnies to death and not let any back in again. And the Krogan are even worse. Curing the genophage to me is just willingly handing them the baton - "Yeah, you can just win at everything. Here you go. Now go gain so much power in numbers that you can dictate anything you want, 'peacefully' or not so peacefully. Be fruitful and multiply. I'm such a nice guy, aren't I? Teehee"

I agree, on pretty much any examination of the genophage to cure it is pure insanity. Wrex must have hit his head pretty hard between Me2 and Me3 because he completely forgot the reason he was able to hold power in the first place was his breeding alliance schemes. That all goes out the window with a cured genophage. Even with Eve alive, as EDI points out if even 1% of the females becoming fully fertile will result with billions of new Krogan every year, which just keeps compounding. So if Wreav/Wrex do go aggressive and 99% of the females follow Eve's lead and refuse to breed we still have a galaxy wide threat to civilization.

If I cure, it's for my own reasons and I inevitably have to pick Control; a post-Destroy galaxy with a cured, resurgent Krogan would be a nightmare. It's the same with the Geth, but for different reasons. A pure Destroyer sabotages the 'phage and eliminates the Geth.

[YourFleshIsMine]

Anfauglith5 wrote...

YourFleshIsMine wrote...

Reputation points, but what you say is not entirely correct. I still get renegade or paragon points from some choices and just by playing you can't figure out really when you get reputation and when you get paragon or renegade points. I agree there are differences but I still managed to NOT get the last choices with a full reputation bar, so there is still something going on there.

That's wrong.
In ME3, renegade, paragon and reputations points are used to unlock any charm/intimidation option.

For a specific option, you will need a number of point, let's say 1000 points, which can be 1000 reputations, 1000 paragons, 500 reputaion + 500 paragons...

Except for one occurance. At the end of the game, If you want to use Charm/Intimidation agains TIM, you need a full reputaion bar, and you also have to use every charm/intimidation options with him in the Game. But you can do that with a 50% Paragon/50% Renegade

It's not wrong, in fact you explained it yourself with the second part, which I wasn't aware of. I most certainly did have a full reputation bar, but, I may not have used every opportunity with TIM along the way. My guess is that's what happened. I will watch that the next time around.

What I will say is that now I understand the ME3 version better it makes a lot more sense than the ME1 and 2 systems. It still lacks transparency as a system though. In the end it's all about working towards a specific ending and it is a bit annoying that by clicking space once too quickly you might skip an option during the gameplay and therefore not get that one choice at the end, which is still a significant one I would say. That's the one thing I find a bit annoying about the ME3 system still.

[chemiclord]

It's a big problem with the "player-defined" "blank slate" character type games as a whole.

There's only so many responses characters can have to a shapeless blob; because that's really all "your Shepard" is to the game itself. They can't really comment on anything because there's nothing to comment ON. This lack of dynamics only becomes WORSE over a stretch of time, rather than better, especially as characters really SHOULD "know" what your character is about.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Good point about the shapeless blob character.

[adayaday]

DA2 had an interesting attempt to tackle this problem.

[DatRandomGuy1]

Certain squadmates don't really care for attitude, they are loyal to Renegade Shep. (Garrus is a prime example, never hates/argues against Shep, as far as I know.)

Some character's are loyal to Renegade shep but will be rude/disobediant back to him at rare times. (Tali during ME2's loyalty mission if you present the evidence is proof of this, and if you side with legion during the conflict, Joker is another example.)

Some character's don't take crap from Renegade shep and his actions. (Jack is a good example of this, she won't roll over and be tame if Shep is aggressive, the same can be said for Ashley at rare times (If you are negative through eden prime to her in ME1 then she will be annoyed at this, the same is if you shoot her in ME3. ("I hope the reapers send you to hell" compared to Kaiden's "Man had to take a stand."))

[Anarchy__]

StreetMagic wrote...

DatRandomGuy1 wrote...

Certain squadmates don't really care for attitude, they are loyal to Renegade Shep. (Garrus is a prime example, never hates/argues against Shep, as far as I know.)

Some character's are loyal to Renegade shep but will be rude/disobediant back to him at rare times. (Tali during ME2's loyalty mission if you present the evidence is proof of this, and if you side with legion during the conflict, Joker is another example.)

Some character's don't take crap from Renegade shep and his actions. (Jack is a good example of this, she won't roll over and be tame if Shep is aggressive, the same can be said for Ashley at rare times (If you are negative through eden prime to her in ME1 then she will be annoyed at this, the same is if you shoot her in ME3. ("I hope the reapers send you to hell" compared to Kaiden's "Man had to take a stand."))

Ashley will say the "take a stand" line, depending on certain advice you give her in the hospital.

I don't think she's anything like ME1 Ashley anymore. Chalk it up to different writers, but also to what Udina said.. that "officer" training chilled her out. She and Kaidan are like carbon copies of each other now.

Kaiden is the most wooden character in the whole trilogy