Plaintiff wrote...
Metagame class distinction. Completely arbitrary. No bearing on the actual logic of the setting.AresKeith wrote...
Except the fact that said PC isn't a rogue/Explain why. Form a cogent argument for once in your life.Your talks of equality in weapon skills are literally ridiculous
Steelcan wrote...
Ok I'm gonna take a break from spamming for a sec to address this stupidity.Plaintiff wrote...
How does being a fry cook in any way prevent him from also beng a fully-qualified physician?
What is your beef with people who work two jobs?
Do you think someone who is fully qualified to be a surgeon is going to be flipping burgers?
And if you do, I advise you undergo a psychiatric examination.
Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 septembre 2013 - 01:53 .
I see no reason to dismiss it as an impossibility, however unlikely.Steelcan wrote...
Ok I'm gonna take a break from spamming for a sec to address this stupidity.
Do you think someone who is fully qualified to be a surgeon is going to be flipping burgers?
Plaintiff wrote...
I see no reason to dismiss it as an impossibility, however unlikely.Steelcan wrote...
Ok I'm gonna take a break from spamming for a sec to address this stupidity.
Do you think someone who is fully qualified to be a surgeon is going to be flipping burgers?
The ****?Plaintiff wrote...
I see no reason to dismiss it as an impossibility, however unlikely.Steelcan wrote...
Ok I'm gonna take a break from spamming for a sec to address this stupidity.
Do you think someone who is fully qualified to be a surgeon is going to be flipping burgers?
The mechanics of combt are themselves arbitrary. A 'warrior' could be sneaky, but mechanics prevent them from being so. As could a mage.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
Within the context of the setting, yes. There is no indication that being a 'rogue' or being a 'warrior' are mutually exclusive things. The two have nothng to do with each other, and one could easily be both.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Simply because I'm confused about what you are aguing about. Is it that warriors and rogues are the same? Because that's not true.
Wielding a two-handed sword has no relevance to being a pickpocket, and there's no logical reason why a person should be unable to develop both skills.No, that's not the argument. What the class is actually called is irrelevent. 'Rogue' is exactly as arbitrary a title as 'Thief' or 'Scoundrel' or anything else. They're all just names for a vague character archetype.Is it because rogue isn't a fitting name for the class? Because that's not true.
You mentioned the definition of Rogue earlier. It was along the lines of a liar. That's why the name makes sense. Lying is indirect. Liars are often called backstabbers. Liars are called snakes, which is similar to how rogues move through a battlefield, in a sneaky way, ready to pounce at any moment. Warriors charge into battle head-on. There's the difference.
Plaintiff wrote...
The mechanics of combt are themselves arbitrary. A 'warrior' could be sneaky, but mechanics prevent them from being so. As could a mage.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
Within the context of the setting, yes. There is no indication that being a 'rogue' or being a 'warrior' are mutually exclusive things. The two have nothng to do with each other, and one could easily be both.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Simply because I'm confused about what you are aguing about. Is it that warriors and rogues are the same? Because that's not true.
Wielding a two-handed sword has no relevance to being a pickpocket, and there's no logical reason why a person should be unable to develop both skills.No, that's not the argument. What the class is actually called is irrelevent. 'Rogue' is exactly as arbitrary a title as 'Thief' or 'Scoundrel' or anything else. They're all just names for a vague character archetype.Is it because rogue isn't a fitting name for the class? Because that's not true.
You mentioned the definition of Rogue earlier. It was along the lines of a liar. That's why the name makes sense. Lying is indirect. Liars are often called backstabbers. Liars are called snakes, which is similar to how rogues move through a battlefield, in a sneaky way, ready to pounce at any moment. Warriors charge into battle head-on. There's the difference.
The class label you select is metagame information, it doesn't effect your character's role in the setting in the least. 'Rogues' can join the army. 'Warriors' can be thieves and assassins, mages also.
We see this repeatedly in both games. In DA2 there are even 'rogue' Templars, even though, if we follow the logic you'd have me believe, they should be barred from the profession because... their combat style implies a lack of discipline? What?
It is a known fact of our universe that people occasionally work multiple jobs. Why don't you explain to me why this particular combination is impossible, and not just merely improbable.Steelcan wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
I see no reason to dismiss it as an impossibility, however unlikely.Steelcan wrote...
Ok I'm gonna take a break from spamming for a sec to address this stupidity.
Do you think someone who is fully qualified to be a surgeon is going to be flipping burgers?
Please tell me you are not baffled as to why no one takes you seriosuly
Modifié par Plaintiff, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:03 .
Guest_The Mad Hanar_*
Modifié par The Mad Hanar, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:01 .
On the contrary, I'm being extremely serious. You're the ones asking me to accept absurdities, not only about fictional worlds, but now also about reality.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Srsly bro, srsly? Are you just trying to be silly right now?
Plaintiff wrote...
On the contrary, I'm being extremely serious. You're the ones asking me to accept absurdities, not only about fictional worlds, but now also about reality.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Srsly bro, srsly? Are you just trying to be silly right now?
because anyone who has been to med school is not going to be flipping burgersPlaintiff wrote...
It is a known fact of our universe that people work multiple jobs. Why don't you explain to me why this particular combination is impossible, and not just merely improbable.Steelcan wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
I see no reason to dismiss it as an impossibility, however unlikely.Steelcan wrote...
Ok I'm gonna take a break from spamming for a sec to address this stupidity.
Do you think someone who is fully qualified to be a surgeon is going to be flipping burgers?
Please tell me you are not baffled as to why no one takes you seriosuly
Plaintiff wrote...
It is a known fact of our universe that people work multiple jobs. Why don't you explain to me why this particular combination is impossible, and not just merely improbable.Steelcan wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
I see no reason to dismiss it as an impossibility, however unlikely.Steelcan wrote...
Ok I'm gonna take a break from spamming for a sec to address this stupidity.
Do you think someone who is fully qualified to be a surgeon is going to be flipping burgers?
Please tell me you are not baffled as to why no one takes you seriosuly
Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:04 .
Plaintiff wrote...
It is a known fact of our universe that people work multiple jobs. Why don't you explain to me why this particular combination is impossible, and not just merely improbable.Steelcan wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
I see no reason to dismiss it as an impossibility, however unlikely.Steelcan wrote...
Ok I'm gonna take a break from spamming for a sec to address this stupidity.
Do you think someone who is fully qualified to be a surgeon is going to be flipping burgers?
Please tell me you are not baffled as to why no one takes you seriosuly
Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:04 .
Guest_The Mad Hanar_*
Plaintiff wrote...
On the contrary, I'm being extremely serious. You're the ones asking me to accept absurdities, not only about fictional worlds, but now also about reality.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Srsly bro, srsly? Are you just trying to be silly right now?
Modifié par The Mad Hanar, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:05 .
Plaintiff wrote...
On the contrary, I'm being extremely serious. You're the ones asking me to accept absurdities, not only about fictional worlds, but now also about reality.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Srsly bro, srsly? Are you just trying to be silly right now?
Darth Brotarian wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
It is a known fact of our universe that people work multiple jobs. Why don't you explain to me why this particular combination is impossible, and not just merely improbable.Steelcan wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
I see no reason to dismiss it as an impossibility, however unlikely.Steelcan wrote...
Ok I'm gonna take a break from spamming for a sec to address this stupidity.
Do you think someone who is fully qualified to be a surgeon is going to be flipping burgers?
Please tell me you are not baffled as to why no one takes you seriosuly
Because a surgeon's skills make them invaluable in one field, medical, which would probably take up all their time in honing and expanding with continuous courses every few years to learn the latest medical techniques. Not wasting their time on the side working at a resturant flipping burgers.
Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:06 .
Well the scenario presented to me was someone who works in both roles, not someone who has physician training but doesn't use it.Ryzaki wrote...
Impossible no.
However whoever was doing it would probably starve to death.
Who goes to school for years on years (it's not even like it's just 4 years for a surgeon) and gets out and takes a minimum wage job? Why would you put yourself in such debt and do it? WHY. Not to mention HOW. How can they afford medschool and not have a job lined up when they come out?
Plaintiff wrote...
Well the scenario presented to me was someone who works in both roles, not someone who has physician training but doesn't use it.Ryzaki wrote...
Impossible no.
However whoever was doing it would probably starve to death.
Who goes to school for years on years (it's not even like it's just 4 years for a surgeon) and gets out and takes a minimum wage job? Why would you put yourself in such debt and do it? WHY. Not to mention HOW. How can they afford medschool and not have a job lined up when they come out?
But I can think of any number of hard-luck scenarios that would cause a medical professional (or any person in any career) to lose their job and be forced to resort to minimum wage.
Now your just making **** up. Also a carrer in the medical field is one of the most secure carrers in the world. Try again.Plaintiff wrote...
Well the scenario presented to me was someone who works in both roles, not someone who has physician training but doesn't use it.Ryzaki wrote...
Impossible no.
However whoever was doing it would probably starve to death.
Who goes to school for years on years (it's not even like it's just 4 years for a surgeon) and gets out and takes a minimum wage job? Why would you put yourself in such debt and do it? WHY. Not to mention HOW. How can they afford medschool and not have a job lined up when they come out?
But I can think of any number of hard-luck scenarios that would cause a medical professional (or any person in any career) to lose their job and be forced to resort to minimum wage.
The Mad Hanar wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
On the contrary, I'm being extremely serious. You're the ones asking me to accept absurdities, not only about fictional worlds, but now also about reality.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Srsly bro, srsly? Are you just trying to be silly right now?
It is a way to seperate the distinct classes. A mage uses magic. A warrior uses direct combat. A rogue uses stealth. They are not equal because they are different classes. If every class could do everything, there would be no point in having classes. It would be the Bioware version of Fallout. If you are arguing that the game shouldn't have classes, that would make sense. But to argue there shouldn't be any difference between classes. That doesn't make any sense from a GAME standpoint.
However, dual wielding warriors makes sense, so I approve.
Severe depression, stress, anxiety, substance abuse, alcoholism, poor investment, family issues, an accident that cost them their fine motor function skills, a series of malpractice lawsuits. A combination of any of these.Br3ad wrote...
Now your just making **** up. Also a carrer in the medical field is one of the most secure carrers in the world. Try again.Plaintiff wrote...
Well the scenario presented to me was someone who works in both roles, not someone who has physician training but doesn't use it.Ryzaki wrote...
Impossible no.
However whoever was doing it would probably starve to death.
Who goes to school for years on years (it's not even like it's just 4 years for a surgeon) and gets out and takes a minimum wage job? Why would you put yourself in such debt and do it? WHY. Not to mention HOW. How can they afford medschool and not have a job lined up when they come out?
But I can think of any number of hard-luck scenarios that would cause a medical professional (or any person in any career) to lose their job and be forced to resort to minimum wage.
Modifié par Plaintiff, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:12 .
Modifié par David7204, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:11 .
Plaintiff wrote...
But I can think of any number of hard-luck scenarios that would cause a medical professional (or any person in any career) to lose their job and be forced to resort to minimum wage.
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