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[Thunderfox]

syllogi wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Yes I know Flemeth met Maric in one of Gaider's books.
Don't read the books but read the wiki.
We don't know who fathered Flemeth's daughters, if they're even biologically her daughters, if they could be clones or from parthenogenesis, or some other process.
We don't know if Gaider will disclose this in DAI or if it will remain a mystery.
Morrigan as Allistair's half sister isn't a theory, it's speculation , which is ok.
Theories are expected to have some proof, aka the theory of relativity and I don't see any with this.
But we'll see.

In The Stolen Throne, Flemeth demands that Maric do something for her in exchange for helping him and Loghain find their way out of the Korcari Wilds.  She brings him into her home for several hours, and Loghain has to wait outside.  Afterwards, Maric does not say what happened in there, and seems a bit traumatized.

My theory is that Flemeth was making him move heavy furniture and open jars.  I mean, what's the chance that a creepy witch who is known in legends for having sex with men to bear their children would bring the future King of Ferelden into her home for several hours and want to bang him?  TOTALLY none, right???

Except, its revealed in the Comics she asked him to help Yavana awaken the Dragons, so theres a pretty big whole in that theory. Though its still possible

Back on topic. It makes sense, i could see it happening. Plus one of the very very few things we know about Vivienne is she is "Pro-Circle". So if she was born into the system it would make sense for her to have that position

[iOnlySignIn]

Hopefully a Warden father would grant her some special Magical abilities.

[Vulpe]

I doubt that. We don't have any actual proof ( at least, any that I know of ) that the kids of Grey Wardens inherit any kind of resistance or powers from their parent. Still, we don't know any confirmed case of a person that has a parent who was a Grey Warden at the moment of his/hers conceiving ,so that might prove correct ( or wrong  ).

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

This doesn't explain why she has an English accent though.

[myahele]

I always thought that she transfered to the Orlaisian circle. That'll explain her accent

[laudable11]

Nice theory. But it will never happen.

Why? Because its too awesome. That's how life works.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

myahele wrote...

I always thought that she transfered to the Orlaisian circle. That'll explain her accent

She must have transferred a long time ago if she was in line to be first enchanter at the circle though; one would presumably has to establish themselves there well in order to be offered the top job.

If it was that long so then she would at least have inflections reminiscent of an Orlesian accent.

I think the writers just didn't want too many companions to have 'foreign' accents.

[Vulpe]

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

This doesn't explain why she has an English accent though.

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

This doesn't explain why she has an English accent though.

I must admit that I don't have to much insight regarding which accent fits which nation/race. I know that Orlesians sound french, Antivans sound spanish or italian and Dalish are supposed to sound irish or welsh. That's where my knowledge stops.

I'm guessing that if we go by these rules Vivienne should sound french, no ?

If that's the case, I can think of a few reasons:

1) The voice actor we hear in the demo is a place holder and that's not her official voice 

2) Someone at BW ( I think it was eighter Mr.Gaider or Mr. Laidlaw ) stated that if they had to chose between lore and gameplay, they'll go for gameplay. Please don't ask for a link. I can't remember if it was an interview, a podcast , a comment on a topic or whatever. If I would have know where to find the statement i would have provided the link - you'll have to take my word for granted. What I understood from that statement is that if something is not a huge violation of the lore, they'll use it.

For exemple :

      We have Warden X. He's a warrior that takes his joining at the age of 25. He lives until the age of 90 without any blood mage friends help, no demons or spirits, no magical artefacts, no special heritage etc. That would be a humongous violation of the lore. Compared to that a discrepancy between the accent that a character has and the one that he/she should have is quite minor.
      So, if they like a certain voice actor in a certain role they won't shy away from providing him/her the role despite the accent.

 

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 29 septembre 2013 - 06:15 .

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

I dont think hiring a certain nationality of voice actor counts as gameplay does it?

Even if it did, why would an English accent be better for gameplay than a French accent?

And gaider tweeted that he loved Vivienne's voice; this seems to imply that it is nailed down at this point. (Besides they only showed three companions; presumably these were the three most 'locked down' companions.)

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

MasterScribe wrote...

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

I dont think hiring a certain nationality of voice actor counts as gameplay does it?

Even if it did, why would an English accent be better for gameplay than a French accent?

It's easier to understand?

I wasn't aware that anyone had any particular difficulty in understanding what Leliana or Zevran said.

I most certainly didn't.

[Angrywolves]

I thought Gaider said something in the twitter thread about loving her voice.
There seems to be some confusion about who the voice actress is.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

You seem to have missed my main point, perhaps I should have put the 'I most certainly didn't' part in brackets.

Is there an evidence to suggest that a large number of fans complained that it was often very hard to understand Zevran or leliana?

In addition to that point, if the reason is because people struggle to understand foreign accents, why on earth have they included Cassandra as a companion? She has a foreign accent.

[myahele]

Well some of the orlaisian accents excluding lelianna were not that good. Maybe its because they were fake accents and that leliannas va was a legit frenchwoman?

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Then why can't they just hire a French woman to voice Vivienne?

[Uccio]

Shees, another chosen child.

[myahele]

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

Then why can't they just hire a French woman to voice Vivienne?

I guess due to financial limitations and casting. Still, I hope they hire legit french people since fake accents are terrible...isolde anyone?

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

So now your argument has changed to the fact that they want a variety of accents? Okay I'll bite:

Why would having a French accent cause less variety than having an English accent?

If the problem really was understanding issues then they wouldn't have any foreign accents for companions at all.

If the issue was understanding then they wouldn't have cast the voice actors for leliana and Zevran as foreigners.

If the issue was understanding then why would they have any foreign accents in the game at all.

The fact of the matter is: Bioware test their games. If there was a serious problem in understanding Leiliana or Zevran, this would have been brought to their attention before release and different VAs would have been cast.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

myahele wrote...

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

Then why can't they just hire a French woman to voice Vivienne?

I guess due to financial limitations and casting. Still, I hope they hire legit french people since fake accents are terrible...isolde anyone?

Didnt David Gaider point out in a blog that a French woman actually did voice Isolde?

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Sorry mate, not in the best of moods right now

[Angrywolves]

Well who is in a spanking good mood.
Sorry Manchester.
I know how it is.
I've wondered how the voice acting is done.
I assume everyone doesn't come to Edmonton.
That some of it is recorded in England, Corienne Kempa, though native French lives in England, according to her bio. And in other countries as well.