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M-55 Argus vs N7 Valkyrie on a Human Soldier with no accuracy or stability mods


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N7didacus wrote...

AQ pls l2tripleheadshot with Argus/Incisor.

 

Make a video. 

Don't get me wrong. 

I would like to love the Argus: 

1. I love how it looks - it's awesome
2. I love how it sounds - it's badass
3. It's not Harrier
4. It actually requires discipline, not lololol dakakakakakaka. 

I'm just sad Biower left it at this state. And ALL burst fire weapons except the Valkyrie that also should be a bit better for a UR. 

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I didn't bother watching the videos.
 
Are you enjoying this attention?

 

Typical. And then you talk whatever you want and call me a ******. LOL  

BSN. 

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Don't you get sick of always using the same gun and playing the same way? I like the fact that there are dozens of weapons with different strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes you Valkyrie, sometimes you Argus, and you adjust play style accordingly. The game is still fun regardless of whether one gun does X more damage or does or doesn't need a mod. Why so much angst on the forum over which gun is "better"?

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Element 0 wrote...

N7didacus wrote...

AQ pls l2tripleheadshot with Argus/Incisor.

 

Make a video. 

Don't get me wrong. 

I would like to love the Argus: 

1. I love how it looks - it's awesome
2. I love how it sounds - it's badass
3. It's not Harrier
4. It actually requires discipline, not lololol dakakakakakaka. 

I'm just sad Biower left it at this state. And ALL burst fire weapons except the Valkyrie that also should be a bit better for a UR. 

I would, if I could record.

And I don't love it, it's just a decent gun, not more.

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OrcWhisperer wrote...

Don't you get sick of always using the same gun and playing the same way? I like the fact that there are dozens of weapons with different strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes you Valkyrie, sometimes you Argus, and you adjust play style accordingly. The game is still fun regardless of whether one gun does X more damage or does or doesn't need a mod. Why so much angst on the forum over which gun is "better"?


QFMT!!!

This guy understands it.^_^

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You used the wrong mods on the Argus. Argus without stability mod is going to suck but with it is almost as good as the Valkyrie. It is the same thing as not using a piercing mod on projectile weapons or not using smart choke on Crusader and Reegar Carbine even though these mods work great on most weapons but there are always exceptions and Argus and stability mod go together just like Claymore and smart choke do.

 

Watch the both videos. The contrast between TRASH and DECENT is jaw dropping. and chances are - people who didn't try a perfect setup right away left the Argus to collect dust forever. Whitch is a shame. 

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I was in a good mood, then I opened this thread.

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OrcWhisperer wrote...

Don't you get sick of always using the same gun and playing the same way? I like the fact that there are dozens of weapons with different strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes you Valkyrie, sometimes you Argus, and you adjust play style accordingly. The game is still fun regardless of whether one gun does X more damage or does or doesn't need a mod. Why so much angst on the forum over which gun is "better"?

 

I use almost all weapons and almost all kits. 

I like to roleplay with kits and their own race made weapons. But believe me - I've tried almost all possible combos from super OP to barely usable. 

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OrcWhisperer wrote...

Don't you get sick of always using the same gun and playing the same way? I like the fact that there are dozens of weapons with different strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes you Valkyrie, sometimes you Argus, and you adjust play style accordingly. The game is still fun regardless of whether one gun does X more damage or does or doesn't need a mod. Why so much angst on the forum over which gun is "better"?


Too sensible, conciliatory and reasonable.

BSN posting status revoked.

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I was in a good mood, then I opened this thread.

 

Not my fault. :P

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err coots, in sorry to say this, but you're more attention craving than CS.

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Tokenusername wrote...

I was in a good mood, then I opened this thread.

You should know better by now.

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Element 0 wrote...

prostheticlimbs wrote...

I didn't bother watching the videos.
 
Are you enjoying this attention?

 

Typical. And then you talk whatever you want and call me a ******. LOL  

BSN. 




Air Quotes, once again I am not attacking you. I asked a simple question and you're turning it around on me.

But then again, it seems the users of BSN have a really bad habit of doing that.

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prostheticlimbs wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

prostheticlimbs wrote...

I didn't bother watching the videos.
 
Are you enjoying this attention?

 

Typical. And then you talk whatever you want and call me a ******. LOL  

BSN. 




Air Quotes, once again I am not attacking you. I asked a simple question and you're turning it around on me.

But then again, it seems the users of BSN have a really bad habit of doing that.


I smell a silver player. 

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Element 0 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

You used the wrong mods on the Argus. Argus without stability mod is going to suck but with it is almost as good as the Valkyrie. It is the same thing as not using a piercing mod on projectile weapons or not using smart choke on Crusader and Reegar Carbine even though these mods work great on most weapons but there are always exceptions and Argus and stability mod go together just like Claymore and smart choke do.

 

Watch the both videos. The contrast between TRASH and DECENT is jaw dropping. and chances are - people who didn't try a perfect setup right away left the Argus to collect dust forever. Whitch is a shame. 


All the Argus needs is a Stabilty Damper V and Barrage Upgrade V, that is all, how difficult is it for people to figure this out.

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But you're kill the targets faster with M55

LOLBronze

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

You used the wrong mods on the Argus. Argus without stability mod is going to suck but with it is almost as good as the Valkyrie. It is the same thing as not using a piercing mod on projectile weapons or not using smart choke on Crusader and Reegar Carbine even though these mods work great on most weapons but there are always exceptions and Argus and stability mod go together just like Claymore and smart choke do.

 

Watch the both videos. The contrast between TRASH and DECENT is jaw dropping. and chances are - people who didn't try a perfect setup right away left the Argus to collect dust forever. Whitch is a shame. 


All the Argus needs is a Stabilty Damper V and Barrage Upgrade V, that is all, how difficult is it for people to figure this out.

 

Barrage upgrade means - no warfare package, no donut capacity V, no geth scanner, no pure weapons damage or extra shields or lolAC. That's a monster loss right there. 

And Argus needs the stability mod to have a similar grouping of a Valkyrie without one. 

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Valkyrie has practically perfect accuracy for >90% of the engagements in this game.

Vikruntasas is a very cool name. Sounds Qunari somehow.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 26 septembre 2013 - 09:30 .


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Valkyrie has practically perfect accuracy for >90% of the engagements in this game.

Vikruntasas is a very cool name. Sounds Qunari somehow.

 

You need to know Russian to know it's true meaning. :P

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Element 0 wrote...

Barrage upgrade means - no warfare package, no donut capacity V, no geth scanner, no pure weapons damage or extra shields or lolAC. That's a monster loss right there. 

And Argus needs the stability mod to have a similar grouping of a Valkyrie without one. 


All you really need is the Stability Mod and a general understanding of how to compensate for recoil during a 3 round burst.

Needing a single mod doesn't suddenly send a gun from decent to garbage, though.

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The Argus has awful recoil?
What a surprise.

Modifié par BioWareMod03, 26 septembre 2013 - 10:09 .


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The Argus has awful recoil?
What a fucking surprise.

 

INORITE? :blink:

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Cyonan wrote...

All you really need is the Stability Mod and a general understanding of how to compensate for recoil during a 3 round burst.

Needing a single mod doesn't suddenly send a gun from decent to garbage, though.

I never use Stability mods or equipments and I have no trouble with recoil on any other weapon.

I'm not about to make an exception for the Argus.

Well, actually there was another gun whose recoil I had trouble with. The pre-buff Hurricane. But that gun doesn't exist any more.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 26 septembre 2013 - 09:44 .


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With your arguments the Raider is complete shit too then I guess.

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Cyonan wrote...
All you really need is the Stability Mod and a general understanding of how to compensate for recoil during a 3 round burst.


IMO, this wepon was designed to be fired from hard cover. Agreed that the weapon stability mod is all you need.