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M-55 Argus vs N7 Valkyrie on a Human Soldier with no accuracy or stability mods


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#126
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It's easy to see why these two weapons were selected, they are both burst weapons and they both suck, but the argus sucks more. It's simply a response to a thread in the past trying to tell us how great the argus was.

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Will this go on long enough for me to get a popcorn gif. even though I am entering in this late or should I just forget about it?

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

I've never seen it happen while I've played, however there was a thread about some guy who switched to PC and claimed there was aim assist because he body-shot a trooper on-host with a mantis and got a headshot.  I don't think anyone came up with an adequate explanation for that.

Would like to see the video of the Mantis shot.  I would probably attempt to explain it away as the guy simply jerking the mouse and actually hitting the head when he thought he shot at the body.  Don't know, seems pretty strange to me.

Took me forever to find this but here you go.

Weird.  I don't recall ever seeing anything similar, at least not with single shot rifles.  With shotguns you would never really know, and burst weapons it would be hard to tell if you are usually aiming at the head anyway.

#129
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FasterThanFTL wrote...

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You used the wrong mods on the Argus. Argus without stability mod is going to suck but with it is almost as good as the Valkyrie. It is the same thing as not using a piercing mod on projectile weapons or not using smart choke on Crusader and Reegar Carbine even though these mods work great on most weapons but there are always exceptions and Argus and stability mod go together just like Claymore and smart choke do.

 

Watch the both videos. The contrast between TRASH and DECENT is jaw dropping. and chances are - people who didn't try a perfect setup right away left the Argus to collect dust forever. Whitch is a shame. 


All the Argus needs is a Stabilty Damper V and Barrage Upgrade V, that is all, how difficult is it for people to figure this out.


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Why do you keep comparing these two guns? My understanding of the video annomander made was that he was trying to show that the argus can be a good gun. I didn't read the whole thing but I don't think anybody said "The argus is better than the valkyrie". Yes it's not the best weapon but there are lots of weapons that are not ideal, yet I use them, even though I have better choices.
Also doesn't adrenalin rush increase your rate of fire? then why would you use it on a weapon with high recoil?

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Why do you keep comparing these two guns? My understanding of the video annomander made was that he was trying to show that the argus can be a good gun. I didn't read the whole thing but I don't think anybody said "The argus is better than the valkyrie". Yes it's not the best weapon but there are lots of weapons that are not ideal, yet I use them, even though I have better choices.
Also doesn't adrenalin rush increase your rate of fire? then why would you use it on a weapon with high recoil?

 

Adrenaline Rush does not increase ROF. Marksman does. AR increases damage. 

And the videos are to show that Argus needs 1 (and a kit with high accuracy) and very possibly 2 (if the kit has neither stability or accuracy) mandatory mods to be decent (and lose extra damage or ammo mods or different ammo consumables), when the Valkyrie needs none of that. 

In no way that's a good gun. 

Modifié par Element 0, 27 septembre 2013 - 03:36 .


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^lol.

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^lol.

 

Indeed. LOL, how have no arguments. 

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Still not page 50?

#135
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valkyrie needs everything the argus needs bar stability, so stop making it seem like such a huge gap between the two.

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Element 0 wrote...

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I don't understand why so many people on this thread are giving air quotes such a hard time about this?

He uploaded a few videos helping to keep the forum active and created a subject we can discuss and debate for a game many on here feel passionate about.

I don't get why so many would flame him for it?


Because Air Quotes has a history here and history suggests that most users don't seem to like him very much.

Idk because I'm not flaming or hating, just reacting the way I do towards everyone else.

 

LOL. Nobody likes anybody on BSN. Or the "liking" is temporary.

 


It probably is, in your case.

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Still not page 50?

 

New thread. The old one got locked. 

This should get locked too. 

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I agree with his premise, I just don't get why these turn into Epic Threads™.

Methinks that there is too much hate and venom between specific users for people to view the actual subject clearly enough to recognize the merits and tenets of both sides.

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Nahhhhh, obviously Err Coots l2p because BSNplslol

#139
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valkyrie needs everything the argus needs bar stability, so stop making it seem like such a huge gap between the two.

 

Well how about you freaking watch the video with Turian Ghost with built-in stability passives and Argus with Stability mod and see that the spread is almost the same as Valkyrie on a Human Soldier with no stability at all. 

And Valkyrie does not need a scope, it's accurate enough and the refire time allows you to adjust quickly for constant headshots.



 

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Element 0 wrote...


LOL. Nobody likes anybody on BSN. Or the "liking" is temporary.



Not true! I like all of you!

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Adragalus wrote...

I agree with his premise, I just don't get why these turn into Epic Threads™.

Methinks that there is too much hate and venom between specific users for people to view the actual subject clearly enough to recognize the merits and tenets of both sides.

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Nahhhhh, obviously Err Coots l2p because BSNplslol

 

:lol: 

Ain't that the truth. 

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dumdum2 wrote...

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LOL. Nobody likes anybody on BSN. Or the "liking" is temporary.



Not true! I like all of you!

 

:mellow: 

[ X ] 

For ruining the spirit of BSN. 

#143
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Element 0 wrote...

prostheticlimbs wrote...

dava6711 wrote...

I don't understand why so many people on this thread are giving air quotes such a hard time about this?

He uploaded a few videos helping to keep the forum active and created a subject we can discuss and debate for a game many on here feel passionate about.

I don't get why so many would flame him for it?


Because Air Quotes has a history here and history suggests that most users don't seem to like him very much.

Idk because I'm not flaming or hating, just reacting the way I do towards everyone else.

 

LOL. Nobody likes anybody on BSN. Or the "liking" is temporary.

 

 Actually, nearly everybody likes me.  Even the mods. Whereas just about everybody thinks you should die in a fucking fire.

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 11 octobre 2013 - 12:08 .


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Element 0 wrote...

N7didacus wrote...

Still not page 50?

 

New thread. The old one got locked. 

This should get locked too. 

I know. 

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

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prostheticlimbs wrote...

dava6711 wrote...

I don't understand why so many people on this thread are giving air quotes such a hard time about this?

He uploaded a few videos helping to keep the forum active and created a subject we can discuss and debate for a game many on here feel passionate about.

I don't get why so many would flame him for it?


Because Air Quotes has a history here and history suggests that most users don't seem to like him very much.

Idk because I'm not flaming or hating, just reacting the way I do towards everyone else.

 

LOL. Nobody likes anybody on BSN. Or the "liking" is temporary.

 

 Actually, nearly everybody likes me.  Even the mods.

 

Image IPB pls.

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dumdum2 wrote...

Element 0 wrote...


LOL. Nobody likes anybody on BSN. Or the "liking" is temporary.



Not true! I like all of you!

GPS sucks. :whistle:

#147
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prostheticlimbs wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

LOL. Nobody likes anybody on BSN. Or the "liking" is temporary.

 


It probably is, in your case.

Well err kwotez people do like eachother on BSN, as a matter of fact nearly all of my mates that I play with/talk to, I met on BSN and became friends with them there. I guess that why you think nobody likes anybody on BSN is because no one likes YOU on BSN because you act like an ignorant moron who is far too thick skulled to admit that he is completely wrong even after EVERYONE in the thread tells you that you are wrong and also you challenge people who you are blatantly jealous of with 0 evidence just because they get more attention than you (Sirian, Annomander and others) sure you have been right on some hackusations, but they were done out of pure jealousy with little to no evidence and you got lucky. Metaphorically speaking it's the same as doing something with a low chance of success countless times to improve your chances of getting it right. In other words, getting lucky. So for the sake of yourself and everyone on BSN, stop being such a stuck-up moron.

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You do take weapon mods to the next level sensei
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in case anyone don't know what happen :o
there is a heavy barrel which is on pistol, not assault rifle

but i agree with him that argus must needs a staibility damper V
barrage is optional for me
but if you get barrage V . even you are not turian soldier or destroyer
it can make 3 shot burst fire extremely accurate

for me cerberus harrier without an ammo mod is also suck

Modifié par IanLai, 27 septembre 2013 - 04:06 .


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Not Paynezz wrote...

prostheticlimbs wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

LOL. Nobody likes anybody on BSN. Or the "liking" is temporary.

 


It probably is, in your case.

Well err kwotez people do like eachother on BSN, as a matter of fact nearly all of my mates that I play with/talk to, I met on BSN and became friends with them there. I guess that why you think nobody likes anybody on BSN is because no one likes YOU on BSN because you act like an ignorant moron who is far too thick skulled to admit that he is completely wrong even after EVERYONE in the thread tells you that you are wrong and also you challenge people who you are blatantly jealous of with 0 evidence just because they get more attention than you (Sirian, Annomander and others) sure you have been right on some hackusations, but they were done out of pure jealousy with little to no evidence and you got lucky. Metaphorically speaking it's the same as doing something with a low chance of success countless times to improve your chances of getting it right. In other words, getting lucky. So for the sake of yourself and everyone on BSN, stop being such a stuck-up moron.

 

Go post some porn. That's all you can do. 

#150
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Adrenaline Rush does not increase ROF. Marksman does. AR increases damage. 



Actually I'm pretty sure it gives a slight boost to ROF.