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It would be better to skip Shadow Strike on the N7 Shadow!

Débuté par Red Panda , sept. 26 2013 10:34

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#76
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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 12:47

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Exactly.

46565 is the best Shadow build.

Movement Speed + Damage Cloak >>>> any Melee gimmick.

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 12:54

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Exactly.

46565 is the best Shadow build.

Movement Speed + Damage Cloak >>>> any Melee gimmick.

53666 is the best Shadow build.

Shadow Strike + Damage Cloak>>>>any Weapon gimmick.

Modifié par Tokenusername, 27 septembre 2013 - 12:55 .

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 12:57

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dr_random wrote...

I soloed Gold with a SS Shadow and I can tell you I made them have no clue where I really was. It's all about cloaking.


Wait, so now you're saying I have to spec into cloak too??  Gawd, I'm so sick of you high-horse BSNers and your minmax builds.  

#79
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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 01:33

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I don't have the heart to ditch SS even though the constant annoyances with it has be close to screams at times. I love the one where it teleports you and then leaves you standing in front of the target without striking. Awesome! It's like heyyy wassup--ouch.

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 01:43

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Shadow without SS is a Slayer with a TC and without palm blaster.

??

I've no idea why I would play either. Shadow would be a very boring class without SS.

Modifié par Heldarion, 27 septembre 2013 - 01:43 .

#81
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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 01:46

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Element 0 wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Now, I'm going to get hate for this, but melee combat is kind of nerfing oneself when one could use a far better weapon like the venom

Yes you are. Now take your self-starring thread and go home.

 

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I hate everyone's threads, except my own. <_<


Be honest.  You kind of hate your own threads, too.

#82
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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 01:48

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Shadow Strike is her signature attack. She's no shadow without it. Tact. Cloak does not count... Electric slash is...meh....

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 01:53

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6/3/6/5/6 is the best build!

Nah, just kidding. It is just the build I use. Full melee & getting the most damage out of SS.

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 01:54

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Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Exactly.

46565 is the best Shadow build.

Movement Speed + Damage Cloak >>>> any Melee gimmick.

53666 is the best Shadow build.

Shadow Strike + Damage Cloak >>>> any Weapon gimmick.

Raider.

Your argument is now invalid.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 27 septembre 2013 - 01:54 .

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 01:55

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Exactly.

46565 is the best Shadow build.

Movement Speed + Damage Cloak >>>> any Melee gimmick.

53666 is the best Shadow build.

Shadow Strike + Damage Cloak >>>> any Weapon gimmick.

Raider.

Your argument is now invalid.

Omni-blade.

Your argument is now invalid.

#86
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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 02:03

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Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Exactly.

46565 is the best Shadow build.

Movement Speed + Damage Cloak >>>> any Melee gimmick.

53666 is the best Shadow build.

Shadow Strike + Damage Cloak >>>> any Weapon gimmick.

Raider.

Your argument is now invalid.

Omni-blade.

Your argument is now invalid.

Which takes longer - to cast 1 Shadow Strike, or to fire 3 Raider shots?

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 02:14

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Which takes longer - to cast 1 Shadow Strike, or to fire 3 Raider shots?


1 Shadow Strike is moar fun and stylish. :ph34r:

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 02:16

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Exactly.

46565 is the best Shadow build.

Movement Speed + Damage Cloak >>>> any Melee gimmick.

53666 is the best Shadow build.

Shadow Strike + Damage Cloak >>>> any Weapon gimmick.

Raider.

Your argument is now invalid.

Omni-blade.

Your argument is now invalid.

Which takes longer - to cast 1 Shadow Strike, or to fire 3 Raider shots?

It's a lot more fun to play a melee Shadow than a weapons Shadow. If I want to use the Raider, I have the GI or Batbrawler for that. Dat sword is just to awesome to not use. :wub:

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 02:18

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Zjarcal wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Which takes longer - to cast 1 Shadow Strike, or to fire 3 Raider shots?

1 Shadow Strike is moar fun and stylish. :ph34r:

Yes. That's why I use it - once every one or two waves. :ph34r:

#90
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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 02:22

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5/6/6/3/6 works for me. I mostly use SS for it's utility: getting around the map, restoring shields, positioning myself behind enemies, etc. I'd never skip it but you have to know when and when not to use it. Otherwise you end up dying during the animation.

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 02:22

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Raider.

Your argument is now invalid.

Omni-blade.

Your argument is now invalid.

Which takes longer - to cast 1 Shadow Strike, or to fire 3 Raider shots?

It's a lot more fun to play a melee Shadow than a weapons Shadow. If I want to use the Raider, I have the GI or Batbrawler for that. Dat sword is just to awesome to not use. :wub:

You can melee and have fun with it without speccing into melee.

Like I said, I use a 46565 build with a little bit of everything - SS, ES, but mostly shotgun. 
http://kalence.drupa...35!!..J5!50BE7G

But if I want to go more melee with her I can switch to an omniblade just as well. It's hardly any less effective.

I find speccing her this way to be more versatile - I don't have to respec or use too many equipments if I wish to bring her to Platinum.

Most importantly I don't think the +20% Movement Speed is even up for debate. If it works wonders on the Drells, Geth, and AIU it will work just as well on the Shadow. And it does.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:29 .

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 02:35

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Exactly.

46565 is the best Shadow build.

Movement Speed + Damage Cloak >>>> any Melee gimmick.

53666 is the best Shadow build.

Shadow Strike + Damage Cloak >>>> any Weapon gimmick.

Raider.

Your argument is now invalid.

Omni-blade.

Your argument is now invalid.

Which takes longer - to cast 1 Shadow Strike, or to fire 3 Raider shots?

Raider actually, because you have to close the distance.

#93
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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 02:44

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

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Raider.

Your argument is now invalid.

Omni-blade.

Your argument is now invalid.

Which takes longer - to cast 1 Shadow Strike, or to fire 3 Raider shots?

Raider actually, because you have to close the distance.

Yeah right. Because most enemies in this game spawn beyond Raider range at unpredictable locations and actively try to run away from you.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:47 .

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 02:54

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Raider.

Your argument is now invalid.

Omni-blade.

Your argument is now invalid.

Which takes longer - to cast 1 Shadow Strike, or to fire 3 Raider shots?

Raider actually, because you have to close the distance.

Yeah right. Because most enemies in this game spawn beyond Raider range at unpredictable locations and actively try to run away from you.

They do actually.

#95
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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 03:16

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I like the Piranha with Omni-Blade and Smart Choke. Sometimes I will bring the Talon instead.

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 04:32

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Exactly.

46565 is the best Shadow build.

Movement Speed + Damage Cloak >>>> any Melee gimmick.

53666 is the best Shadow build.

Shadow Strike + Damage Cloak >>>> any Weapon gimmick.

Raider.

Your argument is now invalid.

Omni-blade.

Your argument is now invalid.

Which takes longer - to cast 1 Shadow Strike, or to fire 3 Raider shots?


Why not both?

Also, this debate depends on the enemies. It's much easier to kill Phantoms with SS than with the Raider. On the other hand, you can;t SS the Atlas and you can hit the Atlas from a fair distance even with the Raider.

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 04:43

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

You can melee and have fun with it without speccing into melee.

Like I said, I use a 46565 build with a little bit of everything - SS, ES, but mostly shotgun. 
http://kalence.drupa...35!!..J5!50BE7G

But if I want to go more melee with her I can switch to an omniblade just as well. It's hardly any less effective.

I find speccing her this way to be more versatile - I don't have to respec or use too many equipments if I wish to bring her to Platinum.

Most importantly I don't think the +20% Movement Speed is even up for debate. If it works wonders on the Drells, Geth, and AIU it will work just as well on the Shadow. And it does.

To each their own. I like my Shadow as a full melee build, running around slicing heads off. It's a nice change of pace from all the other infiltrators which are mostly weapons platforms.

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 04:44

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No Shadow Strike? But why would I play the kit?

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 04:53

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Curunen wrote...

^Yes it is a fair point on platinum, where you're better off with ES, weapons and tech bursts. SS build is much harder and will resort to a lot of shooting; not bad, but not optimal for the boss spam.

But every optimum character build on platinum boils down to one thing - as much dps on as many targets as possible, so many fun (mostly melee) builds that are viable on gold get tossed aside on platinum.


I'd argue SS is just as useful if not more so than ES on Platinum. The notion that Platinum has too many bosses for SS to be an effective power is false. For every two bosses that generally appear in each Platinum wave, there are 6 other units that SS can potentially bring down with one hit invidividually.

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Posté 27 septembre 2013 - 05:02

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Akire wrote...

I like the Piranha with Omni-Blade and Smart Choke. Sometimes I will bring the Talon instead.


Talon with HB, mellee amp  AP ammo for those guardians that magically turn on you regardless of whether you cloak from  cover
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