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[Bionuts]

movieguyabw wrote...

Well, seeing as we're talking about a work of fiction, you certainly can save everyone in a "no-win" situation.  It's actually done quite often with characters like the Doctor, Superman, and Batman.  Hell, the Kobayashi maru test from Star Trek - which is designed specifically to be a no-win scenario has been beaten a couple of times, one of them by Kirk who has the famous quote about not believing in a "no-win" scenario.


Key here is we're talking about fictional heroes.    In the real world, sure, you can't save everyone in a "no win" scenario.  But in a situation like that would you prefer someone who just nonchalantly makes the call to sacrifice a couple hundred people to save a couple thousand; or someone who is like 'do everything you can to save everyone involved'.  Sure, you might not save everyone.  But who knows, you might only lose 50 people, as opposed to the 100 you just wrote off as expendable, collateral damage.  

Edit: but yeah, anyway, back on topic -  anyone have a suggestion for a good female Dalish name?  I'm terrible with naming my characters  lol

They're not actual "no-win" scenarios. It's just hyperbole to show the gravity of the situation. A "no-win" situation is one where you can't save everyone. If you did, then it wouldn't be a "no-win" situation. Doesn't matter, though.

If "doing anything to save everyone" takes up too much time and resources, then it is a waste.

One part of being a hero is becoming a monster. You sacrifice your morals, mind, and body to complete your goal.

Batman is not a hero. He's a self-righteous idiot who cares more about his own moral code than the lives of people he's supposed to care about.

[Cainhurst Crow]

A pacifist wanderer, looking to help those in need and willing to punish the wicked who threaten them. Won't attack them unless he needs to, will try to be upbeat and cheery but with the potential for a darker streak if someone manages to hit the right buttons with him.

Essentially? Almost every anime protagonist from almost every action mange/anime there's ever been.

[myahele]

Will be based on my female Surana: Taken from at a very young age from the Denerim alienage, so not much memories there. Somewhat naive and idealistic due to the fact that she was the student of Irving, so she was never harrassed by the Templars and was respected amongst the apprentices + Cullen liked her.

Diplomatic, but believes in just applied equally to all. Will be pro-circle or an establishment that teaches mages to control their abilities without oppression

[Azaron Nightblade]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Essentially? Almost every anime protagonist from almost every action mange/anime there's ever been.

Shouldn't he be a young hotshot trying to proof himself then? And that has some rivalry going with his best friend, where beating each other up repeatedly only strengthens the bonds of their friendship? :happy:

[Bionuts]

Azaron Nightblade wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Essentially? Almost every anime protagonist from almost every action mange/anime there's ever been.

Shouldn't he be a young hotshot trying to proof himself then? And that has some rivalry going with his best friend, where beating each other up repeatedly only strengthens the bonds of their friendship? :happy:

And the friend eventually admits the main character is better.

[Gwydden]

I prefer improvisation. I know I'll play a human, but I'll have to say what the human background implies and then see if the character naturally comes to me. It worked for Origins, at least.

Modifié par Gwydden, 27 septembre 2013 - 05:25 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Ah the change of the generations, I was thinking more of the best in the world guy, who for reasons shrouded in mystery, decided to give up everything and go around righting wrongs and such. Back when rurouni kenshin and trigun were the norm.

[Sol Downer]

An aging father who took to drink to cope with his collapsing life. He'll be a masochist who learned to take pain in stride because of what he's lost, but he recently started to get back in to the game and fight back. An experienced man who knows what's what in the world, but with more than enough space to develop from beginning to the end.

[Bionuts]

Ultimashade wrote...

An aging father who took to drink to cope with his collapsing life. He'll be a masochist who learned to take pain in stride because of what he's lost, but he recently started to get back in to the game and fight back. An experienced man who knows what's what in the world, but with more than enough space to develop from beginning to the end.

Damn good backstory,

[LobselVith8]

I'm not going to base the Inquisitor on anyone; I prefer original creations. I molded my Surana Warden on how I imagined an elven mage would react to Thedas, and I came up with an atheist who was stolen from his family in the Denerim Alienage by the Chantry when it was discovered that he possessed magical abilities. A young prodigy of Irving's who condemned the Chantry controlled Circles, and who despised the templar incursion into the Dales due to religious differences (which marked his disbelief in the Maker). Someone who firmly believed in the Wardens and could be pragmatic about choices that could help end the threat of the darkspawn (like Avernus and the Anvil of the Void), but who was also empathetic. The emancipation of the Circle of Magi was also something he believed in strongly, as someone who had to endure life as a Circle mage.

My Inquisitor will be Dalish mage; a maleficar in the eyes of the Chantry and Andrastian society. I'm looking to make him distinct from my Hero of Ferelden and the apostate Champion of Kirkwall; more militant. I think he would focus on stopping the veil tear to protect the People from the demonic invasion of Thedas. Someone who believes in the Creators, and sees the denizens of the Fade as spirits, rather than Spirits and Demons who are the First Children of the Maker like Andrastians do. I imagine he'll hate the Chantry and the Order of Templars, but I'm not sure how he will react to the elves of the Alienage or the newly emancipated Circles. I suppose I'll have to see where the character takes me in the narrative.

[Bionuts]

Could be wrong, but it seems like you're simply projecting yourself into each character.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

 I'll base my first character on myself, a amoral psychopath :innocent:

[Cainhurst Crow]

A lot of people seem to do that, makes me feel kinda all by myself with my viewing of my characters as separate beings and trying not to put too much of myself in any of them.

[Sol Downer]

Bionuts wrote...

Ultimashade wrote...

An aging father who took to drink to cope with his collapsing life. He'll be a masochist who learned to take pain in stride because of what he's lost, but he recently started to get back in to the game and fight back. An experienced man who knows what's what in the world, but with more than enough space to develop from beginning to the end.

Damn good backstory,

Thanks, I based him off of an original character of mine called Christopher Lamont. I originally wondered how a man would react when he's lost everything and more, only to have just one chance to get it all back. He was purely human, so with will and physical ability being his only strength, he was never able to reach that goal...and obviously unable to overcome physical, mental, and emotional limits. It gave him an air of cynicism, but a desire to at least live happily under his own terms. I think that's what makes him more human considering that he's not the type of hero who's always happy and fighting for what's right, or grungy and emotional about every damn thing. He's a realist in the strictest of terms.

[LobselVith8]

Bionuts wrote...

Could be wrong, but it seems like you're simply projecting yourself into each character.

They don't seem similar to me, and I I try to make them distinct. My Surana Warden killed the Messenger and the Architect because he didn't think intelligent darkspawn were worth the risk, while apostate Hawke initially agreed with using Corypheus to stop the Blights. My Surana Warden encouraged Alistair and Leliana to be better people by hardening their personality, while apostate Hawke accepted his companions, for the most part. My Surana Warden was an atheist, while Hawke was religiously Andrastian. They aren't the same, and I don't see my Dalish Inquisitor being a carbon copy of either of my former protagonists.

[Bionuts]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

A lot of people seem to do that, makes me feel kinda all by myself with my viewing of my characters as separate beings and trying not to put too much of myself in any of them.

I cannot roleplay as myself in video games. It feels too personal.

I love creating different stories within the DAU. Funny enough, Origins provides ample ammunition to do so.

[maliluka]

Bionuts wrote...

Could be wrong, but it seems like you're simply projecting yourself into each character.

I think we all do to some degree...it may even be the small the things. For example I am a naturally sarcastic person in life and generally play my characters that way. That doesnt mean they wont turn out to be a murderous sarcastic person, or do gooder sarcastic person, or fend for your self I dont have time for your stupidity sarcastic person..... But never the less, the snarkyness is there... Its a gift.:innocent:

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Bionuts wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

A lot of people seem to do that, makes me feel kinda all by myself with my viewing of my characters as separate beings and trying not to put too much of myself in any of them.

I cannot roleplay as myself in video games. It feels too personal.

I love creating different stories within the DAU. Funny enough, Origins provides ample ammunition to do so.

I find self-projecting myself into a character rather dull. Why would I try to play the person I've been for 28 years when I can step into the shoes of a different person for a bit each game?

[Milan92]

I don't create characters after me. I do most of the time make decisions with them that I would do as well in real life.

[happy_daiz]

I really haven't thought about it. Usually that stuff just happens organically; although I do tend to lean paragon in first playthroughs, always.

I don't really rp anything. As Milan said, I also tend to make decisions similar to what I'd do IRL.

Female rogue of some sort, with dark hair. That's about all I know at this point.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 27 septembre 2013 - 06:29 .

[Mr Fixit]

Milan92 wrote...

I don't create characters after me. I do most of the time make decisions with them that I would do as well in real life.

Decisions you'd do in real life or decisions you like to think you'd do in real life? An irrelevant question in the grand scheme of things, but one I'd like to know the answer to nonetheless.

Modifié par Mr Fixit, 27 septembre 2013 - 06:36 .

[Bionuts]

My characters never try to be ruthless or paragon.

They all have their own moral code.

Some of my "paragon" characters sacrificed Alistair for Anora.

Some of my "ruthless" character rejected the Anvil.

It was never about being "good" or "evil". They were simply making decisions based on what they personally felt about the situation.

Modifié par Bionuts, 27 septembre 2013 - 06:38 .

[Milan92]

Mr Fixit wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

I don't create characters after me. I do most of the time make decisions with them that I would do as well in real life.

Decisions you'd do in real life or decisions you like to think you'd do in real life? An irrelevant question in the grand scheme of things, but one I'd like to know the answer to nonetheless.

Decisions I'd like to think I do in real life.... I think  

[Mr Fixit]

Milan92 wrote...

Mr Fixit wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

I don't create characters after me. I do most of the time make decisions with them that I would do as well in real life.

Decisions you'd do in real life or decisions you like to think you'd do in real life? An irrelevant question in the grand scheme of things, but one I'd like to know the answer to nonetheless.

Decisions I'd like to think I do in real life.... I think  

Heh. My younger sister plays Dragon Age generally picking "good" options because "that's what she'd do in RL". To which my reply would be: "Not to rain on your parade, but you ain't no saint, sis."

Fortunately for her, I wasn't going to free her from her illusions Anthony Hopkins style. That would be too much, even coming from me.

Modifié par Mr Fixit, 27 septembre 2013 - 06:47 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I was disappointed that Hawke's story was ended on a cliffhanger and any possible resolution was cancelled, so I think my first Inquisitor will probably be a loose tribute to my first Hawke in some way. My first player characters in RPGs tend to be the most similar to myself in some way or other and so my first Hawke was a moderate who favored compromise. My first Inquisitor will probably be sort of like that, but will have evolved along the same lines as my Hawkie would have after Anders destroyed the Chantry. As such I imagine I'll create him as a slightly harsher than most PCs as he becomes dedicated to stopping the Mage rebellion.