Darth Brotarian wrote...
If all the decisions are suddenly based on qualifications, than whats to stop non-mages from getting into positions of power again? They'd have just as much a chance as mages would in getting elected or being appointed
Which would mean little or nothing if mages already dominate the infrastructure and are, effectively, Thedas nuclear energy.
Who truly runs Antiva? The Royal Family or the Merchant Princes?
But that's not the way it's done in thedas, everything is run by bloodlines, whose your father and whose your mother play a much bigger role in getting into positions of power than any form of actual intellectual or presuasive ability. Than you have the unfair economic hurdles that prevent many others from ever having a chance in the first place because they couldn't afford to pay a man to teach their children useful skills in ruling. And all of that is meaningless since a person
like loghain was able to essentially stage a coup and take control of fereldan with ease, so where is this place that isn't ruled by the strong again?
The fact that Loghain was able to ascend from peasantry to fathering a queen illustrates how Ferelden will give more opportunities to their lowest social classes than Tevinter. When was the last non-magical Archon?
But, you are right. Thedas is very much a medieval setting which doesn't mean that the elitism of the current system merits suddenly introducing yet another class of people with more means than your average peasant.
You keep changing the goal post, saying mages can't ever be free since they'll be better than otherpeople. But than you go around and change it to some fake thedas were we aren't operating on medievil practices but living in a
modern society that judges ability before birthright.
I used the accomplishments of our own societies to demonstrate how the lack of magic wouldn't, necessarely cause stagnation and to show that rights of the nobles can be overcome. The rights of the people who can touch you and make you explode from the inside out...not so much.
Take into account that you also used rather modern terms such as "engineer".
Normal people have just as much likelihood to try and take over
through non-democratic or just ways as mages would, and in a large enough number, would succeed.
In Orlais, the streets are illuminated through glow lamps that the Circle of Magi produces. This is an example of magic becoming the Thedosian equivalent of electricity. Even if we were to rebel against our respective governments, I dare say one thing no one would even consider getting rid of would be electricity.
So, how would normal people succeed?
Just because we've outgrown it doesn';t mean thedas hasn't. And just because mages would have a chance at political power, doesn't mean that things wouldn't change as they have today.
The fact that we have proves that it can be done. On the other, magic will never cease to be an advantage so how could a society where the infrastructure is entirely dependant on magic change?
You are ignoring the fact that thedas isn't earth, and are living a pipe dream that thedas is on the clasp of some great renisance where they stop believing in birthright positions of power and somehow rapidly modernize,
I never said that. Only that we have proved it is possible.
It is not possible with magic unless the Circle system is employed.
and that mages are just holding up the process.
Well, we already have examples of magic being used as electricity. Therefore, there is no incentive to actually create electricity; on the other hand, qunari and dwarves have gunpowder and clocks for instances.
I do believe reliance on magic has halted the technological progress of Thedas.
Modifié par MisterJB, 28 septembre 2013 - 10:37 .
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