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[BlueMagitek]

Br3ad wrote...

True. This I cannot deny. Of course said games are about taking over usually, so it's expected. Here we are trying to protect everyone. 

In that case, a number of RPGs usually have most factions ignoring, if not hostile, to you as you and your group tries to save the world.

In Alpha Protocol, you can end up with everyone on you. ~_^

[LobselVith8]

David7204 wrote...

Since a game needs enemies, I'm guessing most groups will see it pretty negatively.

Well, I think the Inquisitor might make enemies by siding with one group over the other, like making enemies out of the templars by siding with the mages, or making an enemy out of the Anderfels King by siding with the First Warden. It's also said the Inquisition is created in opposition to the Chantry, so I think they could be a potential nemesis in some respects, especially with a Dalish or Kossith Inquisitior at the helm of the organization.

[Laughing_Man]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

True. This I cannot deny. Of course said games are about taking over usually, so it's expected. Here we are trying to protect everyone. 

In that case, a number of RPGs usually have most factions ignoring, if not hostile, to you as you and your group tries to save the world.

In Alpha Protocol, you can end up with everyone on you. ~_^

Alpha Protcol shouldn't be used as an example for what happens in a video game.
Nor any other game that manages to make most players quit within the first 5 minutes of playtime.

[Laughing_Man]

LobselVith8 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Since a game needs enemies, I'm guessing most groups will see it pretty negatively.

Well, I think the Inquisitor might make enemies by siding with one group over the other, like making enemies out of the templars by siding with the mages, or making an enemy out of the Anderfels King by siding with the First Warden. It's also said the Inquisition is created in opposition to the Chantry, so I think they could be a potential nemesis in some respects, especially with a Dalish or Kossith Inquisitior at the helm of the organization.

The inqusition is in opposition to the chantry? Do you have a source for that?

And while choosing from different races is generally a good thing in RPG's, so far I can't think of any logical explanation that will make sense of an Elf or a Qunari as an inquisitor.

[In Exile]

Given that DAI seems to want to be a lot like DAO, I'm guessing functionally the Inquisition will be a lot like the GWs (at least by the end of game), with the actual perception of different groups varying more in regards to who the Inquisitor is (e.g. Dalish not so keen with the human, humans not so keen with Qunari or elf).

[Danny Boy 7]

I think at the start everyone will generally ignore you. We might only have our party and a hand full of Cassandra's underlings so we'll be easy to ignore at first. The first "act" would be us gathering strength, assets, etc until we have a working army or we make a powerful ally, Celene, Gaspard, Fiona or whoever.

At that time everyone would either start directly fighting us or kissing our ass. We beat them into submission and then confront the big bad.

So we'd probably start off against the Red Templars or Venatori who would act as the "face" of the enemy, then move onto the groups afraid we might cause issues, followed by the big names that we ****** off.

[Br3admax]

They aren't form in opposition to the Chantry. The Inquisition is reformed because the Inquisition thinks that the Chantry has failed in protecting Thedas. Considering that neither of the warring sides are a part of the Chantry any longer, your theory holds no water.

[Br3admax]

There's a difference between an opposition to them and an opposition to there will. We aren't, for instance, going to start **** slapping priests.

[Vicious]

Well, for starters, The Inquisition is the original proto-Templar organization, back when the veil was pretty much nonexistent and Abominations and Demons reigned unupposed.

Certainly the Chantry will try to extend some influence over the Inquisition - they've lost control of the Templars and the Circle (and Seekers) after all... but ultimately without them they are toothless. They will likely be grudging allies in the hopes they can eventually assume direct control™ at some point.

The Templars? Well they're split. Some of the Thrask-types (the extreme minority) will see the Inquisition as a way to get back to the original purpose of the Templars. Others will either want to keep things the way they were or exterminate Mages, period.

Ditto for Mages. Some will realize that their rebellion is rapidly diminishing the veil and causing destruction and will want to try to work with non-mages in the hopes of minimizing the damage and starting anew without circles or the mistreatment and mass slaughters they suffered from the templars in the last two years before the game starts. (circles annulled left and right, many without reason at all, such as the Rivaini circle.) Others will have those horrors fresh in their mind and refuse to submit to an organization again. Then there's the abominations who will try to destroy the Inquisition from the inside. Then there's the Mages who think they should rule everything.

Grey Wardens? A wild card, though i'm sure they realize that this war benefits no one except Demons, i suspect they will likely have their hands full.


As for races, EVERY race has a stake in this. Demons are the enemies of all who live, and unlike the Darkspawn, they aren't a localized threat that pops up every so often, demons are everywhere all the time.

Since Inquisition means no more templars, mages, or circles, but instead one organization dedicated to facing the ever-present threat together, it makes sense that they'd accept all shapes sizes and races, since there's this big hole in the veil that kinda gets people's attention.

Modifié par Vicious, 29 septembre 2013 - 05:07 .

[Swoopdogg]

"Hey, guys so I think we need an Inquisition."

"Alright, so what's the plan?"

"Well, we don't quite have one yet. But we do have an Inquisitor."

"Well that's a start. Can we see him?"

"Yep, he's right here. His name's Paul."

"The Qunari?"

"Yep. Paul."

"You do realize he has the blood of his enemies painted on his face, correct?"

"And...?"

"That seems a bit too... Heathen for an Inquisitor."

"Fine, fine. Alright how about this one?"

"The elf?"

"Yep, Tal'reyan'den'hareth-sen."

"He's literally aiming his bow right at me."

"He does that sometimes."

"Does he hate humans?"

"Nah, he's cool."

"He just nodded his head and licked his lips."

"Maker, fine. This one?"

"The dwarf?"

"Yep, Ogrhen."

[Vicious]

MasterScribe wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

There's a difference between an opposition to them and an opposition to there will. We aren't, for instance, going to start **** slapping priests.

The Chantry is a religious organization. If you're opposed to its will (desires, wishes, choices, requests, commands, etc.), then you're opposed to the organization.

The problem is that the Chantry wants to get back to the status quo... That ain't gonna happen.

[Br3admax]

MasterScribe wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

There's a difference between an opposition to them and an opposition to there will. We aren't, for instance, going to start **** slapping priests.

The Chantry is a religious organization. If the Inquisition is opposed to its will (desires, wishes, choices, requests, commands, etc.), then it's opposed to the Chantry itself.

Until the Chantry recognizes the Inquisition's authority, presumably.

Which it will. Then we'll fly up to the heavens on the back of Flemeth and sew the Veil Tear back up, and the LI will make out with you the entire time. It has been fortold. 

[Angrywolves]

Nothing like an argument .
Don't know if our Inquisitor will oppose the chantry.
Each player will have to decide who to support and who to oppose.
The Red Templars are apparently insane, so they're enemies by default .
Suspect the Inquisitor's actions will determine who the other enemies are.

[Wulfram]

Initially most people would probably be pretty sceptical, but have more to worry about than doing anything about a small band of crazies with a castle. Then as you get more important they'll judge you by your actions.

[Potato Cat]

I'm still hoping for Red Templars to be the result of the Inquisition siding with mages and the templars feeling forced to use the stuff to have a hope of stopping them, and us of course.

[Iakus]

Well, apparantly, the original Inquisition managed to p*ss off just about everyone since they didn't favor any particular group.

See no reason whay that particular outcome isn't possible here as well