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[Tokenusername]

Good job asking for people's opinions and then telling them they're wrong when you disagree.

What are you Err Coots now?

[MaxShine]

jamesbrown3 wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Also, I don't like Lancer on Turian Soldier.

Come at me BSN.

Its not very smart to use the lancer on him.  the way marksmen works and all.  its better to use it on the Sentinel, where more power usage helps with the cool-down on the lancer lol.

but I do agree with you, the FQE is great with it.

QTF

To use the Lancer effectively the player has to be able to compensate for the recoil to make the bullets go into the same place. The Lancer should not be fired from the hip, the accuracy is terrible, you can only do this vs a Brute or an Atlas. When zoomed in the accuracy is a lot better.

[RedJohn]

Tokenusername wrote...

Good job asking for people's opinions and then telling them they're wrong when you disagree.

What are you Err Coots now?

Opinions and facts are not the same.

For example I understand if you tell me that you like Lancer more than Typhoon because that's your opinion, but don't say it is better than Typhoon because that's not true.

XFG-65 wrote...

For me, it's the best assault rifle. I don't like using the particle rifle on anything besides the destoryer or juggernaut. The harrier is kind of annoying because of the whole ammo issue. Have fun using the harrier on dagger hazard/condor/vancouver/glacier.

Wat?

[Argent Xero]

Tokenusername wrote...

Good job asking for people's opinions and then telling them they're wrong when you disagree.

What are you Err Coots now?

No, he's just another blip.

[Malanek]

The gun is ok. It doesn't really have a niche though so you always know you are using a suboptimal weapon. Between the CSMG, Wraith, PPR and Harrier anything you want it for is done better by something else.

[Supreme Leech]

RedJohn wrote...

Wat?

What, so I don't even get a '65 WAT' meme? Disappointed.

[Tokenusername]

RedJohn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Good job asking for people's opinions and then telling them they're wrong when you disagree.

What are you Err Coots now?

Opinions and facts are not the same.

For example I understand if you tell me that you like Lancer more than Typhoon because that's your opinion, but don't say it is better than Typhoon because that's not true.

Tell me your deeps math, ThreadJohn.

[Argent Xero]

I don't really use it, I use it on the Turian Havoc but I don't even use him much.

[holdenagincourt]

Accuracy issues. I suppose if you love standing in hard cover whenever you want to shoot something more than 15 meters away without wasting a third of your shavings, the Lancer would be amazing.

Maybe if I get it to VIII, IX and X one day the wasted ammo wouldn't be as much of an issue, because the magazine size would be big enough. Until then I'll just use CSMG.

[RedJohn]

Tokenusername wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Good job asking for people's opinions and then telling them they're wrong when you disagree.

What are you Err Coots now?

Opinions and facts are not the same.

For example I understand if you tell me that you like Lancer more than Typhoon because that's your opinion, but don't say it is better than Typhoon because that's not true.

Tell me your deeps math, ThreadJohn.

Typhoon being better than Lancer is something that doesn't need to be overproven. 


Now, if someone really believe that Lancer is better than Typhoon they should really work in prove it.

[Evil]

RedJohn wrote...

For example I understand if you tell me that you like Lancer more than Typhoon because that's your opinion, but don't say it is better than Typhoon because that's not true.

Ever heard the expression "use the right tool for the right job"?
Examples:
TSol: Typhoon>Lancer.
TSent: Typhoon<Lancer.
Typhoon's a soldier gun, CSMG is a caster gun, Lancers a Hybrid.

[Tokenusername]

RedJohn wrote...

Typhoon being better than Lancer is something that doesn't need to be overproven. 

Now, if someone really believe that Lancer is better than Typhoon they should really work in prove it.

Nice double standard.

[Malanek]

Evil Mastered wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

For example I understand if you tell me that you like Lancer more than Typhoon because that's your opinion, but don't say it is better than Typhoon because that's not true.

Ever heard the expression "use the right tool for the right job"?
Examples:
TSol: Typhoon>Lancer.
TSent: Typhoon<Lancer.
Typhoon's a soldier gun, CSMG is a caster gun, Lancers a Hybrid.

Yeah they're different weapons but the thing is that, on Platinum at least, the Typhoon is a beast and argueably the best weapon on several different kits. The Lancer is clearly not the best weapon on anything.

[RedJohn]

Evil Mastered wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

For example I understand if you tell me that you like Lancer more than Typhoon because that's your opinion, but don't say it is better than Typhoon because that's not true.

Ever heard the expression "use the right tool for the right job"?
Examples:
TSol: Typhoon>Lancer.
TSent: Typhoon<Lancer.
Typhoon's a soldier gun, CSMG is a caster gun, Lancers a Hybrid.

Why Lancer is better on Turian Sentinel than Typhoon?

And yes, I know in some characters Lancer would fit better than Typhoon, but that doesn't mean Lancer is better weapon, because even on casters Typhoon will kill faster than Lancer, has more ammo than lancer, more damage output and take advantage from Thermal packs.

[Sailears]

RedJohn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Good job asking for people's opinions and then telling them they're wrong when you disagree.

What are you Err Coots now?

Opinions and facts are not the same.

For example I understand if you tell me that you like Lancer more than Typhoon because that's your opinion, but don't say it is better than Typhoon because that's not true.

Tell me your deeps math, ThreadJohn.

Typhoon being better than Lancer is something that doesn't need to be overproven. 


Now, if someone really believe that Lancer is better than Typhoon they should really work in prove it.

On a weapons based character, as a weapon yes typhoon is better.

But I wouldn't use a typhoon on an asari adept for example - lancer is a better option for hybrid casters.

Now you could say just stick the talon/paladin/hurricane/acolyte on there and be done with it, but the lancer gives us two things
1. Nostalgia - you can play as a a proper ME1 asari commando if you like
2. Variety - nice to have a different viable option, even if it isn't as good as say, the talon.

[MaxShine]

RedJohn wrote...

For example I understand if you tell me that you like Lancer more than Typhoon because that's your opinion, but don't say it is better than Typhoon because that's not true.

Human Engineer/TGI/TSent/GE/SE/Paladin/SI (and many more) vs Geth, both weapons with disruptor ammo: Lancer >Typhoon

Modifié par BioWareMod01, 29 septembre 2013 - 08:02 .

[Evil]

RedJohn wrote...

Why Lancer is better on Turian Sentinel than Typhoon?

Because he doesn't lose the damage output from warp and overload and his ammo detonations by wrecking his cooldowns with a overweight gun, and he never needs to waste time getting ammo, thats why.

Edit: Compare these two examples and tell me which one will be FE'ing and cheesing (if thats your thing) more each round:

Typhoon TSent

Lancer TSent.

It ain't rocket science.

Modifié par Evil Mastered, 29 septembre 2013 - 07:49 .

[Really Sad Panther]

I was kind of disappointed with it, but it was fun to watch all the people who didn't have it talk about how great it was going to be, and then after they get it not come back and say it was all they were hoping for.

[lightswitch]

RedJohn wrote...

Actually, I prefer Phaeston on Turian soldier than Lancer.

RedJohn pls

honestly Lancer is the the best choice for a weapon for a TSol on platinum, especially U/U/P.

[Evil]

Curunen wrote...

On a weapons based character, as a weapon yes typhoon is better.

But I wouldn't use a typhoon on an asari adept for example - lancer is a better option for hybrid casters.

Now you could say just stick the talon/paladin/hurricane/acolyte on there and be done with it, but the lancer gives us two things
1. Nostalgia - you can play as a a proper ME1 asari commando if you like
2. Variety - nice to have a different viable option, even if it isn't as good as say, the talon.

This jellyfish understands.
I know the harrier pwns the lancer.
I also don't care.
As long as it's good enouth to work without killing the kits character, like certain setups do, that's all I ask of it.

[Jelena Jankovic]

Pretty Much Use it with the FQE and Batarian Sentinel and not much else.

[RedJohn]

MaxShine wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

For example I understand if you tell me that you like Lancer more than Typhoon because that's your opinion, but don't say it is better than Typhoon because that's not true.

Human Engineer/TGI/TSent/GE/SE/Paladin/SI (and many more) vs Geth, both weapons with disruptor ammo: Lancer >Typhoon

Anyway... RedMoron is just bored and just starts a thread 'A is better than B' which is not very smart to begin with

Why you say that Lancer is better than Typhoon on TGI? Typhoon has better damage output, can shot for way more time and benefits much better from thermal packs, the only issue there is if you get staggered, but that's totally player dependant and fixable with right hand advantage.

Same goes for Turian Sentinel, if you want to incendiary glitch Typhoon is better, if you want to mix with warp ammo typhoon is better as well. With GE Typhoon befefits even more from Hunter mode than Lancer does, knowing you can shot for more time more damage.

I mean, even with disruptor ammo against geth the only unit that would really become a problem is the Geth Drone for their sniping stunlock, but by default everyone rocket primes, so what I believe you meant is more situational, not general.

Also I don't understand why you call me moron, we haven't ever talked, but well, i guess you are the kind of people who can't have difference of opinions without falling into insults.

Modifié par RedJohn, 29 septembre 2013 - 08:37 .

[Argent Xero]

You're like an old man that watches the news all the time and argues with people for fun about the news or weather. It's like you have nothing better to do and you crave to be noticed by anybody.

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

I use it on my flamer GT (accuracy bonuses and RoF from HM), and pretty much any other caster class that I feel would benefit from having 102 bullets in the mag (w/extended mag of course) without having to go to an ammo box. Hell, I'll even use it on the Cabal Vanguard. Besides the less time I'm near ammo boxes, the more time I can be killing stuff.