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[Xilizhra]

@Xilizhra: You obviously haven't played the two Dragon Age games.

Kirkwall's a Hellmouth, and in Origins, the only possessed mages are either the ones in another (more temporary) one, or some dumb kid who outright asked to be possessed.

[Steelcan]

seriously I still want a "let them duke it out" option.

The winners impose their will, the losers are not in a position to argue.

[Medhia Nox]

@Morocco Mole: No, cause it only happens to dumb kids.. not uber super saiyan mages like Xilizhra plays.

[Heimdall]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Lord Aesir: And what if the pathetic little weakling turns to blood magic like Jowan?

Demons "seem" to think blood mages are hell-arious - look at the Hunger Demon that mocks Avernus.

Sometimes the weaklings - if also craven power mongers - might be the most dangerous.

I don't doubt it.  As mages gain greater skill and knowledge in magical power, they become more attractive to demons.  That's what the Harrowing is for, a way for mages to prove they can resist the predation of your average demon and thus be allowed to become full mages with all the additional access to study and further power that entails.

[Xilizhra]

Morocco Mole wrote...

or some dumb kid who outright asked to be possessed.

I think this is probably a good reason for the Circles to exist.

Given that the modus operandi of the Circles is why he wasn't in one... no.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

or some dumb kid who outright asked to be possessed.

I think this is probably a good reason for the Circles to exist.

Given that the modus operandi of the Circles stupidity and selfishness of a ****** Orlesian is why he wasn't in one...

Fixed it up

[Medhia Nox]

@Steelcan: No, the Chantry has a mind control beam that makes everyone hate mages.

That - or it's in the beef - I'm not sure.

[Laughing_Man]

Medhia Nox wrote...

This whole demon thing really needs to be forced on the mage PC for perspective.

"But I don't want my PC to be altered by outside forces!"

Yeah, well - being a DA mage is dangerous now isn't it? Now you "get it".

What a load of BS.
The only mages who became an abomination in DA, were either those who allowed or invited the demons in, or those that uldred forcibly made. That's it.

You are wellcome to make your own game and play it, but don't confuse what's there with the stuff that you want to see there.

Modifié par TheRedVipress, 03 octobre 2013 - 02:44 .

[LobselVith8]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Xilizhra has clearly played different versions from what most people have played my friend.

I've seen plenty of people express the same views, actually.

[Steelcan]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Xilizhra has clearly played different versions from what most people have played my friend.

I've seen plenty of people express the same views, actually.

That means nothing.

A thousand people saying bullsh*t does not change that it is still bullsh*t

[Medhia Nox]

@TheRedVipress: So, you're telling me the game doesn't stress that mages must always be cautious of possession? That demons are always trying to possess mages?

"That true tests never end." - Pride Demon, Mage Origin?

Are you going to make me cite game sections?

Please - you want it to be Magetopia and never dangerous to "real" mages like the one you play.

I want the PC's mage to face the perspective presented to every other mage in the game universe.

Because obviously - given the BSN - people are incapable of extrapolating and instead turn to their uber-mage unstoppable head canon to support what things are like in a fictional world they have no part in actually designing.

[Xilizhra]

@TheRedVipress: So, you're telling me the game doesn't stress that mages must always be cautious of possession? That demons are always trying to possess mages?

Mages must be cautious, just like one shouldn't go outside in a thunderstorm and wrap one's arms around a telephone pole. That doesn't make getting struck by lightning out of pure chance terribly likely.

[Medhia Nox]

@Xilizhra: Right - because lightning is searching for a human touching a telephone pole.

[leaguer of one]

Lord Aesir wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

The lore clearly states that the greater the amgical talent, the more appetizing the mage is to the Demon. Then logcally, the less the magical talent, the less appetizing the mage is. Therefore, if the magical talent is so insignificant that you can abrely differentiate between a mundane and the mage, the demon would probably not bother, since there are so many other more tasty targets out there.

I seem to recall some sort of developer quote that said that even the weakest mage attracts demons.

Admittedly I don't remember where, but I actually think I read a quote from Gaider saying a Mage of little and untrained talent is indistinguishable from a mundane as far as demons are concerned.

No he did not say that. Demons can sense mages.

[leaguer of one]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Lord Aesir: And what if the pathetic little weakling turns to blood magic like Jowan?

Demons "seem" to think blood mages are hell-arious - look at the Hunger Demon that mocks Avernus.

Sometimes the weaklings - if also craven power mongers - might be the most dangerous.

I don't doubt it.  As mages gain greater skill and knowledge in magical power, they become more attractive to demons.  That's what the Harrowing is for, a way for mages to prove they can resist the predation of your average demon and thus be allowed to become full mages with all the additional access to study and further power that entails.

Mages attract demon reguardless if they become more powerful or not. Remember, there is a history of untrain mages who get turned and attract demons.

[Xilizhra]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Xilizhra: Right - because lightning is searching for a human touching a telephone pole.

Lightning is searching for whatever attracts it, and has a greater chance of causing harm if a harmable being is in an area where lightning is coming down to Earth. Much like demons.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Xilizhra: Right - because lightning is searching for a human touching a telephone pole.

Lightning is searching for whatever attracts it, and has a greater chance of causing harm if a harmable being is in an area where lightning is coming down to Earth. Much like demons.

Lightning doesn't actively seek out people even on sunny days.

Demons are always trying to posess

[Xilizhra]

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Xilizhra: Right - because lightning is searching for a human touching a telephone pole.

Lightning is searching for whatever attracts it, and has a greater chance of causing harm if a harmable being is in an area where lightning is coming down to Earth. Much like demons.

Lightning doesn't actively seek out people even on sunny days.

Demons are always trying to posess

And almost never succeed because, you know, the Veil. You have to have mental armor cracked in an area of badly weakened Veil, or actively invite it in.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Xilizhra: Right - because lightning is searching for a human touching a telephone pole.

Lightning is searching for whatever attracts it, and has a greater chance of causing harm if a harmable being is in an area where lightning is coming down to Earth. Much like demons.

Lightning doesn't actively seek out people even on sunny days.

Demons are always trying to posess

And almost never succeed because, you know, the Veil. You have to have mental armor cracked in an area of badly weakened Veil, or actively invite it in.

That in no way reduces their danger to everyone else

[Xilizhra]

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Xilizhra: Right - because lightning is searching for a human touching a telephone pole.

Lightning is searching for whatever attracts it, and has a greater chance of causing harm if a harmable being is in an area where lightning is coming down to Earth. Much like demons.

Lightning doesn't actively seek out people even on sunny days.

Demons are always trying to posess

And almost never succeed because, you know, the Veil. You have to have mental armor cracked in an area of badly weakened Veil, or actively invite it in.

That in no way reduces their danger to everyone else

Between this and the "even on sunny days" line, I legitimately have no idea what you're talking about.

[Medhia Nox]

First off, lightning isn't searching for anything. It isn't sentient. Demons ARE actively seeking things.

Humans touching telephone poles don't attract lightning any more than telephone poles by themselves do.

Even a lightning rod relies on height. It's not like lightning rods are magical pieces of lightning attracting metal.