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[Mr.House]

If you help the mages, all elves die. Bioware make it happen.

[Xilizhra]

Then I admire your commitment to equality, House. Siding with Tevinter could be then just as good an option as siding with Justinia. I actually have no major problems with this plan.

[Medhia Nox]

@Volus Warlord: As a volus warlord I would expect that you would understand the necessity in both commerce and combat to reduce your goal to "number of units".

[Mr.House]

Xilizhra wrote...

Then I admire your commitment to equality, House. Siding with Tevinter could be then just as good an option as siding with Justinia. I actually have no major problems with this plan.

Why would I side with Tevinter? I don't agree with non regulated magic.

[Xilizhra]

Mr.House wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Then I admire your commitment to equality, House. Siding with Tevinter could be then just as good an option as siding with Justinia. I actually have no major problems with this plan.

Why would I side with Tevinter? I don't agree with non regulated magic.

What I'm saying is that it'd be considered just as "good" an option if no side has any moral superiority over any other.

[Medhia Nox]

@Mr. House: Elves OR mages is a decision I've been really hoping for for a long time. Not sure "how" they would achieve it, but after spending time on the BSN - all I know is that I want it.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 30 septembre 2013 - 01:31 .

[Mr.House]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Then I admire your commitment to equality, House. Siding with Tevinter could be then just as good an option as siding with Justinia. I actually have no major problems with this plan.

So you also support slavery then?

For the greater good.

[Plaintiff]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I'm well aware of the difficulty of the situation. and that didn't stop me from picking a side very easily.

It is very easy to pick sides when you ignore everything that does not support your impulsive predisposition. 

I don't ignore it, I just don't care.

In the real world, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many things possess the ability to kill me, or kill a lot of people at once. Electricity, for instance. Radiation. Cars.

Like these technologies and more, the dangers of magic are proportional to its considerable benefits. If the Chantry and its adherents want to cower in fear of it like ignorant cavemen, that's their business. I'm more intereted in leading Thedas out of its primitive quagmire.

[LobselVith8]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@LobselVith8: Then Mr.House wouldn't be talking about those people.

But if you think there are not certain posters on here that excuse any mage behavior because: bad day, hurt feelings, heard of some mage who once had a Templar say something mean - I think you're not paying attention.

People have different opinions on certain characters, but I seriously doubt most people think all mages are incapable of wrongdoing.

[Navasha]

Xilizhra wrote...

Intriguing. Do you advocate, too, for an even mix of good and evil darkspawn?

You could easily make the argument that the "good" darkspawn are the Grey Wardens, you know.   Equally tainted, but noble of purpose.

[Mr.House]

Plaintiff wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I'm well aware of the difficulty of the situation. and that didn't stop me from picking a side very easily.

It is very easy to pick sides when you ignore everything that does not support your impulsive predisposition. 

I don't ignore it, I just don't care.

In the real world, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many things possess the ability to kill me, or kill a lot of people at once. Electricity, for instance. Radiation. Cars.

Like these technologies and more, the dangers of magic are proportional to its considerable benefits. If the Chantry and its adherents want to cower in fear of it like ignorant cavemen, that's their business. I'm more intereted in leading Thedas out of its primitive quagmire.

I never knew any of that could mind control a person or summon a demon that could bring corpses to life to ravage a town.

[Xilizhra]

Mr.House wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I'm well aware of the difficulty of the situation. and that didn't stop me from picking a side very easily.

It is very easy to pick sides when you ignore everything that does not support your impulsive predisposition. 

I don't ignore it, I just don't care.

In the real world, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many things possess the ability to kill me, or kill a lot of people at once. Electricity, for instance. Radiation. Cars.

Like these technologies and more, the dangers of magic are proportional to its considerable benefits. If the Chantry and its adherents want to cower in fear of it like ignorant cavemen, that's their business. I'm more intereted in leading Thedas out of its primitive quagmire.

I never knew any of that could mind control a person or summon a demon that could bring corpses to life to ravage a town.

You haven't answered my question. Given that the Tevinter Senate is also composed of free-willed people, as that was your argument in favor of the templars, should the magisters not also be given the same moral equivalence?

[Medhia Nox]

I love the "magic is a tool" comment.

The mages of Thedas don't even know what magic is on Thedas.. but the BSN forumites? They know!

[AresKeith]

Morocco Mole wrote...

I think my favorite part is that a lot of pro-magers are perfectly fine with supporting Tevinter after accusing the Circle and Chantry of slavery.

And genocide

[Mr.House]

Morocco Mole wrote...

I think my favorite part is that a lot of pro-magers are perfectly fine with supporting Tevinter after accusing the Circle and Chantry of slavery.

Equality.

[Herr Uhl]

Filament wrote...

I wasn't questioning what he wrote. It was more of an addendum, that people congratulating him for his neutrality are only so comfortable because at the moment they read a subtly pro-templar motive behind it, being that it only tears down the extreme of one side.

They might be allieved that he doesn't have the aim to make this a subject of good vs evil. If it fails, that will be because he failed in his aim, not because it was meant to be black and white.

[Ravensword]

Plaintiff wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I'm well aware of the difficulty of the situation. and that didn't stop me from picking a side very easily.

It is very easy to pick sides when you ignore everything that does not support your impulsive predisposition. 

I don't ignore it, I just don't care.

In the real world, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many things possess the ability to kill me, or kill a lot of people at once. Electricity, for instance. Radiation. Cars.

-snip-

It's true. My car was possessed by a demon and tried to kill me like in the movie/book Christine.

[leaguer of one]

 "I find it a bit strange that one of the most frequent questions I’m 
PM’d with is which side of the mage-templar issue I personally support. 
The answer, of course, is that I support neither… or, rather, I support 
both."

Go team pro-circle...

[Cainhurst Crow]

Good and evil are best saved for star wars. This is dragon age, let meritocratic morality decide.