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[Mr.House]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Good and evil are best saved for star wars. This is dragon age, let meritocratic morality decide.

Agent and trooper story do grey better then DA.

Modifié par Mr.House, 30 septembre 2013 - 01:44 .

[Ravensword]

Beware of demon-possessed automobiles!

[Volus Warlord]

Plaintiff wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I'm well aware of the difficulty of the situation. and that didn't stop me from picking a side very easily.

It is very easy to pick sides when you ignore everything that does not support your impulsive predisposition. 

I don't ignore it, I just don't care.

In the real world, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many things possess the ability to kill me, or kill a lot of people at once. Electricity, for instance. Radiation. Cars.

Like these technologies and more, the dangers of magic are proportional to its considerable benefits. If the Chantry and its adherents want to cower in fear of it like ignorant cavemen, that's their business. I'm more intereted in leading Thedas out of its primitive quagmire.

And in Dragon Age, the Circles exist to both maximize the positive effects with training and minimize the negative with containment. 

I'd hardly call that primitive. It's pretty intuitive risk management.

[Mr.House]

Ravensword wrote...

Beware of demon-possessed automobiles!

What about a demon doll?

[AresKeith]

Mr.House wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Beware of demon-possessed automobiles!

What about a demon doll?

Chucky?

[leaguer of one]

Xilizhra wrote...
All templars who do not break with the Order's position on imprisoning mages are villains. Nothing any game says will change that.

Wow...It's like you don't get that Templars are meant to work with mages...

[Ravensword]

Mr.House wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Beware of demon-possessed automobiles!

What about a demon doll?

OMG! NO! Everything's out to get me! Fetch the templars to lock up all the cars, dolls, electricity, and radiation!

[Xilizhra]

leaguer of one wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
All templars who do not break with the Order's position on imprisoning mages are villains. Nothing any game says will change that.

Wow...It's like you don't get that Templars are meant to work with mages...

It's certainly not how they function.

[leaguer of one]

Mr.House wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Good and evil are best saved for star wars. This is dragon age, let meritocratic morality decide.

Agent and trooper story do grey better then DA.

He's taking about the movies. If he just watched the last 2 seasons of clone wars he would not say that.

[leaguer of one]

Xilizhra wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
All templars who do not break with the Order's position on imprisoning mages are villains. Nothing any game says will change that.

Wow...It's like you don't get that Templars are meant to work with mages...

It's certainly not how they function.

Which is the problem.  They are meant to fountions with the templar working with the mages not br judge jury and slayer.
The fact that it not working like that means it's falling apart.

[Plaintiff]

Mr.House wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I'm well aware of the difficulty of the situation. and that didn't stop me from picking a side very easily.

It is very easy to pick sides when you ignore everything that does not support your impulsive predisposition. 

I don't ignore it, I just don't care.

In the real world, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many things possess the ability to kill me, or kill a lot of people at once. Electricity, for instance. Radiation. Cars.

Like these technologies and more, the dangers of magic are proportional to its considerable benefits. If the Chantry and its adherents want to cower in fear of it like ignorant cavemen, that's their business. I'm more intereted in leading Thedas out of its primitive quagmire.

I never knew any of that could mind control a person or summon a demon that could bring corpses to life to ravage a town.

If you feel that mind control is worse than cancer, or being murdered outright, or that demons are worse than gasoline fires or nuclear explosives, then feel free to stay in your cave.

[BlueMagitek]

^^ Aren't you against tranquility when it and mind control operate on very similar if not the same level of morality?

[leaguer of one]

Mr.House wrote...

If you help the mages, all elves die. Bioware make it happen.

Don't do this bioware... I will seriously kill every mage if you do this.

[Ravensword]

Plaintiff wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I'm well aware of the difficulty of the situation. and that didn't stop me from picking a side very easily.

It is very easy to pick sides when you ignore everything that does not support your impulsive predisposition. 

I don't ignore it, I just don't care.

In the real world, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many things possess the ability to kill me, or kill a lot of people at once. Electricity, for instance. Radiation. Cars.

Like these technologies and more, the dangers of magic are proportional to its considerable benefits. If the Chantry and its adherents want to cower in fear of it like ignorant cavemen, that's their business. I'm more intereted in leading Thedas out of its primitive quagmire.

I never knew any of that could mind control a person or summon a demon that could bring corpses to life to ravage a town.

If you feel that mind control is worse than cancer, or being murdered outright, or that demons are worse than gasoline fires or nuclear explosives, then feel free to stay in your cave.

OMG! NO! More things out to get me! Fetch the templars and have them lock up all the cancer, murderers, gasoline fires, and nuclear explosives!

[Herr Uhl]

I'm suddenly reminded of why I dislike this place.

[Xilizhra]

BlueMagitek wrote...

^^ Aren't you against tranquility when it and mind control operate on very similar if not the same level of morality?

No, because mind control is, or at least can be, temporary.

[BlueMagitek]

leaguer of one wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

If you help the mages, all elves die. Bioware make it happen.

Don't do this bioware... I will seriously kill every mage if you do this.

Pick Orlais -> Elves gain full rights as citizens, Mages return to Circles.
Pick Tevinter -> All elves are enslaved to pre-Andraste levels, Mages gain full rights as citizens and join lower nobility status.

[Plaintiff]

Ravensword wrote...
OMG! NO! More things out to get me! Fetch the templars and have them lock up all the cancer, murderers, gasoline fires, and nuclear explosives!

None of these things are "out to get you". And neither is magic. It's a natually occuring force in the world, it has no moral value.

[BlueMagitek]

Xilizhra wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

^^ Aren't you against tranquility when it and mind control operate on very similar if not the same level of morality?

No, because mind control is, or at least can be, temporary.

That was not addressed to you, but as of now, tranquility can be undone.

[leaguer of one]

[quote]Plaintiff wrote...


[/quote]If you feel that mind control is worse than cancer, or being murdered outright, or that demons are worse than gasoline fires or nuclear explosives, then feel free to stay in your cave.
[/quote]
Someone needs to learn their are worst things then death.

Would you want to be alive is so much despeir, tomments and pain that you want to die or would rather die.

That's being forced on and flogged to nearly the point of death and then be nursed  back to heath so they can do it again or chopping block...

[Drone696]

Herr Uhl wrote...

I'm suddenly reminded of why I dislike this place.

>:'D

[BlueMagitek]

MasterScribe wrote...

Either way, elven mages become the supreme rulers of Thedas.
Elven mage supremacy! 

You'd think so, but they keep doing things that get them in trouble.

Just like every Keeper and major Dalish Mage we've seen so far.

[leaguer of one]

BlueMagitek wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

If you help the mages, all elves die. Bioware make it happen.

Don't do this bioware... I will seriously kill every mage if you do this.

Pick Orlais -> Elves gain full rights as citizens, Mages return to Circles.
Pick Tevinter -> All elves are enslaved to pre-Andraste levels, Mages gain full rights as citizens and join lower nobility status.

BURN TEVINTER TO THE GROUND!!!!!!!

[Plaintiff]

Volus Warlord wrote...

And in Dragon Age, the Circles exist to both maximize the positive effects with training and minimize the negative with containment. 

I'd hardly call that primitive. It's pretty intuitive risk management.

On the contrary, the Circles have no interest in the former. The Chantry deliberately restricts magical research.

And they failed at the latter.