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[MisterJB]

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

[MisterJB]

doublepost. Pardon.

Modifié par MisterJB, 13 octobre 2013 - 09:02 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

Foolish Mages, acting like their opinions matter.

Guess we'll have a lot more Tranquil when this is over.

[cjones91]

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

I've seen plenty of threads that called for the mass murder of mages and the destruction of Tevinter.

[DKJaigen]

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

It's not speculation. It's been explicitly stated that The Imperium would collapse without slaves. The Codex also states that Tevinter is the biggest consumer of the slaves trade by far and that victims who go to Orlais are "lucky" because they are usually treated gently.

The Imperial Chantry is not weak because it is run by Magisters. It's powerful among the people of Tevinter, and it's strong because it's directly tied to the Magisterium.

The Codex entry on Tevinter talks about how corrupt and decadent it is. The Codex entry on Orlais talks about it's masks.

The power struggle between magisters is more brutal than the Orlesian Grand Game because it isn't bound by the pretext of honor and appearance. As a result more people are caught in the middle, especially since the blood of slaves directly fuels that power struggle. Killing of abusing servants doesn't help Orlesian nobles like it does Tevinter Magisters.

And my point was also that Orlais may have conquered other nations, but Tevinter conquered more so it's worse.

nope chantry propaganda is chantry propaganda and i do not judge from one point of view in the same way i cannot judge orlais as i have not seen enough about it

[Cainhurst Crow]

cjones91 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

I've seen plenty of threads that called for the mass murder of mages and the destruction of Tevinter.

I haven't. Guess we're both right and wrong.

[wolfhowwl]

It is odd then that the testimony of Fenris and Varania, the actions of Caladrius and Danarius, the bands of government sponsored slavers roving lands outside Tevinter all support the so-called Chantry propaganda.

[Hellion Rex]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

I've seen plenty of threads that called for the mass murder of mages and the destruction of Tevinter.

I haven't. Guess we're both right and wrong.

Well, if you are looking for the mass murder of mages, look at Grand Admiral Cheesecake's post on this page...<_<

[Cainhurst Crow]

eluvianix wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

I've seen plenty of threads that called for the mass murder of mages and the destruction of Tevinter.

I haven't. Guess we're both right and wrong.

Well, if you are looking for the mass murder of mages, look at Grand Admiral Cheesecake's post on this page...<_<

1. That was sarcasm, I believe.

2. Tranquility isn't murder.

However, I don't belive Cheesecake ever made an entire thread on the subject of tranquiling all mages. Mage supports on the other hand.

http://social.biowar.../index/17387477

[billy the squid]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

Foolish Mages, acting like their opinions matter.

Guess we'll have a lot more Tranquil when this is over.

You're far too kind, burning them at the stake serves a two fold purpose. purification and keeping the general populace warm.

[Hellion Rex]

billy the squid wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

Foolish Mages, acting like their opinions matter.

Guess we'll have a lot more Tranquil when this is over.

You're far too kind, burning them at the stake serves a two fold purpose. purification and keeping the general populace warm.

Have fun when the Qunari steamroll through Thedas! Also, hope you enjoy when the Blights overtake the land because you could not perform a Joining.

[cjones91]

billy the squid wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

Foolish Mages, acting like their opinions matter.

Guess we'll have a lot more Tranquil when this is over.

You're far too kind, burning them at the stake serves a two fold purpose. purification and keeping the general populace warm.

This is what I'm talking about......

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

billy the squid wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

Foolish Mages, acting like their opinions matter.

Guess we'll have a lot more Tranquil when this is over.

You're far too kind, burning them at the stake serves a two fold purpose. purification and keeping the general populace warm.

Hmm, I do believe I like your proposal.

By this time next year all of Ferelden will run on mage fuel!

Of course we'll have to make sure we plant another one for every one we burn. Don't want to run out of this valuable resource any time soon.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 13 octobre 2013 - 09:39 .

[Hellion Rex]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

I've seen plenty of threads that called for the mass murder of mages and the destruction of Tevinter.

I haven't. Guess we're both right and wrong.

Well, if you are looking for the mass murder of mages, look at Grand Admiral Cheesecake's post on this page...<_<

1. That was sarcasm, I believe.

2. Tranquility isn't murder.

However, I don't belive Cheesecake ever made an entire thread on the subject of tranquiling all mages. Mage supports on the other hand.

http://social.biowar.../index/17387477

Trust me, Lord Raijin isn't the first nor will he be the last to create such thread, on either extreme side of the spectrum.
I have seen just as many extremist mage posts as templars. We mages hardly have a monopoly on extremism.

Modifié par eluvianix, 13 octobre 2013 - 09:40 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

eluvianix wrote...


Have fun when the Qunari steamroll through Thedas!

>Implying we would have a problem with that.

[Hellion Rex]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

eluvianix wrote...


Have fun when the Qunari steamroll through Thedas!

>Implying we would have a problem with that.

Fine then. If the threat of the Qunari doesn't affect you, what about a Blight that you cannot stop?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

eluvianix wrote...



Fine then. If the threat of the Qunari doesn't affect you, what about a Blight that you cannot stop?

>Implying I would have a problem with that.

[billy the squid]

eluvianix wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

eluvianix wrote...


Have fun when the Qunari steamroll through Thedas!

>Implying we would have a problem with that.

Fine then. If the threat of the Qunari doesn't affect you, what about a Blight that you cannot stop?

More Broodmother romace FTW!

[BlueMagitek]

Besides, the Architect promised to stop the Blights, remember? We can trust an amoral talking Darkspawn - he's never even heard the Chant of Light!

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Besides, the Architect promised to stop the Blights, remember? We can trust an amoral talking Darkspawn - he's never even heard the Chant of Light!

That Architect was a good myn.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

billy the squid wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

eluvianix wrote...


Have fun when the Qunari steamroll through Thedas!

>Implying we would have a problem with that.

Fine then. If the threat of the Qunari doesn't affect you, what about a Blight that you cannot stop?

More Broodmother romace FTW!

And here I thought Broodmothers only romanced darkspawn.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...



And here I thought Broodmothers only romanced darkspawn.

I will find a way or make one.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...



And here I thought Broodmothers only romanced darkspawn.

I will find a way or make one.

Dumat approves +10

[BlueMagitek]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

That Architect was a good myn.

If you say so, but I'm telling you that I saw the crazy eyes. 

[Mr.House]

eluvianix wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Wars aren't routine like Tevinter slaving operations. Also Chevaliers are hardly alone in doing terrible things during wars. There are many reasons Orlais is better than Tevinter.

But Tevinter has the Magisters so they get a pass.

Says who?

I daresay you'll be hard pressed to encounter posts calling for the destruction of Tevinter whereas "Destroy Orlais, destroy the Chantry; kill all Templars, kill all Qunari" are a dime a dozen.

Foolish Mages, acting like their opinions matter.

Guess we'll have a lot more Tranquil when this is over.

You're far too kind, burning them at the stake serves a two fold purpose. purification and keeping the general populace warm.

Have fun when the Qunari steamroll through Thedas!

I would help the Qunari given the chance.