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As I've previously noted, it's rather unfair to bash mages for losing to Templars. The Templars are specifically given magic themselves in order to nullify that of the mages. When that happens, the mages are just guys in robes, whereas despite the sharply limited magic of the Templars, they're still armed and armored. Which brings me to the mages being untrained in melee: it's also by design, because Bioware realized how stupidly broken that can get. (They left it in to some extent with the Arcane Warrior, but made it cost a lot of mana. Given how everyone knows its broken, you can bet they won't do that again.) Reading between the lines you can absolutely see that the Templars play this up in DA:O; there's a Codex describing a Senior Enchanter attempts to teach his apprentices how to actually fight, because it's stupid that they can't defend themselves from "weapons any ditch-digger could shove between their ribs." The Templars confiscate it, specifically so that mages don't get to be broken as crap; they can already give the Templars some trouble when they have a mind to, which in the context of the Templars being given the power to block magic is downright embarrasing.[/quote]
well you have chance to use strong magic or weak magic in fight you have small chances to win what you will take fireball or crappy flamethrower well everyone chose second does that have sense, no they rather don't have access to fireball. Trouble nope in da 2 they wreck completely mages.
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If this happened regularly, the Chantry would advertise it so that
more mages would go to the Circles. As for why abominations don't seem
rare, its because the PC needs enemies to fight and darkspawn get
boring. If abominations like Connor or Uldred were commonplace, there would be no world.
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Well chantry kills or made mages zombie if they are too weak and have weak willpower and still we have many abomnations enemies aren't problem they add even new to Inquisition just look on da univere we have world full of them and well even if they added that for reason we don't have enemies still they are there so they aren't rare.Devs can tell me otherwise and that abomnations are rare but if meet one in every alley then devs simply don't know what they do.
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The Anvil doesn't count. That was the work of someone who had to earn his magic.
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still magic work but i can spare that example becaue that wasn't mage still we have 151513
disasters sponsored by mages.
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The Codex about the Qunari wars is not legend, it's history. Written
by a body that does not sympathize with the mages politically and in
many cases outright hates them. That makes anything they say in praise
of the mages stronger evidence than you claim. Go ahead and argue that
we don't know for sure, but unless you've got something really good
you're not going to convince anyone of whatever alternate explanation you've concocted.
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Sorry but thedas have problems with history that it differs a little than legends chantry painted calenhad as big hero and after all we know that was just lie , and well still we have old legends vs current mages are wrecked by everyone what is more reliable?
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Patently unfair. Uldred
is not far from the mark when he says mages are the larval form of...
him. You adknowledge this yourself when you say their victories don't
count.
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well abomnations aren't mages they are well abomnations still wrecked but i will give you that one because they are most powerful creatures.
[quote]With far more trouble than you give them credit for. Let's just say
there's a reason the Circle was given up as a lost cause and Annulled.
Not bad considering that the Templars are literally designed around
being a losing battle for them, and vica versa.
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Well wrecked and another failure of mages łahaha
sorry just my evil twin...
[quote]If I remember correctly, your orignal point (several pages ago) was
that not many mages were needed. This absolutely does not help that
point; it's a better argument for fielding a lot of them.
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Well because having monster of mass destruction on your side what kills everything including your peoples is good idea as we know.I don't understand this well they aren't needed and how mages who had abomnations and blood mages among them and still get wrecked by templars proves otherwise
[quote]Do you have any examples of this besides Olivia and Feynriel? Who I
doubt were combat trained? Also, as I've previously mentioned, one of
these groups was led by a mage. For them to wreck mages helps your case
far less than you claim.
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Well we have also mages from pro-mage hawke quests in 2nd act where mages what fled from circle were captured by slavers well if you want more i can't help you your hunger is eternal.
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She's a main character.
That doesn't really count. Besides, I don't think any of them were
wearing armor, or managed to tag her with a spell. My whole point is
that they're more powerful than she is. That means nothing if they don't actually manage to tag her with that power.
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In da 2 nope. In dao yep and events were in da 2 leliana don't have armor as well hardly matter they are dead killed like noobs and well she was still beaten by mercenaries in leliana song.
[quote]He was squishy, and also he was granted freedom from the Chantry due
to past services. Due to being Chantry trained, he was also not armored
or capable of handling close combat. Hence why he had a golem.
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he was war veteran *whistle*
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[quote][quote]The Qunari have them too. And were wrecking everyone.
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minor forces others were wrecking everyone with omega hiper strong arishok
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As for mage successes, I'd mention Anders against those darkspawn in the video you showed me,
except that he's a main character and therefore a class above them.
(Bear in mind that he was not an abomination at this time.) Whatever
mage you choose singlehandedly taking on the demon in the Fade. Danzig
surviving long enough as an outlaw to meet Hawke as an apostate slaver
(which is illegal twice, for those keeping score at home), however that
eventually turned out for him.[/quote]
well he killed 1 darkspawn at this point it shouldn't be impresive for you.
About his surviving he is master of escape so...
well i exclude because they are even more demon magnet ant their power is fueled by sacrifice and well you can count sane blood mage on one hand.
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