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[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

In regards to the asari and the beacon on Thessia, while I agree that the Catalyst could not have been learned about through it, it is utterly absurd, and in fact, wrong, to state that the asari learned nothing from it. If you want proof, choose the "explains asari superiority" center-left option when you first discover the beacon. Shepard (and your third party member, regardless of who it is) spells it out clear as crystal that the asari knew about the beacon for millenia, which meant millenia to discover it's secrets. A secret cracked from the beacon every once in a while would assure the asari stayed on top.

They surmise it. Given that the asari didn't have the Cipher, I find it somewhat unlikely that they were able to get much out of it, especially since the main purpose of every single beacon that we know of was to warn future cycles about the Reapers (hence their being, well, beacons).

When even Liara says that she could have learned from it without the Cipher I'm willing to guess actually intelligent scientists could learn a whole lot.

The Cipher is not a prerequisite for understanding Prothean tech, or humanity would still be stuck in Sol.

It was a prerequisite for getting the beacon's main reason for existing working, as we can clearly see in the scene itself. Whether anything else is on there is purely conjectural.

Its spelled out clear as day that the asari got their technological superiority from it.

There's some dialgoue between Javik/Liara in their confrontation that all but confirms it.  "That's not true, we earned our place in the galaxy".  Even your waifu knows its true.

[Xilizhra]

Its spelled out clear as day that the asari got their technological superiority from it.

Spelled out by those with absolutely no involvement with the project. Again, it's wholly conjectural.

[AresKeith]

Xilizhra wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

The best part is that even other asari have made similar statements, like Athyeta.

This is roughly similar to N-word privileges.

I know you did not just say that

[KaiserShep]

N-word privileges? I know this is the internet, but I'm still a bit surprised I read that crap here.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Its spelled out clear as day that the asari got their technological superiority from it.

Spelled out by those with absolutely no involvement with the project. Again, it's wholly conjectural.

The levels of denial here are laughable.  Does it offend you that your race of ****** material isn't as awesome as they are in your mind?

[Xilizhra]

N-word privileges? I know this is the internet, but I'm still a bit surprised I read that crap here.

Again, not my term. The point is that it's frequently considered more acceptable for members of one's own group to make disparaging comments about that group than for outsiders to do so.

The levels of denial here are laughable. Does it offend you that your race of ****** material isn't as awesome as they are in your mind?

I know you want to claim some sort of masturbatory victory for humanity in some unfathomable way, but you still don't have proof.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

The levels of denial here are laughable. Does it offend you that your race of ****** material isn't as awesome as they are in your mind?

I know you want to claim some sort of masturbatory victory for humanity in some unfathomable way, but you still don't have proof.

Coming from you I find that incredibly funny

[2Pac]

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

The levels of denial here are laughable. Does it offend you that your race of ****** material isn't as awesome as they are in your mind?

I know you want to claim some sort of masturbatory victory for humanity in some unfathomable way, but you still don't have proof.

Coming from you I find that incredibly funny

Wish we could punch people through the internet.

[AresKeith]

Xilizhra wrote...

N-word privileges? I know this is the internet, but I'm still a bit surprised I read that crap here.

Again, not my term. The point is that it's frequently considered more acceptable for members of one's own group to make disparaging comments about that group than for outsiders to do so.

Once again, it's not even close to what the N-word is

Just because YOU find it just as offensive doesn't mean it is

And your comment about that pissed me off and offended me

[Xilizhra]

AresKeith wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

N-word privileges? I know this is the internet, but I'm still a bit surprised I read that crap here.

Again, not my term. The point is that it's frequently considered more acceptable for members of one's own group to make disparaging comments about that group than for outsiders to do so.

Once again, it's not even close to what the N-word is

Just because YOU find it just as offensive doesn't mean it is

And your comment about that pissed me off and offended me

Aethyta's line, not quite. Joker's, pretty much. If nothing else, it's akin to saying "black people should have had fewer gangsters and more college graduates."

Modifié par Xilizhra, 19 octobre 2013 - 02:52 .

[ruggly]

This can only end well.

[AresKeith]

Xilizhra wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

N-word privileges? I know this is the internet, but I'm still a bit surprised I read that crap here.

Again, not my term. The point is that it's frequently considered more acceptable for members of one's own group to make disparaging comments about that group than for outsiders to do so.

Once again, it's not even close to what the N-word is

Just because YOU find it just as offensive doesn't mean it is

And your comment about that pissed me off and offended me

Aethyta's line, not quite. Joker's, pretty much. If nothing else, it's akin to saying "black people should have had fewer gangsters and more college graduates."

Just stop talking/posting

[Xilizhra]

ruggly wrote...

This can only end well.

Well, the whole thread's essence is terrible.

Just stop talking/posting

I think not. I'm having fun.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 19 octobre 2013 - 03:01 .

[ruggly]

Xilizhra wrote...

ruggly wrote...

This can only end well.

Well, the whole thread's essence is terrible.

Toss that essence into a beam, it will fix things right up.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

ruggly wrote...

This can only end well.

Well, the whole thread's essence is terrible.

Can't be hatin on liara, is that Capital Crim in your new world order?

[Xilizhra]

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

ruggly wrote...

This can only end well.

Well, the whole thread's essence is terrible.

Can't be hatin on liara, is that Capital Crim in your new world order?

Yes. Crim is a newly founded lunar colony somewhere in the Terminus Systems, whose capital is "Hatin on Liara." Its population consists of paroled ex-Cerberus members and vorcha.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

ruggly wrote...

This can only end well.

Well, the whole thread's essence is terrible.

Can't be hatin on liara, is that Capital Crim in your new world order?

Yes. Crim is a newly founded lunar colony somewhere in the Terminus Systems, whose capital is "Hatin on Liara." Its population consists of paroled ex-Cerberus members and vorcha.

If its away from your rule sign me up

[KENNY4753]

Honestly I agree with Xilizhra. It is more acceptable for a person of one race to use racial slurs/racist jokes to their own race than one who isnt.

For example if a Hispanic uses the term wet(blank) people dont make a big deal about it but if a white guy used the term it would be a huge deal. Dont get me wrong I dont approve of racial slurs but thats the truth.

Well that being said....What was the topic of this thread again?

[Hazegurl]

Steelcan wrote...

Do you really think its smart for the representative of the government should not be informed of things like this? She has every reason to know. The only reason you think otherwise is because it tears some fetish for the race of bimbos you have apart. They aren't paragons of civilazation, they are just good at playing the galaxy's game.

You have no reason to believe that she is a security risk. Nassana was worried about being removed for her connections, I doubt she could get all the way to councillor with anything less than a completely clean back ground.

I agree, if she didn't know then how did she get her hands on the information to tell Shepard to begin with? If Shepard calls her out for keeping it secret she doesn't deny that it was a secret, she never states that she just found out. No. All roads point to her knowing but holding out.  It makes zero sense for her to not know the strengths of the Asari people. Even the Salarian councilor was involved in the Sabotage of the Genophage. A highly secretive government incentive.  It would be insane for the Asari councilor to have zero freaking clue about research that have been going on for thousands of years. I can understand the Asari commandos not knowing, but the Citadel Councilor? That would be a freaking joke.

[Xilizhra]

Well that being said....What was the topic of this thread again?

Paranoia.

I agree, if she didn't know then how did she get her hands on the information to tell Shepard to begin with?

Um, Thessia told her?

It makes zero sense for her to not know the strengths of the Asari people.

It makes less sense for her to not use this earlier if she did know.

[AresKeith]

KENNY4753 wrote...

Honestly I agree with Xilizhra. It is more acceptable for a person of one race to use racial slurs/racist jokes to their own race than one who isnt.

For example if a Hispanic uses the term wet(blank) people dont make a big deal about it but if a white guy used the term it would be a huge deal. Dont get me wrong I dont approve of racial slurs but thats the truth.

Well that being said....What was the topic of this thread again?

That's not the issue really (even though the Asari jokes are the Asari's fault in the first place)

The problem is Xil comparing that to the N-word which is BS no matter what because it's not even close

[CynicalShep]

Xilizhra wrote...

They surmise it. Given that the asari didn't have the Cipher, I find it somewhat unlikely that they were able to get much out of it, especially since the main purpose of every single beacon that we know of was to warn future cycles about the Reapers (hence their being, well, beacons).

Of course, because nobody in Citadel space benefited from beacons and they are not the only reason humans are in Citadel space. Asari held it just to safeguard the other races.

Xilizhra wrote...

Actually, the Council created the law; I don't know whether or not the asari leadership cabal was involved in writing it.

Are you serious?

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

It makes zero sense for her to not know the strengths of the Asari people.

It makes less sense for her to not use this earlier if she did know.

Why would she?  She's pretty clearly a shill for those more powerful than her.  She wouldn't tell without permission.  And they weren't going to reveal the existence of the beacon until they had no possible alternative.

[Xilizhra]

Of course, because nobody in Citadel space benefited from beacons and they are not the only reason humans are in Citadel space. Asari held it just to safeguard the other races.

The Protheans didn't just leave behind beacons; they were only used as anti-Reaper warnings. Their tech stashes had other forms.

That's not the issue really (even though the Asari jokes are the Asari's fault in the first place)

The problem is Xil comparing that to the N-word which is BS no matter what because it's not even close

I actually never made the direct comparison, but allow me to snicker at your total lack of self-awareness with that parenthetical of yours.

Why would she?  She's pretty clearly a shill for those more powerful
than her.  She wouldn't tell without permission.  And they weren't going
to reveal the existence of the beacon until they had no possible
alternative.

Well, if we go into that, it's possible that they'd have outright killed her if she did say so... assuming she knew to begin with, which I still doubt.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 19 octobre 2013 - 03:17 .

[KaiserShep]

Lol that council dance pic is priceless.