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[CynicalShep]

Barquiel wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Call it a favor for the Catalyst. For saving the galaxy.

My sides. So Shepard flies around like a madman, secures blueprints for the Crucible, helps all the major races and tries to rally them while Earth is getting roflstomped and Tevos calls him when Thessia gets hit hard in an obvious attempt to save her entire race's backsides and sends you to secure an illegally hidden artifact from their homeplanet. 
And Hackett owes the Asari a favor for saving the galaxy?

Considering Udina's coup and Cerberus' crimes I really doubt Hackett will go around pointing fingers over issues that came to light over the war. Hackett and Tevos will share a bottle of Serrice Ice Brandy and these issues will more than likely be thrown under the rug.

But the first one is common knowledge and the perpetrator got shot. The second one is a rogue group everybody is fighting in ME3. You can't punish the Alliance for Cerberus like you can't punish the Asari for the Eclipse "sisters". You can and should, however, punish the Asari government for knowingly breaking a galactic law they undoubtedly helped implement in the first place.

I meant Cerberus' larger backers and shadow supporters. Politicians, businessmen, alliance admirals. I think Hackett wants to avoid a witch hunt.

Hackett is the last person to be afraid of "witch hunts" and an Alliance soldier just saved the universe. 
Also, most of Alliance's leadership got wiped out in the very beginning of the invasion.
Also, every single clandestine organization of a decent size will have "legal" backers and supporters, otherwise they wouldn't last a week.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

It won't be very long.  Get the krogan, turians, salarians, and humans
to gang up and they'll be squeeling like the consort when she has a
krogan client.

They can try. If so, this is why I have the Reapers.

Never fear law breakers, so long as your skin is blue the Reaper overlords have your back!

[CynicalShep]

Xilizhra wrote...

If I was more optimistic about people, I might agree with you. As it stands, I fear far too many would want to punish the entirety of the asari for what a tiny few did.

Udina got shot by a human. Think the rest of the races is going to ally themselves against the Alliance for the coup?
Why can't the Asari do the same?

[PwrdOff]

CynicalShep wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

How do you indoctrinate asses by the way? Do you just put the Reaper tech in there or something?

Or something ;-)

Ask Tevos, if she'll want to go into detail <3

She does have a nice voice, sounds better as Dr. Michel though.

[CynicalShep]

Br3ad wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

How do you indoctrinate asses by the way? Do you just put the Reaper tech in there or something?

This explains a lot about Miranda.

This hurts you.

> Implying I am afraid of DAT BOOTEH

You have no idea...

[Xilizhra]

CynicalShep wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If I was more optimistic about people, I might agree with you. As it stands, I fear far too many would want to punish the entirety of the asari for what a tiny few did.

Udina got shot by a human. Think the rest of the races is going to ally themselves against the Alliance for the coup?
Why can't the Asari do the same?

Why would I trust the galactic lowest common denominator more than I would the BSN, quite frankly?

If the fallout would land only on those directly responsible, I might consider it because I did choose Control and can deal with any problems that might arise if necessary.

[Br3admax]

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

It won't be very long.  Get the krogan, turians, salarians, and humans
to gang up and they'll be squeeling like the consort when she has a
krogan client.

They can try. If so, this is why I have the Reapers.

Never fear law breakers, so long as your skin is blue the Reaper overlords have your back!

I see nothing wrong with this. Stop just hating Liara, and admit that she is straight gorgey. 

[CynicalShep]

BNN999 wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

How do you indoctrinate asses by the way? Do you just put the Reaper tech in there or something?

Or something ;-)

Ask Tevos, if she'll want to go into detail <3

She does have a nice voice, sounds better as Dr. Michel though.

Voice, face, you name it. There's a reason she's my nr.2 favorite lady in the ME series. 

[CynicalShep]

Xilizhra wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If I was more optimistic about people, I might agree with you. As it stands, I fear far too many would want to punish the entirety of the asari for what a tiny few did.

Udina got shot by a human. Think the rest of the races is going to ally themselves against the Alliance for the coup?
Why can't the Asari do the same?

Why would I trust the galactic lowest common denominator more than I would the BSN, quite frankly?

If the fallout would land only on those directly responsible, I might consider it because I did choose Control and can deal with any problems that might arise if necessary.

So you're the Reaper BAMF overlord and you're not making it public because you're afraid of a war? Who would dare start a war with an army of Asari-protecting murder-squids? Nobody can challenge you, so why are you really refusing to enforce the law? 

Modifié par CynicalShep, 19 octobre 2013 - 05:30 .

[Barquiel]

CynicalShep wrote...

Hackett is the last person to be afraid of "witch hunts" and an Alliance soldier just saved the universe. 
Also, most of Alliance's leadership got wiped out in the very beginning of the invasion.
Also, every single clandestine organization of a decent size will have "legal" backers and supporters, otherwise they wouldn't last a week.

It's the impression I got from the epilogue. Hackett's speech about putting down grievances and the slides which show how humans, asari, turians work together...I just don't think he will go around pointing fingers. But the issue is obviously headcanon territory...

Modifié par Barquiel, 19 octobre 2013 - 05:32 .

[Xilizhra]

CynicalShep wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If I was more optimistic about people, I might agree with you. As it stands, I fear far too many would want to punish the entirety of the asari for what a tiny few did.

Udina got shot by a human. Think the rest of the races is going to ally themselves against the Alliance for the coup?
Why can't the Asari do the same?

Why would I trust the galactic lowest common denominator more than I would the BSN, quite frankly?

If the fallout would land only on those directly responsible, I might consider it because I did choose Control and can deal with any problems that might arise if necessary.

So you're the Reaper BAMF overlord and you're not making it public because you're afraid of a war? Who would dare start a war with an army of Asari-protecting murder-squids? Nobody can challenge you, so why are you really refusing to enforce the law? 

Because on an out-of-game level, I'm angry at this entire attempt at a plot point for the continuing masturbation over straightforward militaristic races and denigration of both the entire profession of politics/diplomacy and the general, well, preference for peace that the asari have. In addition to what I suspect are crypto-mysogynist leanings somewhere in here.

[Br3admax]

Well I know that I hate women, so everyone else here probably does too. Just saying.

Modifié par Br3ad, 19 octobre 2013 - 05:35 .

[CynicalShep]

Barquiel wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Hackett is the last person to be afraid of "witch hunts" and an Alliance soldier just saved the universe. 
Also, most of Alliance's leadership got wiped out in the very beginning of the invasion.
Also, every single clandestine organization of a decent size will have "legal" backers and supporters, otherwise they wouldn't last a week.

It's the impression I got from the epilogue. Hackett's speech about putting down grievances and the slides which show how humans, asari, turians work together...I just don't think he will go around pointing fingers. But the issue is obviously headcanon territory...

Yes, it is. And I wasn't advocating for a war, I just think that something as big as this HAS to be punished.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If I was more optimistic about people, I might agree with you. As it stands, I fear far too many would want to punish the entirety of the asari for what a tiny few did.

Udina got shot by a human. Think the rest of the races is going to ally themselves against the Alliance for the coup?
Why can't the Asari do the same?

Why would I trust the galactic lowest common denominator more than I would the BSN, quite frankly?

If the fallout would land only on those directly responsible, I might consider it because I did choose Control and can deal with any problems that might arise if necessary.

So you're the Reaper BAMF overlord and you're not making it public because you're afraid of a war? Who would dare start a war with an army of Asari-protecting murder-squids? Nobody can challenge you, so why are you really refusing to enforce the law? 

Because on an out-of-game level, I'm angry at this entire attempt at a plot point for the continuing masturbation over straightforward militaristic races and denigration of both the entire profession of politics/diplomacy and the general, well, preference for peace that the asari have. In addition to what I suspect are crypto-mysogynist leanings somewhere in here.

and here we have it boys, we need to check our privilege

[Br3admax]

TipsLeFedora wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

The mental gymnastics to try and excuse the asari for breaking a law, that they themselves put into place in the first place, just so they could stay ahead of the curve is hilarious.

TipsLeFedora wrote...

Liara is easily the worst character in the series.

This is true.

Stop lying to yourselves.



Computer monitors are forever tainted now. 

[eyezonlyii]

Xilizhra wrote...
Because on an out-of-game level, I'm angry at this entire attempt at a plot point for the continuing masturbation over straightforward militaristic races and denigration of both the entire profession of politics/diplomacy and the general, well, preference for peace that the asari have. In addition to what I suspect are crypto-mysogynist leanings somewhere in here.

After reading since the whole beacon argument started, I can't remember a post that denigrated the Asari outlook on peace. The attacks on the Asari have been about the hypocrisy of the beacon. It's council law that any Prothean artifacts get turned in for study. The Asari did not do that (yes yes I know...IT WAS THE MATRIARCHS!!!) Anyway, they broke the law. They should be punished. You know why?

Because the last people to break council law created an AI. And they were kicked of the Citadel, and had an orbital strike threatened on a colony after roaming th galaxy. 

The people before that tried to expand. Granted they caused a war in the process, but now they are slowly dying out because of the sins of their fathers (or fathers' fathers as the case may be)

If two other races can be punished so severely, then surely the Asari, who are the embodiment of diplomacy and civility can take a punishment to show fairness. After all, they'll  outlive anyone who sanctions them.

And you can't cry mysogony on this thread as the Asari are monogenered. You can't hate a female, if she isn't female...

Modifié par eyezonlyii, 19 octobre 2013 - 05:45 .

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...



Because on an out-of-game level, I'm angry at this entire attempt at a plot point for the continuing masturbation over straightforward militaristic races and denigration of both the entire profession of politics/diplomacy and the general, well, preference for peace that the asari have. In addition to what I suspect are crypto-mysogynist leanings somewhere in here.

Also, how are the asari more peaceful?  They just happen to be bad at war making.  They couldn't calm the rahni with diplomacy, and peace furloughs with the krogan I'm sure went over very well.  The batarians are still running rampant in the Terminus.

Where is that good ole diplomacy?

[CynicalShep]

Xilizhra wrote...

Because on an out-of-game level, I'm angry at this entire attempt at a plot point for the continuing masturbation over straightforward militaristic races and denigration of both the entire profession of politics/diplomacy and the general, well, preference for peace that the asari have. In addition to what I suspect are crypto-mysogynist leanings somewhere in here.

Well, first - you're metagaming. And I did not denigrate anybody. In fact, I'm a diplomacy before militaristic actions type of person myself. It's very ironic, since you're the one advocating using Reapers as a scarecrow to force others to accept your views while I'm advocating for legal action. I didn't even ask for the guilty party to be shot/hanged/burned/tortured. I asked for punishment, because I deem it very fitting. I would punish them and you made it clear that you wouldn't, which is what made me curious in the first place. 

Also, what was that about crypto-misogyny again?

[Seboist]

TipsLeFedora wrote...

Liara is easily the worst character in the series.

She's up there with EDI and her mother that's for sure.

[spirosz]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

and here we have it boys, we need to check our privilege

It is done.

Now go back to discussing why asari are just as flawed and terrible as every other species

^Basically.  Humans aren't any better or worse, well they could be - but shiit - this whole Asari are always better just makes my head hurt. 

[Barquiel]

eyezonlyii wrote...

Because the last people to break council law created an AI. And they were kicked of the Citadel, and had an orbital strike threatened on a colony after roaming th galaxy. 

Yes, the last people to break council law created an AI.  But they were not kicked of the citadel, they got away with "Don't do it again, ok?". It was the Alliance.