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[Artifex_Imperius]

Thats "Doctor" Liara T'soni, hehe atleast she has that going. doctorate on archaeology? anthropology?

She did defeat the Shadow Broker SOLO. if you didnt play LotSB! hehe. and that speaks volumes coming from civilian archaelogist without a great deal of combat experience.

Uncovered the Prothean Secret Super Weapon. Culminating in the the defeat of the reapers. her name will go down ME Universe History. well that's not big though she just does her own little part to save the galaxy.

Yet even in defeat her beacons will ensure the fall of the reapers.

-"Hate narrows your vision and blinds you;"

Modifié par Artifex_Imperius, 01 octobre 2013 - 01:27 .

[KaiserShep]

I was pretty certain that Liara gets mercs to help her if Shepard doesn't. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 01 octobre 2013 - 01:28 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Han Shot First wrote...

Oh God she got there 15 seconds before Joker! Why Biower WHYYY!?! Preorder cancelled!!!!!1111

No one is complaining about that, so quit protecting your waifu with straw arguments.

What people are complaining about is the jarring nature of the scene (hence the title: "Ahhh! Liara WTF!!?").

First of all, Liara's presense in that scene was not even necessary. All she's there for is to tell Shepard that she'll have Glyph do a scan of the pistol he/she picked up, after the companion who accompanied you back to the apartment suggests using it as a lead. Why couldn't the squadmate who already came with you to the apartment suggest the same thing?

Then there's the issue of her entrance itself. If she had indeed simply arrived a few seconds sooner than the others, that might have been acceptable (still not necessary, though). However, that's not what we see. We do not hear a door open. We do not see a door open with Liara walking through. She literally appears from stage-right out of the blue (pardon the pun) without so much as a sound, and one step ahead of Shepard/Squadmate's plans by suggesting Glyph.

In-world, the best explanation is that she was already in your apartment, which has some pretty creepy implications. The more likely explanation, though, is that the writers hamfisted her into the scene because... that's what they've been doing for long enough now. And those of us who don't care for her are understandably tired of this. It's called overexposure.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 01 octobre 2013 - 01:48 .

[Steelcan]

Artifex_Imperius wrote...

Thats "Doctor" Liara T'soni, hehe atleast she has that going. doctorate on archaeology? anthropology?

She did defeat the Shadow Broker SOLO. if you didnt play LotSB! hehe. and that speaks volumes coming from civilian archaelogist without a great deal of combat experience.

Uncovered the Prothean Secret Super Weapon. Culminating in the the defeat of the reapers. her name will go down ME Universe History. well that's not big though she just does her own little part to save the galaxy.

Yet even in defeat her beacons will ensure the fall of the reapers.

-"Hate narrows your vision and blinds you;"

lol

Liara is pretty lol worthy

[GreyLycanTrope]

Steelcan wrote...
Cerberus also made massive technological leaps....

There is no reason not to study the corpse, even the goody two shoes Alliance isn't above using bits of the Reaper embryo.

We're talking about a fully intact reaper at the center of a Trashermaw pit. Not spare parts.

[Steelcan]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
Cerberus also made massive technological leaps....

There is no reason not to study the corpse, even the goody two shoes Alliance isn't above using bits of the Reaper embryo.

We're talking about a fully intact reaper at the center of a Trashermaw pit. Not spare parts.

After that thresher maw is done with it, you'll be lucky to find parts

[David7204]

This idea of 'studying Reapers and finding their weaknesses' is stupid from both a technical and narrative perspective.

No magic technology. No magic tactics.

Modifié par David7204, 01 octobre 2013 - 02:03 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

I heard them say reaper corpse sounds largely intact to me, which didn't work out to well for the Cerebrus team or the barbarians.

[wolfhowwl]

David7204 wrote...

This idea of 'studying Reapers and finding their weaknesses' is stupid from both a technical and narrative perspective.

No magic technology. No magic tactics.

The Crucible?

[David7204]

The Crucible is a tremendous mistake.

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

This idea of 'studying Reapers and finding their weaknesses' is stupid from both a technical and narrative perspective.

No magic technology. No magic tactics.

How about explaining, instead of just randoming posting

[David7204]

I need to explain why magic instant win technology and magic instant win tactics are bad writing? I need to explain why Cerberus appearing with 'We studied the Reapers and found this super-duper awesome way to beat them' is an unsatisfying plot'?

Modifié par David7204, 01 octobre 2013 - 02:07 .

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

This idea of 'studying Reapers and finding their weaknesses' is stupid from both a technical and narrative perspective.

No magic technology. No magic tactics.

Well that's just because you are an idiot with an incredibly poor grasp of just about everything.

[David7204]

Trying isn't. Succeeding is.

Also, something being plausible doesn't mean it's satisfying writing. Even if this was plausible, which it isn't, it would be garbage.

[dreamgazer]

David, did you ever come up with a plausible tactic against the Reapers that didn't hinge on research or a Crucible-like device?

[spirosz]

Is it wise to find your enemy's weakness?

Hell no, you have to win through heroic deeds, like doing a side quest when Earth is becoming a human slurpee as we speak.

[spirosz]

dreamgazer wrote...

David, did you ever come up with a plausible tactic against the Reapers that didn't hinge on research or a Crucible-like device?

He can't. 

[David7204]

A nonconventional tactic? No. I think something akin the to Catalyst handing over the choice might be workable with some very serious ironing out.

[spirosz]

David7204 wrote...

A nonconventional tactic? No. I think something akin the to Catalyst handing over the choice might be workable with some very serious ironing out.

Curious statement, continue.

[David7204]

spirosz wrote...

Is it wise to find your enemy's weakness?

Hell no, you have to win through heroic deeds, like doing a side quest when Earth is becoming a human slurpee as we speak.

There is no magic weakness. And there is no magic tactic. And it would be incredibly poor writing if there was.

Is this really up for debate?

Modifié par David7204, 01 octobre 2013 - 02:16 .

[KaiserShep]

So no research to find weaknesses, no crucible. What the hell would the alternative be? Lol

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Is it wise to find your enemy's weakness?

Hell no, you have to win through heroic deeds, like doing a side quest when Earth is becoming a human slurpee as we speak.

There is no magic weakness. And there is no magic tactic. And it would be incredibly poor writing if there was.

Is this really up for debate?

Sooo researching the Reapers and finding a weakness we could use against them is considered magic?