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[Harrod200]

If Legion is available as a squadmate (not seen anything other than 'oh he might be'), do you think you could trust it?

Legion may be a 'different sort of' Geth, but it's still Geth, and not knowing much about them (given that they've been beyond the veil for 300 years), how could we ever be certain that it's not either a Reaper worshipper, pretending to be friendly, or planning on turning us over at the first opportunity?

Could you look past Legion's species and truly trust it as an ally?

[Blue Ninja]

I might. Depends on how he acts towards Shepard.

[Metallisika]

Why not? I trusted Wrex, and his species went about conquering already populated worlds. I trusted Garrus, and one of his species tried to destroy all life as we know it by letting the reapers through the Main Relay. I will trust Mordin, even though his species designed arguably the most terrible bio-weapon ever.

[II Brownie II]

I'd sooner trust a mouse with my deliciously looking mountain of cheese

[WilliamShatner]

If you re-program him ala Arnie in T2 sure.

[Phate Phoenix]

Metallisika wrote...

Why not? I trusted Wrex, and his species went about conquering already populated worlds. I trusted Garrus, and one of his species tried to destroy all life as we know it by letting the reapers through the Main Relay. I will trust Mordin, even though his species designed arguably the most terrible bio-weapon ever.

Hit the nail on the head.

Also, how many of your companions can you truly trust? At least with Legion you can use AI Hacking.

[II Brownie II]

Phate Phoenix wrote...

Metallisika wrote...

Why not? I trusted Wrex, and his species went about conquering already populated worlds. I trusted Garrus, and one of his species tried to destroy all life as we know it by letting the reapers through the Main Relay. I will trust Mordin, even though his species designed arguably the most terrible bio-weapon ever.

Hit the nail on the head.

Also, how many of your companions can you truly trust? At least with Legion you can use AI Hacking.

Um, but thoses are SPECIES, actual meatbags... A geth is a geth it must have been programmed at some point it could not be persuaded as it has no emotion etc.

I reckon that Legion is been controlled by someone with darker motives......

[aksoileau]

Add Zaeed

[Novacain999]

II Brownie II wrote...

Phate Phoenix wrote...

Metallisika wrote...

Why not? I trusted Wrex, and his species went about conquering already populated worlds. I trusted Garrus, and one of his species tried to destroy all life as we know it by letting the reapers through the Main Relay. I will trust Mordin, even though his species designed arguably the most terrible bio-weapon ever.

Hit the nail on the head.

Also, how many of your companions can you truly trust? At least with Legion you can use AI Hacking.

Um, but thoses are SPECIES, actual meatbags... A geth is a geth it must have been programmed at some point it could not be persuaded as it has no emotion etc.

I reckon that Legion is been controlled by someone with darker motives......

The Geth aren't "controlled" by anyone. Saren nor Sovereign didn't program in the original, they made the choice to join them with their own will. That's what being an AI means, you can think for yourself.

For the record, yeah, I'll recruit him, and trust him.

[purple_zebralemon]

I will give Legion a chance, just like I will to all the squaddies in ME2. But the second any of em show betrayal... Pow right in the kissa.

[Frotality]

trust it? hell no. thats why we hack it into loyalty.

if he is a natural evolution of the geth, thats even more reason to be wary. sentient beings are not to be trusted EVER. a computer is at least predictable..an intelligent being could be any of 21423525 different things and youd never truly ever know which one.

edit: for the record, i dont 'trust' any of our squaddies. the point is to get them to trust you, not the other way around. they have their own motives, as shep has his; in this way i kinda prove my own point, manipualting my squaddie's trust for my own devices.

Modifié par Frotality, 19 janvier 2010 - 08:34 .

[Harrod200]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

Legion IS a squadmate.

Please, tell me who would be more fitting?

It's official that only 2 old mates are returning (Garrus, and Tali), and all of the spots are indicated on the website.

So far it's this:

Grunt
Miranda Lawson
Samara
Subject Zero
Tali'Zorah
Thane Krios
classified - Black Guy
classified - Garrus
classified - Mordin
classified - ?????? - Legion

I don't know about Mordin; he seems more the ship's resident scientist type than the battlefield companion. If you lose him from the list, that leaves space for Zaeed or another mystery character (Zaeed not being included on the ist as he's from a dlc)...

[GnusmasTHX]

I might shoot him while he's recharging his battery.

Also Mordin is a confirmed squad-mate. Fail.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 19 janvier 2010 - 08:37 .

[Mitch0821]

He'll be treated like everybody else on my crew, he'll have my trust intially until broken. As with the others, I will be wary of his motives, but still do the best I can to have him join my cause. That said though, I'm really looking forward to having him on the squad if he really is a squadmate.

[Medhia Nox]

I don't even trust my own race - I KNOW they're a bunch of back-stabbing opportunists.



However - that means he'll be treated equally on my crew. He screws up -

I turn him into an XBox: Sol III

[Wiggletphyre]

Why not, since I doubt the Geth even understand the concept of Betrayal

[Sialboats]

If I can't trust him, I'll just have Tali retool him into a lamp.

[Birdman117]

I would instantly trust him.



If he wanted me dead, he would have killed me already. The fact that he is following me make me trust him. He understands how people fear the Geth, so he's waiting for the right to to reveal himself to Shepard.

[RyuKazuha]

If he's recruitable, i'd trust him. if it weren't for the problems with Tali. The twi wouldn't get along well, that's sure, and i'm not certain to be able to make them accept each other. After all, the Quarians made a mistake by attempting genocide on the Geth, if Tali would understand that, and Legion abandons whatever grudge he might held against the Quarian, i'd take him along. I loved HK47, i might get to love legion too. ^^

[Harrod200]

Birdman117 wrote...

I would instantly trust him.

If he wanted me dead, he would have killed me already. The fact that he is following me make me trust him. He understands how people fear the Geth, so he's waiting for the right to to reveal himself to Shepard.

Unless he realises that while he COULD kill Shepard there and then, the SR2 is still out there with the rest of the crew. If he could deliver the whole package to the Collectors/Reapers whole, it would definitely gain Legion recognition by the Reapers (who as we know the Geth worship)...

Would be an interesting possible ending; if you have Legion recruited, but not loyal, come endgame he switches sides, leaving you one man down and the enemy one well trained and equipped man up.

Modifié par Harrod200, 19 janvier 2010 - 08:57 .

[Inarai]

II Brownie II wrote...

Phate Phoenix wrote...

Metallisika wrote...

Why not? I trusted Wrex, and his species went about conquering already populated worlds. I trusted Garrus, and one of his species tried to destroy all life as we know it by letting the reapers through the Main Relay. I will trust Mordin, even though his species designed arguably the most terrible bio-weapon ever.

Hit the nail on the head.

Also, how many of your companions can you truly trust? At least with Legion you can use AI Hacking.

Um, but thoses are SPECIES, actual meatbags... A geth is a geth it must have been programmed at some point it could not be persuaded as it has no emotion etc.

I reckon that Legion is been controlled by someone with darker motives......

The geth are a non-organic species.  Note that in Mass Effect, you have VI's and AI's.  VI's are simulations of sentience; highly advanced software with a defined function and purpose.  AI's are fully sentient creatures.

The defining element isn't carbon in the physical makeup, it's mental capacity.  As a fully sentient race, the geth possess that.

Legion, then, is further evolved, so that he can function as an individual.  The geth aren't programmed and controlled robots.

[Handren]

It seems like if you don`t do someone's loyalty mission, they will not trust you, including legion.

[Inarai]

Handren wrote...

It seems like if you don`t do someone's loyalty mission, they will not trust you, including legion.

I suspect that's the point - that mission, whether or not it's the entirety of the equation, is probably an essential element.

And one assumes that loyalty is essential to surviving the suicide run.  So, betrayals without that are quite possible.  In fact, it's fair to guess that you can't actually trust most of the squadmates.