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[dragonflight288]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Did I miss something? Lambert is dead so how would he have any factions?

Templars who follow his ideals.

[TheKomandorShepard]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Did I miss something? Lambert is dead so how would he have any factions?

Nope he isn't well we don't know that at least and i rly hope that he is alive and won't be wasted and have death like bi*** he deserves more.

[Steppenwolf]

dragonflight288 wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Did I miss something? Lambert is dead so how would he have any factions?

Templars who follow his ideals.

Where has this been established? Lambert was Lord Seeker, not a Templar. And the Red Templars are red lyrium fiends who seemingly kill anyone they feel like. What does that have to do with Lambert and his strict ideals of circles having tight control over mages?

[Steppenwolf]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Did I miss something? Lambert is dead so how would he have any factions?

Nope he isn't well we don't know that at least and i rly hope that he is alive and won't be wasted and have death like bi*** he deserves more.

...did you read the end of Asunder? He's dead.

[cjones91]

BasilKarlo wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Did I miss something? Lambert is dead so how would he have any factions?

Nope he isn't well we don't know that at least and i rly hope that he is alive and won't be wasted and have death like bi*** he deserves more.

...did you read the end of Asunder? He's dead.

Lambert is said to be missing but common sense says he's dead and Cole did something with his body.

[TheKomandorShepard]

BasilKarlo wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Did I miss something? Lambert is dead so how would he have any factions?

Nope he isn't well we don't know that at least and i rly hope that he is alive and won't be wasted and have death like bi*** he deserves more.

...did you read the end of Asunder? He's dead.

yes and nope he have scene with cole where cole want kill him but we don't know whether is dead or not because his fate is not revealed and well it is fantasy and dragon age so we have peoples who we could kill but still they come back to life.

[LobselVith8]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Where has this been established? Lambert was Lord Seeker, not a Templar. And the Red Templars are red lyrium fiends who seemingly kill anyone they feel like. What does that have to do with Lambert and his strict ideals of circles having tight control over mages? 

WoT does mention that Lambert managed to get Seekers and templars to follow him, in his defection from the Chantry when he annuled the Nevarran Accord.

[Potato Cat]

Templars are already afraid of the Dalish, no? I'm not entirely sure the Dalish story, (interwoven with the Inquistor's or not), will be concerning its mages. Though I'm sure there will be former elf mages who want to seek out the Dalish for freedom and protection, I think the main Dalish arc will be concerning either the Arlathvhen in Halamshiral, the general elven rebellion, the consequences of the events of the Masked Empire or a mixture.

[In Exile]

Lob,

It is Dragon Age: Inquisition, not Dragon Age: Dalish Protagonist Simulator. Your race choice is flavour, not the substance of the game. Expecting substantially more reactivity than DA:O is likely to lead to dissapointment.

Modifié par In Exile, 03 octobre 2013 - 02:19 .

[Heimdall]

In Exile wrote...

Lob,

It is Dragon Age: Inquisition, not Dragon Age: Dalish Protagonist Simulator. Your race choice is flavour, not the substance of the game. Expecting substantially more reactivity than DA:O is likely to lead to dissapointment.

QFT

[Medhia Nox]

But.... but... THE DALISH!

You are both obviously elf oppressors and will meet my blade on the day of reckoning!

You filthy SHEM!

*cough ahem* Oh... right... where was I?

[Xilizhra]

In Exile wrote...

Lob,

It is Dragon Age: Inquisition, not Dragon Age: Dalish Protagonist Simulator. Your race choice is flavour, not the substance of the game. Expecting substantially more reactivity than DA:O is likely to lead to dissapointment.

Well... the Red Templars are probably going to be psycho-hacking at everyone, and the templars still with the Chantry are reining themselves in, so I suppose that's true. However, with the right setup, it doesn't have to be a disappointment.

[In Exile]

Xilizhra wrote...
Well... the Red Templars are probably going to be psycho-hacking at everyone, and the templars still with the Chantry are reining themselves in, so I suppose that's true. However, with the right setup, it doesn't have to be a disappointment.

Oh, I'm sure the Red Templars are going to be totally bonkers based on what we've seen. I'm sure they'd be happy to kill Keepers while they're at whatever evil plot they're cooking.

I'm just quite sure that whatever they end up doing won't really turn a lot on the Inquisitor being Dalish or have that much to do with the Dalish elves other than (i) they have mages (ii) we stumbled on them, being mages (iii) we killed/captured them. Otherwise, it's hard to see DA:I having any kind of expansive Dalish specific plot anymore than DA:O had a Dalish specific plot. 

[Xilizhra]

In Exile wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Well... the Red Templars are probably going to be psycho-hacking at everyone, and the templars still with the Chantry are reining themselves in, so I suppose that's true. However, with the right setup, it doesn't have to be a disappointment.

Oh, I'm sure the Red Templars are going to be totally bonkers based on what we've seen. I'm sure they'd be happy to kill Keepers while they're at whatever evil plot they're cooking.

I'm just quite sure that whatever they end up doing won't really turn a lot on the Inquisitor being Dalish or have that much to do with the Dalish elves other than (i) they have mages (ii) we stumbled on them, being mages (iii) we killed/captured them. Otherwise, it's hard to see DA:I having any kind of expansive Dalish specific plot anymore than DA:O had a Dalish specific plot. 

It's more probable that the Dalish would be in conflict with Orlais proper than the templars, yes. Granted, I would quite like something more specific for a Dalish protagonist, but it may be less than likely. I think said protagonist will at least fit, though.

[In Exile]

Xilizhra wrote...
It's more probable that the Dalish would be in conflict with Orlais proper than the templars, yes. Granted, I would quite like something more specific for a Dalish protagonist, but it may be less than likely. I think said protagonist will at least fit, though.

They're clearly your antagonist, and I'm sure they're really going to be your personal antagonist if you're a  mage, but I just can't see what a bunch of doped-up, crazy ex-templars are really going to do about the Dalish part of it. Your being an elf is entirely irrelevant to your being a mage.

I mean, I suppose you could say that they want to destroy Dalish society as a whole because apostates... but if they were just going to go off rails entirely and pick a fight with random mages that aren't formerly their charges, they have way better reasons to go into Rivan and masscare Seers, who are actual abominations. 

[Master Warder Z_]

BasilKarlo wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Did I miss something? Lambert is dead so how would he have any factions?

Nope he isn't well we don't know that at least and i rly hope that he is alive and won't be wasted and have death like bi*** he deserves more.

...did you read the end of Asunder? He's dead.

I did along with the rest of the book and i can state quite confidently with the Lord Seeker easily demolishing Cole earlier that if he was given AN inch a literal half second, he could do it again even unarmed.

Cole picked that time because in a straight up fight? He loses, Because the Lord Seeker is not merely the product of training or expreince, he is the product of conviction.

Besides you seem to forget all he need to do is recite a handful of lines of text and Cole falls to pieces again as his powers go up in smoke.

By the time he recovered? Assuming he hadn't fled like a craven slug in the night he would be facing an armed and possibly armored Lambert.

[LobselVith8]

In Exile wrote...

Lob,

It is Dragon Age: Inquisition, not Dragon Age: Dalish Protagonist Simulator. Your race choice is flavour, not the substance of the game. Expecting substantially more reactivity than DA:O is likely to lead to dissapointment.

I don't see why all the racial backgrounds shouldn't be more than flavor, or why you're posting in a thread about Dalish when you've continually expressed nothing but contempt for the concept of the People.

[KENNY4753]

If they try then they will die

[Xilizhra]

In Exile wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
It's more probable that the Dalish would be in conflict with Orlais proper than the templars, yes. Granted, I would quite like something more specific for a Dalish protagonist, but it may be less than likely. I think said protagonist will at least fit, though.

They're clearly your antagonist, and I'm sure they're really going to be your personal antagonist if you're a  mage, but I just can't see what a bunch of doped-up, crazy ex-templars are really going to do about the Dalish part of it. Your being an elf is entirely irrelevant to your being a mage.

I mean, I suppose you could say that they want to destroy Dalish society as a whole because apostates... but if they were just going to go off rails entirely and pick a fight with random mages that aren't formerly their charges, they have way better reasons to go into Rivan and masscare Seers, who are actual abominations. 

It kind of seems like they've gone outright omnicidal, but I'm not quite sure. Possibly they're just following the agenda of the red lyrium. But I can't imagine they'd be fond of letting the Dalish live, somehow.

[Steelcan]

I hope so

[In Exile]

LobselVith8 wrote...
I don't see why all the racial backgrounds shouldn't be more than flavor,

Because Bioware's never made a game like that, and the last DA game where racial backgrounds were a thing, they were nothing more than flavour? 

...  you've continually expressed nothing but contempt for the concept of the People.

Only in your head is this true. I've expressed contempt for your personal promotion of ethnic cleansing, and that I think the Dalish have some very racist views, but that's very far removed from contempt of "the People", which I can only take to mean the elves. If so, then given that I've often been on the record for the CEs needing to violenty rise up and gain indepence... well, you're making stuff up, like usual. 

[Xilizhra]

Only in your head is this true. I've expressed contempt for your personal promotion of ethnic cleansing, and that I think the Dalish have some very racist views, but that's very far removed from contempt of "the People", which I can only take to mean the elves. If so, then given that I've often been on the record for the CEs needing to violenty rise up and gain indepence... well, you're making stuff up, like usual.

This may be wrong, but I think he means elves as a distinctive culture and not a Chantry-brutalized, half-enslaved, almost-completely-amnesiac one.

[In Exile]

Xilizhra wrote...
It kind of seems like they've gone outright omnicidal, but I'm not quite sure. Possibly they're just following the agenda of the red lyrium. But I can't imagine they'd be fond of letting the Dalish live, somehow.

Most likely red lyrium explains it. I'm not sure if red lyrium has an agenda, or if there's another reason it drives them crazy. I'm with you that they'd kill the Dalish, and they'd probably high-five each other about it if they're not too crazy/drug-addled to do it. I just don't think that they'd seek them out, and practically, I think that they're the antagonist for the mages whereas the Orlesians are the antagonists for the elves and that Bioware will keep those plots pretty separate. 

[Xilizhra]

In Exile wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
It kind of seems like they've gone outright omnicidal, but I'm not quite sure. Possibly they're just following the agenda of the red lyrium. But I can't imagine they'd be fond of letting the Dalish live, somehow.

Most likely red lyrium explains it. I'm not sure if red lyrium has an agenda, or if there's another reason it drives them crazy. I'm with you that they'd kill the Dalish, and they'd probably high-five each other about it if they're not too crazy/drug-addled to do it. I just don't think that they'd seek them out, and practically, I think that they're the antagonist for the mages whereas the Orlesians are the antagonists for the elves and that Bioware will keep those plots pretty separate. 

Good; mixing and matching which factions you can side with, if you just don't eliminate all the evil ones as options from the beginning, is probably the best way to go here. Also, see above for a different post of mine.

[In Exile]

Xilizhra wrote...
This may be wrong, but I think he means elves as a distinctive culture and not a Chantry-brutalized, half-enslaved, almost-completely-amnesiac one.

I fully support a distinct culture for the elves. Just not an isolationist racist one, based on promoting and creating a racially pure state to advance an agenda of racial supremacy. 

Modifié par In Exile, 03 octobre 2013 - 03:06 .