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[sandalisthemaker]

greengoron89 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Pay to play?

Guys, you're essentially turning BioWare into digital pimps.

They're already headed that route, aren't they?

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Bring on the microtransactions.

Even I have to admit that romance DLC packs would be ingenious in a monetary sense.
It would be a nightmare for PR.
The fan rage would be epic, but they would sell in the end.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:14 .

[Enshaid]

It's physically painful to know that this thread exists. Not just the opinion expressed in the OP, but the fact that someone actually believed this could spawn rational discussion.

[The Don's Hound]

CrustyBot wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

You could probably do at least five romance DLC packs. #5 being the one with all of the kinky stuff.

1. bad boys 'n' girls

2. sweet things

3. clingers

4. forbidden love

5. freaky non-human fun

Would probably sell like hotcakes, especially if it was Day-1.

What about the classics?

1. Virginal girl next door.
2. Crazy off the wall, let's have it on right here.

I mean, these are BioWare-approved after all.

You forgot the third.

3. The virginal girl next door who really wants to have it right there. 

[Steelcan]

Ryzaki wrote...

@Steel: I didn't mean to annoy you

EA business practices just have a tendency to do that

[Br3admax]

wolfhowwl wrote...

There is no amount of money I...uh some people wouldn't pay to get their hands on these!

https://encrypted-tb...7TPyRSGVy8vcYwq

Her ****** were huge. First time I saw them I didn't know whether to laugh or shake my head. 

Modifié par Br3ad, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:15 .

[Hellion Rex]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I don't care about people's preferences. I care about the quality of the game, and when the writer's have to spend extra time deciding on the exact perfect way to execute one hour of content, then the other 39 hours will have less focus on them. Even if it's just that little bit.

If the tiny amount of resources used on this bugs you that much, other companies exist. Hell, I basically only used half of Shepard's content throughout all of ME because I don't take Renegade options, but I'm not complaining to Bioware for putting it in.

Now who's undermining people's preferences?

What you're saying, essentially, is "this tiny part of the game I do not do is giving me more annoyance than removing romance would give anyone else." At least I hope so, otherwise you're willing to inconvenience others more than you're being inconvenienced now, which just seems unpleasant. And if you do think it's worse for you... well, why? Do you agonize over every other sidequest that you don't do and wonder how much it took away from the main story? Should all sidequests ever be abolished?

You're pretty much saying that there is only one way that a Bioware game could work, and I should walk if I don't like it. I don't think taking away romances would inconvienience people that much. They can still develop relationships with all of the characters. They can still create fanfics. They can still discuss their favorite characters with like-minded people. There just won't be a sex scene, g.

I think the arguing on this thread proves otherwise man.

[dreamgazer]

greengoron89 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Can we negotiate with BioWare over the price of said Luvin ' DLC?

The -mancer crowd are a pretty dedicated lot. They could get away with fairly steep price, I'd wager. I'd say $10 a pop at least.

Per character? Or for the whole she-bang?

[Xilizhra]

You're pretty much saying that there is only one way that a Bioware game could work, and I should walk if I don't like it. I don't think taking away romances would inconvienience people that much. They can still develop relationships with all of the characters. They can still create fanfics. They can still discuss their favorite characters with like-minded people. There just won't be a sex scene, g.

Then you think badly incorrectly, as you can tell from... well, this thread. I have no intention of making you walk if you don't want to, but if the mere presence of a sidequest you don't enjoy sends you on a frenzy of wanting to ban it, I frankly think you're the one being unreasonable.

[Ryzaki]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Pay to play?

Guys, you're essentially turning BioWare into digital pimps.

They're already headed that route, aren't they?

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Bring on the microtransactions.

Even I have to admit that romance DLC packs would be ingenious in a monetary sense.
It would be a nightmare for PR.
The fan rage would be epic, but they would sell in the end.

As much as I dislike it it is true.

But we all know where that road leads. First they took out a extra companion, then they took the romances, then they took the extra character dialogue, then they took some sidequests, then they took away my goddamn ability to reload.

Steelcan wrote...
EA business practices just have a tendency to do that

Yeah.

I hope we don't get another character in the game telling us to buy a quest. That was so not cool in DAO.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:16 .

[Volus Warlord]

Freek on a Leesh wrote...

It's physically painful to know that this thread exists. Not just the opinion expressed in the OP, but the fact that someone actually believed this could spawn rational discussion.

BSN.. rational discussion..

What on God's green earth made you think those go together?

[Steelcan]

Br3ad wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

There is no amount of money I...uh some people wouldn't pay to get their hands on these!

https://encrypted-tb...7TPyRSGVy8vcYwq

Her ****** were huge. First time I saw them I didn't know whether to laugh or shake my head. 

ummmmm

I know what I did....

[Br3admax]

Steelcan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Steel: I didn't mean to annoy you

EA business practices just have a tendency to do that

Don't make the rational people cry, Steelcan. 

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Whitefang131 wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

You could probably do at least five romance DLC packs. #5 being the one with all of the kinky stuff.

1. bad boys 'n' girls

2. sweet things

3. clingers

4. forbidden love

5. freaky non-human fun

Would probably sell like hotcakes, especially if it was Day-1.

What about the classics?

1. Virginal girl next door.
2. Crazy off the wall, let's have it on right here.

I mean, these are BioWare-approved after all.

You forgot the third.

3. The virginal girl next door who really wants to have it right there. 

Catholic Chantry schoolgirl fetish?

I can dig it.

[Plaintiff]

Ravensword wrote...
Again, you speak as if BW should care whether you buy it or not. $90, man!

Any company with a shred of business sense takes notice when it loses customers.

My ninety Australian dollars might not make a big difference to them, but I bet they'd rather have it than not.

I'm doing them a favour by telling them exactly how to make me cough up money. If they want to ignore me, that's their prerogative. I'll give my money to someone else instead.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:17 .

[InvincibleHero]

It adds as much value to the game as you believe it warrants. You have a biased opinion that you think should perhaps prevail over others. They include the options for others that enjoy it and can count on more sales for having the options.

I agree it can be a headache and pandering and catering are hot button issues. However, you can't please everyone and I think BW has handled inclusion of romances acceptably in their games. Leaving it out makes the games poorer IMO even as you think it cuts nothing of import.

[Steelcan]

Br3ad wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Steel: I didn't mean to annoy you

EA business practices just have a tendency to do that

Don't make the rational people cry, Steelcan. 

but then what will I do?

[Ryzaki]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I just assumed Javik was trolling Shep. Saves my brain from the wat.

@Steel: I didn't mean to annoy you

I was genuinely repulsed when that happened. Urg.

Same my first reaction was "wait...what?" then I just went "he's trolling. BW wouldn't have seriously did that as an offhand. Naaah." 

Yes I'm in denial. I do not care. *swims*

@Steelcan: D: you fiend!

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:18 .

[Ravensword]

MissCurlsbel wrote...

Better to have the option of romancing rather than take it away from the player. Dragon Age is all about choices, is it not? If people choose to concentrate more on them rather than the rest of the game, that's their business. Bioware gets the money either way and we continue to get the stories we love to play.

Oh, indeed, but think of how much more money BW will make if they put the romances in a DLC pack.

[Chanda]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I rather think that paid romance DLC would lead to enraged torch-wielding mobs... or, perhaps more likely, a few people buying it and far more people getting pirated versions. Either way, it's bad form to either cancel a distinctive service or start forcing extra money to be paid for it; both will lead to major backlash from too many people for this to be a good idea. And since romance content doesn't take too many resources to make anyway, there's really no loss.

I enjoy romances, others do as well, and the ones who don't enjoy it can simply skip it at no loss to themselves. No harm done.

Piracy is far more difficult on consoles.  It's one of the reasons the industry loves them so much.

And starting something for free and charging for it later is a very common business practice.

And you are thinking SMALL. Right now you have a cheesey little undie rubbing or /fade to black.

If the romances were a full-blown DLC, it would be much more practical to allocate additional resources to them.

Those are actually some really good points. And I hate to say this, but if Bioware started putting out "romance DLCs" I would probably buy them, because... I can't say no to DLCs and I really like the romance part of the games.

But how would you make it work? How would you intergrate it into the rest of the game so that it felt meaningful? Sebastian's romance was really flat to me. Sebastian was rather flat, though. How could you make it work for characters that are already in the game? Say I want to romance Varric, a normal companion in the game, and I buy a romance DLC for him. How would it affect the game and epilogue? And my save imports?

[Steelcan]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

You're pretty much saying that there is only one way that a Bioware game could work, and I should walk if I don't like it. I don't think taking away romances would inconvienience people that much. They can still develop relationships with all of the characters. They can still create fanfics. They can still discuss their favorite characters with like-minded people. There just won't be a sex scene, g.

Then you think badly incorrectly, as you can tell from... well, this thread. I have no intention of making you walk if you don't want to, but if the mere presence of a sidequest you don't enjoy sends you on a frenzy of wanting to ban it, I frankly think you're the one being unreasonable.

I'm not exactly in a frenzy nor am I angry here. I'd like to think that I've been pretty rational here. I'm not attacking anyone. I just want to know this: why is it essential for your favorite character to be in love with the PC? Is that the only way they are enjoyable?

I don't get this sentiment either, my favorite characters in ME were Javik, TIM, Mordin, and Garrus none of which could MaleShep romance.

Modifié par Steelcan, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:19 .