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[wolfhowwl]

Chris Priestly wrote "it is a relatively small percentage of players who actually play them (yes I do have stats to back up this claim, but no, I am not sharing them)."

http://social.biowar...19595/2#5619914

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 02 octobre 2013 - 02:18 .

[Ravensword]

greengoron89 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

It is simple. Do not partake in the romances if you don't wish to romance anyone. It is quite simple. But don't try to take away the experience from people that do want romances in the game.

I disagree. I think people have become too obsessed with romances, to the point where other things like functional gameplay, coherent storytelling, etc. become secondary. They use romances as a form of escapism and wish fulfillment, or exploit romances to serve their political agendas.

I think in order to counter this, romances should simply be removed. People will be forced to appreciate the game for what it is, and not for overemphasized side content.

Hmm, now that I think of it, BW is pretty much known for their romances. Removing them outright might not be a good move. Romances are optional. You don't have to pursue a romance if you don't want to. It's not optional.

That said, Romances should be optional—as in DLC-optional. Yep. I think developing the romances makes the writing process of the characters a bit more complicated than it has to be and the fact that an inordinate amount of time is being spent on what is a tiny part of the game instead of the rest, which is by far infinitely more important than the romances. The romances are just an extra bit of fluff that enhances the experience, and if the writers are gonna poor over such a tiny portion of the game than they should, this extra feature should require the devs to work on after they've finished and polished eveything else. Then BW can be compensated for this extra bit of work that is the romance.

From a business point of view, making romances DLC content would be a brilliant marketing move. You know people would pay top dollar to be able to romance their favorite companions and NPCs. They could also start selling "Romance Packs" for individual characters later... people would lap it up like a dog on a puddle of antifreeze.

Make it happen, EA.

Absolutely, and there's certainly no reason why they shouldn't do this as there is more money to be made on this. Either romances are popular and the majority of players pursue them, or they're not as popular and only a minority of players pursue them. In the case of the latter, the romances should be developed after the main game as been polished and released later.

[Inquisitor Recon]

wolfhowwl wrote...
In a just world people like you would be hung, drawn, and quartered.

Says the furry. You just hope DA:I has some worgen smut don't ya?

[Azaron Nightblade]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Yeah, if it seems like I'm trying to make a claim on what the writers want to do, that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to sort of express the situations caused by the writers inserting romances.  Though like I said, I know there will be romances in there. I am expressing why I feel they shouldn't be. I'm basically on a soapbox right now, and I'm not afraid to admit that.

Fair enough, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
I personally like the romances, if movies, novels and other story intense media can have them why wouldn't RPGs?
Besides, they are hardly the focus of the story and they can be avoided - though in some cases them coming onto you and you having to reject them can be a bit awkward (Anders being the first example that comes to mind).

[Ryzaki]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote "it is a relatively small percentage of players who actually play them (yes I do have stats to back up this claim, but no, I am not sharing them)."

http://social.biowar...19595/2#5619914

Not arguing that I know that.

Arguing the them being a major resource effort. Compared to other side stuff that alot of people don't do. Romances are essentially conversation variants, 2 or 3 extra conversations and 1 animated love scene.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 octobre 2013 - 02:21 .

[Steelcan]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote "it is a relatively small percentage of players who actually play them (yes I do have stats to back up this claim, but no, I am not sharing them)."

http://social.biowar...19595/2#5619914

All I hear is

"I don't like them so I'm going to assume not many other people do"

Stats or gtfo

[Steppenwolf]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

They are examples of the aftermath of romances in games, and the demands that fans make of the writers for the romances before games. 

Fans demand things all the time. You've provided no evidence to support your assertion that the romances are a headache for the writers.

[Ryzaki]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Wrong.

That was the fault of ONE romance thread. The Miranda thread arguing over it's interpretations of the character. That ONE thread about ONE character ruined it for everyone.

The Miranda thread was the final straw. It was not the cause.

Really? Because I saw the same people doing the same crap for months most of the other threads had some bumpy moments but for the most part calmed down.

Heck I saw more fighting over the endings and retake than romances most of the time but *that* wasn't banned from discussion (though IT was).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 octobre 2013 - 02:27 .

[Plaintiff]

They're necessary in a Dragon Age game that is going to get money from me.

Without the ability to roleplay a gay hero and engage in same-sex relationships, there is nothing that makes Dragon Age stand out to me. If I wanted cliche fantasy stories in cliche fantasy worlds, there are a million other products offering exactly that.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 02 octobre 2013 - 02:27 .

[Ravensword]

Plaintiff wrote...

They're necessary in the Dragon Age games that are going to be purchased by me.

Without the ability to roleplay a gay hero and engage in same-sex relationships, there is nothing that makes Dragon Age stand out to me. If I wanted cliche fantasy stories in cliche fantasy worlds, there are a million other products offering exactly that.

Ah, that sentence is overflowing w/ entitlement and extreme self-centeredness. Tell me, do you think that BW gives enough of a damn to pander to only you?

[DatOneFanboy]

Romance are essential cause there some thirsty people out there y'know what i mean How do u think those 'Cam ... Whor... Ladys' make that dough?
But thats not my problem, I think Bioware romances are good icing on the cake And I like them cause they are Fiction they are Well made and touching, Im one of those type of people who dont happen to see too much love in our society its a nice change

[Br3admax]

I don't think BioWare has a monopoly on same-sex relationships in a fantasy setting.

[Angrywolves]

Priestly got mad and locked the ME3 romance thread.
A mistake HE made.
Raven, that's your opinion you're trying to force because you hate romances .
All this thread is Mad Hatters opinions that he feels are facts that should ve implimented.
Won't happen.

[Plaintiff]

Ravensword wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

They're necessary in the Dragon Age games that are going to be purchased by me.

Without the ability to roleplay a gay hero and engage in same-sex relationships, there is nothing that makes Dragon Age stand out to me. If I wanted cliche fantasy stories in cliche fantasy worlds, there are a million other products offering exactly that.

Ah, that sentence is overflowing w/ entitlement and extreme self-centeredness. Tell me, do you think that BW gives enough of a damn to pander to only you?

If they don't care, they don't care. And I save myself $90 for a more interesting product.

[wolfhowwl]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...
In a just world people like you would be hung, drawn, and quartered.

Says the furry. You just hope DA:I has some worgen smut don't ya?

Reported. Account ban requested.

Post referred to ISP for service shutoff.

IP address sent to NSA for arrest.

[Ravensword]

Plaintiff wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

They're necessary in the Dragon Age games that are going to be purchased by me.

Without the ability to roleplay a gay hero and engage in same-sex relationships, there is nothing that makes Dragon Age stand out to me. If I wanted cliche fantasy stories in cliche fantasy worlds, there are a million other products offering exactly that.

Ah, that sentence is overflowing w/ entitlement and extreme self-centeredness. Tell me, do you think that BW gives enough of a damn to pander to only you?

If they don't care, they don't care. And I save myself $90 for a more interesting product.

$90? Jesus ****ing Christ.