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[Inquisitor Recon]

Plaintiff wrote...

They're necessary in a Dragon Age game that is going to get money from me.

Without the ability to roleplay a gay hero and engage in same-sex relationships, there is nothing that makes Dragon Age stand out to me. If I wanted cliche fantasy stories in cliche fantasy worlds, there are a million other products offering exactly that.

I think there are dating sims that would be much more suitable for your priorities.

[Ryzaki]

greengoron89 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

They're necessary in a Dragon Age game that is going to get money from me.

Without the ability to roleplay a gay hero and engage in same-sex relationships, there is nothing that makes Dragon Age stand out to me. If I wanted cliche fantasy stories in cliche fantasy worlds, there are a million other products offering exactly that.

Case in point.

Of course one person is a representitve of the whole 100k+ buyers of the DA series.

Also what is it to you if a few people wouldn't buy it without the romances? Oh noes people don't like a thing for the reason you like it. Call the press!

If the romances are some resource hog that serve very little then fair enough but I have yet to get anyone showing me anything proving they're some resource intensive thing.

[Br3admax]

Except the PC isn't some mythical hero of legend in DA. They are a normal person, in this context. It isn't the same.

[Chanda]

I think the romances are fun. I like them. I'm glad that Bioware gives me the option to play them.

[dreamgazer]

(reads)

Wellp, this is going about the way I'd expect.

[Xilizhra]

I rather think that paid romance DLC would lead to enraged torch-wielding mobs... or, perhaps more likely, a few people buying it and far more people getting pirated versions. Either way, it's bad form to either cancel a distinctive service or start forcing extra money to be paid for it; both will lead to major backlash from too many people for this to be a good idea. And since romance content doesn't take too many resources to make anyway, there's really no loss.

I enjoy romances, others do as well, and the ones who don't enjoy it can simply skip it at no loss to themselves. No harm done.

[Ryzaki]

Also people need to stop mixing up dating sims and visual novels with romances in them. They're not the same. BW games aren't remotely either.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 octobre 2013 - 02:39 .

[Avaflame]

The Mad Hanar wrote...
Romance in video games isn't all that common; there are definitely good games out there that do not involve romance

You realise this is a point FOR having romance in BioWare games, correct?

[Inquisitor Recon]

Add a brothel. There you can get whatever form of romance you desire and not complain on BSN about it.

When you pick the "surprise me" option and the screen turns black you can imagine whatever horrible fetish your heart desires.

[Hellion Rex]

Xilizhra wrote...

I rather think that paid romance DLC would lead to enraged torch-wielding mobs... or, perhaps more likely, a few people buying it and far more people getting pirated versions. Either way, it's bad form to either cancel a distinctive service or start forcing extra money to be paid for it; both will lead to major backlash from too many people for this to be a good idea. And since romance content doesn't take too many resources to make anyway, there's really no loss.

I enjoy romances, others do as well, and the ones who don't enjoy it can simply skip it at no loss to themselves. No harm done.

And I will be leading that mob. 

[d4eaming]

Ryzaki wrote...

Also people need to stop mixing up dating sims and visual novels with romances in them. They're not the same. BW games aren't remotely either.

Oh but how else can they hyper-exaggerate the romance content into a charicature in order to insult and deride the people who like them?

[Hellion Rex]

Faerunner wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

I am the type of person around here that doesn't believe that romances are necessary in the Dragon Age games.

Good for you. Not everyone feels that way.

I am the type of person that believes in adding diverse content so that different people with different interests can enjoy the game.

Thank you.

[Plaintiff]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

They're necessary in a Dragon Age game that is going to get money from me.

Without the ability to roleplay a gay hero and engage in same-sex relationships, there is nothing that makes Dragon Age stand out to me. If I wanted cliche fantasy stories in cliche fantasy worlds, there are a million other products offering exactly that.

I think there are dating sims that would be much more suitable for your priorities.

First of all; even if I was interested in dating sims, virtually none of them have a "gay option", and in the few that do, the "gay option" has much less content and is basically treated as a joke.

Secondly; I am not interested in gay romance stories, or any romance stories period. Nor am I interested in unoriginal fantasy schlock.

It is the combination of the two that piques my curiosity. I don't just want to be gay. I don't just want to kill dragons. I want to be gay and kill dragons at the same time.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 02 octobre 2013 - 02:46 .

[Xilizhra]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Add a brothel. There you can get whatever form of romance you desire and not complain on BSN about it.

When you pick the "surprise me" option and the screen turns black you can imagine whatever horrible fetish your heart desires.

Perhaps this shocks you, but some people actually value emotional development.

I'm more interested in finding the source of the Veil tear and
"correcting" it (preferably with bloody violence). Pixel shagging is the
least of my concerns... as should it be for anyone who cares about the
game beyond their pet waifu.

True story.

Yes, of course. However, there's no reason why one can't do both. The reason I don't play dating sims, aside from a lack of lesbian ones, is that I enjoy the combination of adventure and romance to make a greater whole.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 02 octobre 2013 - 02:43 .

[Volus Warlord]

Xilizhra wrote...

I rather think that paid romance DLC would lead to enraged torch-wielding mobs... or, perhaps more likely, a few people buying it and far more people getting pirated versions. Either way, it's bad form to either cancel a distinctive service or start forcing extra money to be paid for it; both will lead to major backlash from too many people for this to be a good idea. And since romance content doesn't take too many resources to make anyway, there's really no loss.

I enjoy romances, others do as well, and the ones who don't enjoy it can simply skip it at no loss to themselves. No harm done.

Piracy is far more difficult on consoles.  It's one of the reasons the industry loves them so much.

And starting something for free and charging for it later is a very common business practice.

And you are thinking SMALL. Right now you have a cheesey little undie rubbing or /fade to black.

If the romances were a full-blown DLC, it would be much more practical to allocate additional resources to them.

[Hellion Rex]

Plaintiff wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

They're necessary in a Dragon Age game that is going to get money from me.

Without the ability to roleplay a gay hero and engage in same-sex relationships, there is nothing that makes Dragon Age stand out to me. If I wanted cliche fantasy stories in cliche fantasy worlds, there are a million other products offering exactly that.

I think there are dating sims that would be much more suitable for your priorities.

First of all; even if I was interested in dating sims, virtually none of them have a "gay option", and in the few that do, the "gay option" has much less content and is basically treated as a joke.

Secondly; I am not interested in gay romance stories, or any romance stories period. Nor am I interested in unoriginal fantay schlock.

It is the combination of the two that piques my curiosity. I don't just want to be gay. I don't just want to kill dragons. I want to be gay and kill dragons at the same time.

Amen, Plaintiff. Preach it bro!:innocent:

[Ryzaki]

d4eaming wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Also people need to stop mixing up dating sims and visual novels with romances in them. They're not the same. BW games aren't remotely either.

Oh but how else can they hyper-exaggerate the romance content into a charicature in order to insult and deride the people who like them?

The sad thing is there's plenty of very well written romance visual novels but NOPE IT'S A DATING SIM HAHA idiots shout it down. So annoying.

Also I am baffled how they compare the two. Usually in most of the romance novels I played if you don't get an LI you get a horrible death ending (that usually comes out of no ****ing where) or forever alone at best. BW games can be completely completed without a romance and the ending you get usually has squat to do with who you romanced.

Then of course in said romance visual novels and dating sims romance is 70%+ of the content where in BW games romance is about 10%? At most? Being generous. (It's probably closer to 5% considering it's 2 or 3 conversations).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 octobre 2013 - 02:44 .

[Rikketik]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

I think the main issue is that romances for me is that they didn't feel as optional in DA2 as they did in DAO. I couldn't really express that I considered a person a friend without flirting with them. That's how I felt anyways. It feels that romance has become an integral part of creating a friendship in Bioware games.

I just started Act 2 in Dragon Age II and had a talk with Fenris. When he asked me why I even concerned myself with his problems, I completely ignored the flirt option and went straight for the diplomatic option. Guess what it said? "Because we're friends."

Ravensword wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

They're necessary in the Dragon Age games that are going to be purchased by me.

Without
the ability to roleplay a gay hero and engage in same-sex
relationships, there is nothing that makes Dragon Age stand out to me.
If I wanted cliche fantasy stories in cliche fantasy worlds, there are a
million other products offering exactly that.

Ah,
that sentence is overflowing w/ entitlement and extreme
self-centeredness. Tell me, do you think that BW gives enough of a damn
to pander to only you?

Whereas asking BioWare to completely ignore the romances is a very valid request and not self-centered at all from about four to five people on the forums, who really seem to think BioWare might listen to them and ignore the rest of the fanbase.

[Hellion Rex]

TipsLeFedora wrote...

I wonder what type of crazy romances the modding community is going to make....

Oh lord. Especially since the player can be qunari as well now.

[Volus Warlord]

eluvianix wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I rather think that paid romance DLC would lead to enraged torch-wielding mobs... or, perhaps more likely, a few people buying it and far more people getting pirated versions. Either way, it's bad form to either cancel a distinctive service or start forcing extra money to be paid for it; both will lead to major backlash from too many people for this to be a good idea. And since romance content doesn't take too many resources to make anyway, there's really no loss.

I enjoy romances, others do as well, and the ones who don't enjoy it can simply skip it at no loss to themselves. No harm done.

And I will be leading that mob. 

An extra $5-10 isn't torch and pitchfork worthy.

[dreamgazer]

Plaintiff wrote...

I don't just want to be gay. I don't just want to kill dragons. I want to be gay and kill dragons at the same time.

Kinky.