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#176
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Xilizhra wrote...

Oh you saved the Collector Base, have fun turning yourself inot the Alliance because...reasons

Er, stopping a war. It's kind of important with the Reapers bearing down.

Um, wut? 

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Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

That's great. I'm sure the dragon you're trying to kill will be very interested in your sexuality. You can headcanon whatever you want about your PC but that doesn't mean Bioware needs to add options for you or anybody.

Indeed they do not. They also, however, do not need to not add options. I think it's clear by this point which one Bioware prefers.

Railroading and illusions of choice:wizard:

Oh, I do hope so.

And I am getting to the point where I hope that a templar victory, partial or total is the only outcome of the war

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Regardless of the specific nature of a given service, nobody LIKES being made to pay for something that was previously free.

All the complaints against Bioware's DLC practices are born of the (in my opinion, false) presumption that the content would've been in the base game if Bioware wasn't staffed entirely by greedy, selfish, money-grubbing lowlifes or whatever.


While the initial proposition may not seem too great, one must think of the end result. Since you apparently value the romances, what is the harm in directly producing them directly and not as a half baked side project? Think BIG, rather than pigeon-holing your wishes into whatever's already been established.

And the previous complaints about Bioware's DLC's practices are largely irrelevant, as DA:I is a new game and can possibly entail a different sort of practices.

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Xilizhra wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

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Why do people care about how others play their game?


I don't understand how this is automatically a terrible thing. You've never played a Bioware game without romance. How do you know for sure you will not like it?

Why don't you just continue to not do so and stop worrying about other peoples' preferences?


I don't care about people's preferences. I care about the quality of the game, and when the writer's have to spend extra time deciding on the exact perfect way to execute one hour of content, then the other 39 hours will have less focus on them. Even if it's just that little bit.

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I would rather there were no romance threads at all.

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Steelcan wrote...
Oh you saved the Collector Base, have fun turning yourself inot the Alliance because...reasons


Not to mention Cerberus being fully indoctrinated...somehow despite blasting the CB into smitherrines.

Fake Legion was pretty bad too. (Granted it made sense but I hate that thing. Damn fake Legion needs to burn).

Fake Rachni Queen was complete nonsense.

And no I'm not saying ME2 was some mastery of non linearity but heck it wasn't as bad as ME3 (though the herp let me work with Cerberus because they said humans were in trouble was pretty bad especially for sole survivors).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:01 .


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Problem: you don't like romances.
solution :do not initiate romance.

It really is that easy? Yes!

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Xilizhra wrote...

Oh you saved the Collector Base, have fun turning yourself inot the Alliance because...reasons

Er, stopping a war. It's kind of important with the Reapers bearing down.

ummmmm...

 Do you really think that a massively reneagde player is going to give two sh*ts what pisses off the batarians?

Or one who did not complete Arrival

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Inquisitor Recon wrote...
That's great. I'm sure the dragon you're trying to kill will be very interested in your sexuality.

I don't require the dragon to care about or even be aware of my sexuality. What are you talking about?

You can headcanon whatever you want about your PC

With that logic, why would I bother buying any videogames at all? Or movies? Or books? I can already imagine anything I want for absolutely free.

but that doesn't mean Bioware needs to add options for you or anybody.

Bioware doesn't "need" to do anything at all.

I also don't "need" to give them any money.

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Inquisitor Recon wrote...
Regardless, romances should be very low on Bioware's list of priorities.

Who says it isn't? I don't think I've hear a developer say "romances are more important than anything else in the game, including story and gameplay."

For the vast majority of people, romance is the icing, the cake is story and gameplay.

You can have your cake without icing if you prefer, just a lot of us have a sweet tooth.

EDIT: for the record, I would play the game even with out the romances, but I like this feature of Bioware games.

Modifié par Buggirl70, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:03 .


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How bout continue to do/like what you do and let others do/like why they do, if my they like romances more than other components of the game but that's their dealy-o. The writers should know that the main story and gameplay is the main focus of the franchise. Romance is important to some people but not to others. In my opinion I like the romances when they're good. For me, they add more complexity to the story. That's why I love bioware games. But to some they could just be a small little add on that doesn't matter, and that's totally okay. Why ruin the fun for others just because you don't like it ):?

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Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
Oh you saved the Collector Base, have fun turning yourself inot the Alliance because...reasons


Not to mention Cerberus being fully indoctrinated...somehow despite blasting the CB into smitherrines.

Fake Legion was pretty bad too. (Granted it made sense but I hate that thing. Damn fake Legion needs to burn).

Fake Rachni Queen was complete nonsense.

And no I'm not saying ME2 was some mastery of non linearity but heck it wasn't as bad as ME3 (though the herp let me work with Cerberus because they said humans were in trouble was pretty bad especially for sole survivors).


Fake legion did burn :devil: as did the breeder

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Ravensword wrote...

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The romance crowd are a very suggestible and profitable market to tap into. Their obsession with <insert Bioware character here> = mad $$$ for EA. They will buy any romance-related DLC Bioware throws at people without giving it a second thought, short of complaining about it on the forums before buying and playing it anyway.

Imagine, say... a Cullen Romance Pack. That would be a hot seller right off the bat. People will do anything for love...

...even that.


The Cullen Romance Packs would fly off the proverbial shelves. I think you should draft up a proposal.


Hopefully EA is reading this thread and taking notes. Nothing would give me more pleasure than seeing romances being monetized.

I'll be sure to mention it in all future romance-related posts.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

JusticarFlareon wrote...

Why do people care about how others play their game?


I don't understand how this is automatically a terrible thing. You've never played a Bioware game without romance. How do you know for sure you will not like it?

Why don't you just continue to not do so and stop worrying about other peoples' preferences?


I don't care about people's preferences. I care about the quality of the game, and when the writer's have to spend extra time deciding on the exact perfect way to execute one hour of content, then the other 39 hours will have less focus on them. Even if it's just that little bit.

I think that romances add so much more headcanons, fan fics, fan art, and all that stuff due to love for characters. Meaning, people spend a lot more time than just an hour based on those romances. It doesn't even have to be perfect, just something meaningful and that doesn't ****** off people for being half-done.

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Br3ad wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Oh you saved the Collector Base, have fun turning yourself inot the Alliance because...reasons

Er, stopping a war. It's kind of important with the Reapers bearing down.

Um, wut? 


Especially not considering the first place the Reapers blow to smitherrines are the Batarians. :lol:

Also Shep being a rogue with Cerberus has squat to do with the alliance anymore than Balak had to do with the Hedgemony (if they disavowed his actions why couldn't the alliance do the same?) 

Steelcan wrote...

Fake legion did burn [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie] as did the breeder


Well fake Legion doesn't exist in my game so whateves.

Breeder was just dumb though. My poor renedouche.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:04 .


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While the initial proposition may not seem too great, one must think of the end result. Since you apparently value the romances, what is the harm in directly producing them directly and not as a half baked side project? Think BIG, rather than pigeon-holing your wishes into whatever's already been established.

Congratulations on disingenuousness. I happen to think the romances work well enough as they are without needing extra money, especially if you're interested in more than one person.

I don't care about people's preferences. I care about the quality of the game, and when the writer's have to spend extra time deciding on the exact perfect way to execute one hour of content, then the other 39 hours will have less focus on them. Even if it's just that little bit.

If the tiny amount of resources used on this bugs you that much, other companies exist. Hell, I basically only used half of Shepard's content throughout all of ME because I don't take Renegade options, but I'm not complaining to Bioware for putting it in.

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Troll thread?


The title wasn't a giant giant red flag?

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You could probably do at least five romance DLC packs. #5 being the one with all of the kinky stuff.

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Why do I get the impression this thread was made just to see how many pages it could get to before crashing and burning?

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greengoron89 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

The romance crowd are a very suggestible and profitable market to tap into. Their obsession with <insert Bioware character here> = mad $$$ for EA. They will buy any romance-related DLC Bioware throws at people without giving it a second thought, short of complaining about it on the forums before buying and playing it anyway.

Imagine, say... a Cullen Romance Pack. That would be a hot seller right off the bat. People will do anything for love...

...even that.


The Cullen Romance Packs would fly off the proverbial shelves. I think you should draft up a proposal.


Hopefully EA is reading this thread and taking notes. Nothing would give me more pleasure than seeing romances being monetized.

I'll be sure to mention it in all future romance-related posts.


HA. HAHAHAHAHAHA

You realize if the romance DLC does well they'll take more bits of the game (even bits you LIKE) and monentize those too? Like at Dead Space 3 microtransactions.

The more people are willing to pay for it after all. :whistle:

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Why do I get the impression this
thread was made just to see how many pages it could get to before
crashing and burning?


It's pretty transparent.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:06 .


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Volus Warlord wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Regardless of the specific nature of a given service, nobody LIKES being made to pay for something that was previously free.

All the complaints against Bioware's DLC practices are born of the (in my opinion, false) presumption that the content would've been in the base game if Bioware wasn't staffed entirely by greedy, selfish, money-grubbing lowlifes or whatever.


While the initial proposition may not seem too great, one must think of the end result. Since you apparently value the romances, what is the harm in directly producing them directly and not as a half baked side project? Think BIG, rather than pigeon-holing your wishes into whatever's already been established.

And the previous complaints about Bioware's DLC's practices are largely irrelevant, as DA:I is a new game and can possibly entail a different sort of practices.

I have no personal qualms about paying extra for romance content.

But if they were to do that, they would need to do something else to make the base game appeal to me, because I can't buy romance DLC for a game I don't own.

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Xilizhra wrote...

I don't care about people's preferences. I care about the quality of the game, and when the writer's have to spend extra time deciding on the exact perfect way to execute one hour of content, then the other 39 hours will have less focus on them. Even if it's just that little bit.

If the tiny amount of resources used on this bugs you that much, other companies exist. Hell, I basically only used half of Shepard's content throughout all of ME because I don't take Renegade options, but I'm not complaining to Bioware for putting it in.


Now who's undermining people's preferences?

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With that logic, why would I bother buying any videogames at all? Or movies? Or books? I can already imagine anything I want for absolutely free.


Hey, looks like you're getting the idea.
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Pay to play?

Guys, you're essentially turning BioWare into digital pimps.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:06 .


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I am liking the idea of DLC romances even more now. Maybe BioWare could make all the romance-able characters DLC-only. Think Sebastian, but less celibate.