Ce sujet est ferméPopcorn?prostheticlimbs wrote...
This thread amuses me. Watching some of you flounder about...delicious.
Mass Effect 3 $200 million as of Q4 2012, GTA5 quadruple that in 24hrs. Problems?
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Br3ad wrote...
Popcorn?prostheticlimbs wrote...
This thread amuses me. Watching some of you flounder about...delicious.
No, I'm fine feasting on bitter, salty tears.
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What floundering are you talking about?
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Is that a spell from Harry Potter? What does it do?o Ventus wrote...
What kind of reductio absurdum, fallacious non-logic is this?
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It turns any argument into a joke and causes spontaneous facepalms.J. Reezy wrote...
Is that a spell from Harry Potter? What does it do?o Ventus wrote...
What kind of reductio absurdum, fallacious non-logic is this?
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I don't know if it'll go that far. BioWare knows how to sell there games, and I don't think they'll stop making them this way anytime soon. Don't worry just yet.The Night Mammoth wrote...
My problem with action mode is that its presence introduces the possibility of lowering the standard. With a more profit focused mindset, if action mode is more successful than other modes, I'm frightened that such a mode, where the core, the soul of a world like Mass Effect is effectively absent, might become the norm and replace what makes a game truly memorable and even ground-breaking, in the case of ME. I have no problem with it as an addition to the regular mode or modes.
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I showed ME3 to a friend who had never played Mass Effect before. I let him play as my character for a while, and he couldn't really get into it. I figured it might be because he didn't see the game from the beginning, so I had him create his own character and I suggested action mode, mainly because I wanted to see what it was like. He enjoyed the game a little more after that.
It serves it purpose, at the very least.
It serves it purpose, at the very least.
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Lol you cray:lol:Br3ad wrote...
It turns any argument into a joke and causes spontaneous facepalms.J. Reezy wrote...
Is that a spell from Harry Potter? What does it do?o Ventus wrote...
What kind of reductio absurdum, fallacious non-logic is this?
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For what?David7204 wrote...
if they enjoy the gameplay of ME 3, then they enjoy the gameplay. Instead of whining about such people you should be thankful they exist
Oh. Is that supposed to be meaningful to anyone outside of BioWare?considering they doubtless provide a very considerable chunk of the income for BioWare in the first place.
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The sad reality is that the things RPG gamers take for granted as being common or simple features are barriers to entry to many others. And Bioware is not the company anymore that will be satisfied with a niche audience. They'll remove the barriers to entry somehow. As long as it doesn't compromise everyone else's experience, I'm OK with that (that said, I think it did in fact compromise some sections of ME3 already).
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Bioware is fine and the type of games they make are always going to be a smaller fanbase, compared to an "open-world" do-the-****-you-want type game, like Rockstar is famous for.
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It might surprise you to learn that high-quality games require money. Shocking, I know. And BioWare isn't going to get the necessary investment if their games aren't making a return.J. Reezy wrote...
For what?David7204 wrote...
if they enjoy the gameplay of ME 3, then they enjoy the gameplay. Instead of whining about such people you should be thankful they existOh. Is that supposed to be meaningful to anyone outside of BioWare?considering they doubtless provide a very considerable chunk of the income for BioWare in the first place.
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I don't know it'll go that far either, and I'm not greatly worried, truly. I think there's a real trend toward smaller scale and more linear games in the so-called AAA game market, and coupled with the very existence of action mode in a game like ME3, I can't help but feel that little bit of worry for the future.Br3ad wrote...
I don't know if it'll go that far. BioWare knows how to sell there games, and I don't think they'll stop making them this way anytime soon. Don't worry just yet.The Night Mammoth wrote...
My problem with action mode is that its presence introduces the possibility of lowering the standard. With a more profit focused mindset, if action mode is more successful than other modes, I'm frightened that such a mode, where the core, the soul of a world like Mass Effect is effectively absent, might become the norm and replace what makes a game truly memorable and even ground-breaking, in the case of ME. I have no problem with it as an addition to the regular mode or modes.
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David7204 wrote...
It might surprise you to learn that high-quality games require money. Shocking, I know. And BioWare isn't going to get the necessary investment if their games aren't making a return.J. Reezy wrote...
For what?David7204 wrote...
if they enjoy the gameplay of ME 3, then they enjoy the gameplay. Instead of whining about such people you should be thankful they existOh. Is that supposed to be meaningful to anyone outside of BioWare?considering they doubtless provide a very considerable chunk of the income for BioWare in the first place.
Oddly enough, they were doing just fine when they were catering to niche audiences. Or at least making games that niche audiences enjoyed.
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David7204 wrote...
It might surprise you to learn that high-quality games require money. Shocking, I know. And BioWare isn't going to get the necessary investment if their games aren't making a return.J. Reezy wrote...
For what?David7204 wrote...
if they enjoy the gameplay of ME 3, then they enjoy the gameplay. Instead of whining about such people you should be thankful they existOh. Is that supposed to be meaningful to anyone outside of BioWare?considering they doubtless provide a very considerable chunk of the income for BioWare in the first place.
Returns to what? Gamestop?
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Return on the investment...
So Gamestop.
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Used games are a blight, a blight!spirosz wrote...
David7204 wrote...
It might surprise you to learn that high-quality games require money. Shocking, I know. And BioWare isn't going to get the necessary investment if their games aren't making a return.J. Reezy wrote...
For what?David7204 wrote...
if they enjoy the gameplay of ME 3, then they enjoy the gameplay. Instead of whining about such people you should be thankful they existOh. Is that supposed to be meaningful to anyone outside of BioWare?considering they doubtless provide a very considerable chunk of the income for BioWare in the first place.
Returns to what? Gamestop?
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I can't tell if this is a joke or not. You do know what I mean by a return on an investment?spirosz wrote...
So Gamestop.David7204 wrote...
Return on the investment...
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The Night Mammoth wrote...
Used games are a blight, a blight!spirosz wrote...
David7204 wrote...
It might surprise you to learn that high-quality games require money. Shocking, I know. And BioWare isn't going to get the necessary investment if their games aren't making a return.J. Reezy wrote...
For what?David7204 wrote...
if they enjoy the gameplay of ME 3, then they enjoy the gameplay. Instead of whining about such people you should be thankful they existOh. Is that supposed to be meaningful to anyone outside of BioWare?considering they doubtless provide a very considerable chunk of the income for BioWare in the first place.
Returns to what? Gamestop?
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Since the cost of making games has increased exponentially in the last decade, this is really just irrelavent.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Oddly enough, they were doing just fine when they were catering to niche audiences. Or at least making games that niche audiences enjoyed.
You want a high quality game with lots of RPG elements, that takes massive amounts of money. No amount of BSN logic is going to get around that.
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David7204 wrote...
It might surprise you to learn that high-quality games require money.J. Reezy wrote...
For what?David7204 wrote...
if they enjoy the gameplay of ME 3, then they enjoy the gameplay. Instead of whining about such people you should be thankful they existOh. Is that supposed to be meaningful to anyone outside of BioWare?considering they doubtless provide a very considerable chunk of the income for BioWare in the first place.
Am I supposed to care about BioWare or something?
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David7204 wrote...
Since the cost of making games has increased exponentially in the last decade, this is really just irrelavent.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Oddly enough, they were doing just fine when they were catering to niche audiences. Or at least making games that niche audiences enjoyed.
Developing a game has not increased at all.
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David7204 wrote...
Since the cost of making games has increased exponentially in the last decade, this is really just irrelavent.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Oddly enough, they were doing just fine when they were catering to niche audiences. Or at least making games that niche audiences enjoyed.
I'd just like to point out that Mass Effect 1 and Dragon Age: Origins were made in this decade. You know, the games the more nichey people around here enjoy the most.
