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Mass Effect 3 $200 million as of Q4 2012, GTA5 quadruple that in 24hrs. Problems?

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:33

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I'm not going to indulge this nonsense. BioWare is not going to make games with Mass Effect 1 graphics and gameplay. That's the end of it. That time is over. BioWare is thankfully smart enough to realize that regardless of how many people shriek that everything was perfect in ME 1, such a game would in reality be very poorly received.

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:34

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Niche games can still easily attain return on investment. Big publishers have more than that as a goal though. They want successful, predictable formulas (less niche and less experimental the better), and will do all they can to squeeze the most potential return on investment from a game property. And once they have it, they'll crank out as many annual, washed down titles as possible.

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:34

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David7204 wrote...

I'm not going to indulge this nonsense. BioWare is not going to make games with Mass Effect 1 graphics and gameplay. That's the end of it. That time is over.


That isn't relevent to money, that is issue is how talented they are with engines and nutella. 

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:35

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David7204 wrote...

I'm not going to indulge this nonsense. BioWare is not going to make games with Mass Effect 1 graphics and gameplay. That's the end of it. That time is over.

Do I need to point out Indie titles that have been succesful with minimal graphics?

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:35

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David7204 wrote...

I'm not going to indulge this nonsense. BioWare is not going to make games with Mass Effect 1 graphics and gameplay. That's the end of it. That time is over.


That's funny, a friend of mine was telling me the other day about how well the original Mass Effect has aged. Plus the fact that DA2 doesn't look that much better that DAO.

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spirosz wrote...

David7204 wrote...

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Oddly enough, they were doing just fine when they were catering to niche audiences. Or at least making games that niche audiences enjoyed.

Since the cost of making games has increased exponentially in the last decade, this is really just irrelavent.


Developing a game has not increased at all.  

Word. That marketing though...

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:36

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I'm not going to indulge this nonsense. BioWare is not going to make games with Mass Effect 1 graphics and gameplay. That's the end of it. That time is over.


That's funny, a friend of mine was telling me the other day about how well the original Mass Effect has aged. Plus the fact that DA2 doesn't look that much better that DAO.

Do you any actual point to make here? Do you have anything to say to counter me? BioWare isn't making games with ME 1 graphics and gameplay. That's the end of it.

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:36

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I'm not going to indulge this nonsense. BioWare is not going to make games with Mass Effect 1 graphics and gameplay. That's the end of it. That time is over.


That's funny, a friend of mine was telling me the other day about how well the original Mass Effect has aged. Plus the fact that DA2 doesn't look that much better that DAO.


Some older games had better graphics than DA2

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:37

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J. Reezy wrote...

spirosz wrote...

David7204 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Oddly enough, they were doing just fine when they were catering to niche audiences. Or at least making games that niche audiences enjoyed.

Since the cost of making games has increased exponentially in the last decade, this is really just irrelavent.


Developing a game has not increased at all.  

Word. That marketing though...


I've always said they should start lowering their marketing

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:37

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Plus, you know, if I go down to my local gamestop right now Mass Effect will cost more than Mass Effect 3. It's been that way for months. ME3 made a crap load of money, but it's not flying off the shelves any more. It should be interesting to see what that means for future Mass Effect games.

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:37

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They have no reason not to develop a game with the same art style or graphics as ME1 (as certain elements in ME1 look much better than ME3) and gameplay depends on the game they want to make.

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:38

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BioWare has 'no reason' to make a game with better graphics than ME 1?

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:39

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David7204 wrote...

BioWare has 'no reason' to make a game with better graphics than ME 1?


Nope./ 

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:39

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David7204 wrote...

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David7204 wrote...

I'm not going to indulge this nonsense. BioWare is not going to make games with Mass Effect 1 graphics and gameplay. That's the end of it. That time is over.


That's funny, a friend of mine was telling me the other day about how well the original Mass Effect has aged. Plus the fact that DA2 doesn't look that much better that DAO.

Do you any actual point to make here? Do you have anything to say to counter me? BioWare isn't making games with ME 1 graphics and gameplay. That's the end of it.


You're arguing that games cost more money because they need better graphics. They don't. Many people I know love Mass Effect 1 just as much as they love Mass Effect 2. It's more than possible to keep an audience without amazing graphics.

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:40

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AresKeith wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

spirosz wrote...

David7204 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Oddly enough, they were doing just fine when they were catering to niche audiences. Or at least making games that niche audiences enjoyed.

Since the cost of making games has increased exponentially in the last decade, this is really just irrelavent.


Developing a game has not increased at all.  

Word. That marketing though...


I've always said they should start lowering their marketing

A lot of companies do. Marketing shouldn't always take precedence over actual development. Grand Theft Auto V's marketing cost more than its development and I don't think that was necessary. Because it's Grand Theft Auto.

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:41

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David7204 wrote...

BioWare has 'no reason' to make a game with better graphics than ME 1?


Better graphics depends on certain elements.  Sure, character texture is superior in ME3, but look at the grass or water, the sky even - not... so much.  And yes, Bioware can choose what they want to make.  

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:41

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The decision has been made. Whether they're needed or not, BioWare has chosen to work on the graphics.

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:42

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Then I hope they don't pull off another

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:43

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David7204 wrote...

The decision has been made. Whether they're needed or not, BioWare has chosen to work on the graphics.

There is no reason they can't just decide "graphics are not where we need to focus"

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:43

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Oh, are we now under the utterly laughable delusion that gliches and bugs are someone uncommon in video games?

Are we also under the delusion that high graphical games tend to have more bugs then role playing games when the complete opposite is true?

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David7204 wrote...

The decision has been made. Whether they're needed or not, BioWare has chosen to work on the graphics.


And they've created a situation where they have to hope their expanded audience stays with them and their niche audience doesn't leave them. Kind of problematic considering that Mass Effect isn't a GTA or a COD. It won't move record breaking numbers just off of name alone.

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:44

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David7204 wrote...

Oh, are we now under the utterly laughable delusion that gliches and bugs are someone uncommon in video games?

ME3 as a whole was pretty well polished for glitches and bugs.

Omega was not

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:44

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What kind of reductio absurdum, fallacious non-logic is this?

Is that a spell from Harry Potter? What does it do?


It's Latin. It's a logical fallacy in which an argument is taken to an absurd (hint) conclusion with little grounding in reality.

But I can totally see why someone would think it's a magical spell. I did too, at one point.

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I don't even think there's that much of a difference between ME1 and ME3, besides the sense of space. ME3 definitely improved the look of some armor and guns though.

ME2 had more style than either imo, but the graphics were basically the same. I just think the lighting and environments were cooler. Maybe that's just because ME1 and ME3's major hub is just the Citadel.. I think the lighting there is kind of "clinical" and bright.

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Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 02:45

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Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

The decision has been made. Whether they're needed or not, BioWare has chosen to work on the graphics.

There is no reason they can't just decide "graphics are not where we need to focus"

Actually, there's a great many reasons.
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