I was oversimplifying on purpose. There are a lot of reasons the Soviet Union failed, but ultimately what it boiled down to was they spent all their money.Trolldrool wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
The USSR tanked like 23 years ago. I suspect you are the one who is bull****ting.Star fury wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
LOL. The Soviet Union collapsed under the weight of its own starving populace.
Facepalm. Don't write bull****, as I lived in the USSR.
Yeah, and 24 years ago 90% of the world, including economic and history experts were convinced that the Red Menace could last another century. It's easy to say the Soviet Union would have collapsed anyway when you look back on it in hindsight.
Also while the Soviet Union might have been doomed to fail, there was no nationwide famine in the 80s like you imply. If anything, the only thing you've accomplished with this post is to give a perfect example of what happens when someone believes everything they're told by the victors (who write history). Just like the Qunari.
Can we properly disrespect the Qun in DA:I?
#126
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 08:18
#127
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 08:19
Plaintiff wrote...
LOL. The Soviet Union collapsed under the weight of its own starving populace. There was never any legitimate danger of a third world war.
Only if you don't anything about history.
#128
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 08:31
AresKeith wrote...
Beerfish wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
I consider that a plus for the Qunari hating Kirkwall and taking it over
So tolerance, pity, peace and freedom to act as one wishes is only for the Qunari and this from an Arishok who was only beholden to be in krikwall because he was incompetant at findig a book.
And you really can't point the gas at them
Typical qunari response. We gave the gas to the fanatics, we knew the fanatics were going to use ut but we will disavow any responsiblity in their actions. What a load of hog wash.:lol:
If you say so
Your rebuttle is very Arishok like that is for sure.
No answer to a question being posed thus dis the person as if you know something they don't.
Zero decent rebuttles to what I have posted about them as a race/religion whatever you may like to call it.
#129
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 08:36
Beerfish wrote...
Your rebuttle is very Arishok like that is for sure.
Thank you
I thought he was the best character in the game, and that's not saying much
No answer to a question being posed thus dis the person as if you know something they don't.
Zero decent rebuttles to what I have posted about them as a race/religion whatever you may like to call it.
There was question?
#130
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 08:45
Mox Ruuga wrote...
I bet all you outraged Qun fans in this thread would just love to have your characters smile and nod whenever Sebastian, Leliana, Petrice, or any of the other Chantry true believers gave you a piece of their personal "truth", without any way of telling them off, or even giving them a well argued counter, without them always getting in the last word (often with a sneering insult thrown in for a good measure).
That's how it is with us and the Qun. For some reason, our characters lose their brains whenever a Qunbot starts spewing nonsense... It should be finally corrected in DA:I.
You know what I find interesting is that prior to this post, there weren't any "outraged" qun fans in this thread. Pretty much everyone was in favor of letting fans who hate the qun express that opinion.
I myself find the qun to be no better or worse than any of the other societies in Thedas; this world would be a terrible place to live. But everyone playing the game should have the option for their characters to express the desired opinion.
#132
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 09:23
Filament wrote...
I can't take credit for that.Aolbain wrote...
Filament wrote...
I wouldn't think killing one of their triumvirate is very respectful to their religion. He's like their battle pope.
I think thats sort of the point. But I'm so stealing "Battle Pope"
Wat just wat
#133
Guest_Puddi III_*
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 09:27
Guest_Puddi III_*
The Black Divine refuses to be outdone by oxmen.Milan92 wrote...
Filament wrote...
I can't take credit for that.Aolbain wrote...
Filament wrote...
I wouldn't think killing one of their triumvirate is very respectful to their religion. He's like their battle pope.
I think thats sort of the point. But I'm so stealing "Battle Pope"
Wat just wat
#134
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 09:29
Filament wrote...
The Black Divine refuses to be outdone by oxmen.Milan92 wrote...
Filament wrote...
I can't take credit for that.Aolbain wrote...
Filament wrote...
I wouldn't think killing one of their triumvirate is very respectful to their religion. He's like their battle pope.
I think thats sort of the point. But I'm so stealing "Battle Pope"
Wat just wat
That can't be legal.
#135
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 09:32
I wasn't aware there were rules...
#136
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 09:36
Surprised people want to ignore consequence .
Not of course telling the OP to love any race.
He can hate them all if he wants. I don't care.
If/when I play the game I want to see as much as I can in my first playthrough, have access to as much as I can and experience as much as I can.
If the OP wants to limit himself , then so be it.
#137
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 09:48
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
#138
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:21
Dave of Canada wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
LOL. The Soviet Union collapsed under the weight of its own starving populace. There was never any legitimate danger of a third world war.
Only if you don't anything about history.
Somebody doesn't remember the Able Archer war scare, huh?
Anyways, you have about as much chance of disrespecting the Qun as you have of disrespecting the Bing.
#139
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:25
#140
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:28
#141
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:30
AresKeith wrote...
I was waiting for the genocide people to show up
The Qunari must eventually be purged. There is no other way.
#142
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:32
sandalisthemaker wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
I was waiting for the genocide people to show up
The Qunari must eventually be purged. There is no other way.
There's no other way to what? Protect the people of Thedas from learning, racial equality, and proper sanitation?
#143
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:33
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Okay.
Why anyone would ever want to be able to be highly intolerant of a different view than one's own, is beyond me. Being able to show dislike for it is one thing, but straight up hateful intolerance? Something quite else.
Happy?
Because I want to play Indiana Jones.
Qunari. I hate these guys
#144
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:36
Protect it from mass-murdering mind rapist culturally genocidal maniacs who do horrible things to numerous people under their control.Former_Fiend wrote...
sandalisthemaker wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
I was waiting for the genocide people to show up
The Qunari must eventually be purged. There is no other way.
There's no other way to what? Protect the people of Thedas from learning, racial equality, and proper sanitation?
#145
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:37
sandalisthemaker wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
I was waiting for the genocide people to show up
The Qunari must eventually be purged. There is no other way.
You'll never fully get rid of the Qunari
#146
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:37
Former_Fiend wrote...
sandalisthemaker wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
I was waiting for the genocide people to show up
The Qunari must eventually be purged. There is no other way.
There's no other way to what? Protect the people of Thedas from learning, racial equality, and proper sanitation?
Such rose tinted glasses....
The Qunari intend to conquer. They will force the Qun on everyone, and anyone who resists will be slain or qameked. They are not nearly the enlightened beings you make them out to be.
#147
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:38
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
AresKeith wrote...
I was waiting for the genocide people to show up
Me too.
Its especially amusing because these are usually the same people who get mad when you criticize the elves or mages
Modifié par Morocco Mole, 03 octobre 2013 - 11:39 .
#148
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:42
Xilizhra wrote...
Protect it from mass-murdering mind rapist culturally genocidal maniacs who do horrible things to numerous people under their control.Former_Fiend wrote...
sandalisthemaker wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
I was waiting for the genocide people to show up
The Qunari must eventually be purged. There is no other way.
There's no other way to what? Protect the people of Thedas from learning, racial equality, and proper sanitation?
That sentence can just as easily be used to describe Tevinter. Take out the mind rapist part, and you've got Andrastian society as a whole.
Really, it describes them better, because if there is one thing the qunari are not, it's genocidal. They may well want to destroy the cultural identity of the people they conquer, but they don't want to wipe out any people as a whole. That would be too wasteful for them.
#149
Guest_Craig Golightly_*
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:43
Guest_Craig Golightly_*
Otherwise, randomly condemning the Qun (in the absence of Qunari antagonism) seems unnecessary.
Unless one of our companions has a strongly negative opinion of the Qun and the player is permitted to join in his or her adamant hatred.
#150
Posté 03 octobre 2013 - 11:43
Morocco Mole wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
I was waiting for the genocide people to show up
Me too.
Its especially amusing because these are usually the same people who get mad when you criticize the elves or mages
I don't care about elves just mages.





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