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What, pray tell, is "normal?"


I couldn't tell you what "normal" involves other than having some measurable degree of sanity, but I do know what normal isn't:

www.somethingawful.com/weekend-web/bioware-social-forums/ (featuring a cameo appearance by you)

This place is a laughing stock, primarily because of the freaks who congregate in romance threads and forums. You actively contribute to that image.

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greengoron89 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

What, pray tell, is "normal?"


I couldn't tell you what "normal" involves other than having some measurable degree of sanity, but I do know what normal isn't:

www.somethingawful.com/weekend-web/bioware-social-forums/ (featuring a cameo appearance by you)

This place is laughing stock, primarily because of the freaks who congregate in romance threads and forums. You actively contribute to that image.

That is hilarious, especially when the SA people thought that cuteness was a valid reason for mockery. Though I'm proud to contribute.

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No one is scared of sex. I don't know why you still believe that, but no one is afraid of the thing that keeps our, at least I hope our, species surviving. What no one likes, is to hear about the fantasies that some players have over pixelated characters and the arguments that go back in forth in defense of said pixelated characters. It's unhealthy to have such an attachment to triangles. Does that even sound right? Would you go outside and say that you are in love with triangles and that you would die for triangles, or all of the perverse things that you would do to triangles? Does that even sound sane?


got me laughing like a dog:O

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Xilizhra wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

No one is scared of sex. I don't know why you still believe that, but no one is afraid of the thing that keeps our, at least I hope our, species surviving. What no one likes, is to hear about the fantasies that some players have over pixelated characters and the arguments that go back in forth in defense of said pixelated characters. It's unhealthy to have such an attachment to triangles. Does that even sound right? Would you go outside and say that you are in love with triangles and that you would die for triangles, or all of the perverse things that you would do to triangles? Does that even sound sane?

You could say it like that. You could also say the same thing about sex IRL, speaking of unhealthy attachments to barely animate meat, for instance, if you want to reduce that far. The point is that fiction is supposed to engage peoples' emotions and, yes, when that's successful, people may get attached to fictional characters. It's nothing even close to new. Remember when fan outcry actually forced Arthur Conan Doyle to un-kill Sherlock Holmes, even when he really wanted to get out of that series?

No, you aren't supposed to literally fall in love with the characters, or dead meat for that matter. And if anyone were actually in love with Sherlock Holmes, the writer did them a favor that he shouldn't have over turned even in theory. 

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Br3ad wrote...

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Br3ad wrote...

No one is scared of sex. I don't know why you still believe that, but no one is afraid of the thing that keeps our, at least I hope our, species surviving. What no one likes, is to hear about the fantasies that some players have over pixelated characters and the arguments that go back in forth in defense of said pixelated characters. It's unhealthy to have such an attachment to triangles. Does that even sound right? Would you go outside and say that you are in love with triangles and that you would die for triangles, or all of the perverse things that you would do to triangles? Does that even sound sane?

You could say it like that. You could also say the same thing about sex IRL, speaking of unhealthy attachments to barely animate meat, for instance, if you want to reduce that far. The point is that fiction is supposed to engage peoples' emotions and, yes, when that's successful, people may get attached to fictional characters. It's nothing even close to new. Remember when fan outcry actually forced Arthur Conan Doyle to un-kill Sherlock Holmes, even when he really wanted to get out of that series?

No, you aren't supposed to literally fall in love with the characters, or dead meat for that matter. And if anyone were actually in love with Sherlock Holmes, the writer did them a favor that he shouldn't have over turned even in theory. 

Literally, as in do so IRL? No, I don't think I have; they're not really detailed enough for that. But to empathize with my own character who has fallen in love, certainly. If you don't have said emotional attachment, fine; I felt it noticeably less in DAO than in DA2. Just don't attack the people who have it.

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just maybe, he got tired of all the weirdness and flame wars and locked it for the reasons he gave


Might as well lock each section of ME3 forum.  MP thread especially.  The spoiler section had more than it's fair share of "weirdness" or fanatics, as you like to state.  

Also, as much as I dislike someone, to pull those type of personal shots at someone, just makes you look even worse.  


You know as well as I do that the MP forum is by it's definition and the type of posters full of silly memes and stupidity, it always has been, it always will be. 

As to the various spoiler sections, wel that covers the fanatically obsessive and obtuse poster there too, which is also why much of the discussion becomes asinine as we see everytime a thread on certain topics comes up, it's a case of beating a dead horse. 

If you want a particular type of very odd, and sometimes weird converstaion from a few people, you look at certain romance threads, not all of them, but that's where you'll find it.

And trying to legitimise odd posts of certain people by saying "what is normal?" isn't a good idea when they don't have a leg to stand on. So you'll have to indulge me when I take the blunt approach rather than spend hours going round in circles, it's rare I'd engage in a discussion which goes nowhere anymore. 

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Br3ad wrote...

No one is scared of sex. I don't know why you still believe that, but no one is afraid of the thing that keeps our, at least I hope our, species surviving. What no one likes, is to hear about the fantasies that some players have over pixelated characters and the arguments that go back in forth in defense of said pixelated characters. It's unhealthy to have such an attachment to triangles. Does that even sound right? Would you go outside and say that you are in love with triangles and that you would die for triangles, or all of the perverse things that you would do to triangles? Does that even sound sane?

Preach it brother.

It's even creepier when posters get overly excited about polygons like that one guy who described himself as a "cat in heat".

(Shudders)

Modifié par General TSAR, 04 octobre 2013 - 01:47 .


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Xilizhra wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

No one is scared of sex. I don't know why you still believe that, but no one is afraid of the thing that keeps our, at least I hope our, species surviving. What no one likes, is to hear about the fantasies that some players have over pixelated characters and the arguments that go back in forth in defense of said pixelated characters. It's unhealthy to have such an attachment to triangles. Does that even sound right? Would you go outside and say that you are in love with triangles and that you would die for triangles, or all of the perverse things that you would do to triangles? Does that even sound sane?

You could say it like that. You could also say the same thing about sex IRL, speaking of unhealthy attachments to barely animate meat, for instance, if you want to reduce that far. The point is that fiction is supposed to engage peoples' emotions and, yes, when that's successful, people may get attached to fictional characters. It's nothing even close to new. Remember when fan outcry actually forced Arthur Conan Doyle to un-kill Sherlock Holmes, even when he really wanted to get out of that series?

No, you aren't supposed to literally fall in love with the characters, or dead meat for that matter. And if anyone were actually in love with Sherlock Holmes, the writer did them a favor that he shouldn't have over turned even in theory. 

Literally, as in do so IRL? No, I don't think I have; they're not really detailed enough for that. But to empathize with my own character who has fallen in love, certainly. If you don't have said emotional attachment, fine; I felt it noticeably less in DAO than in DA2. Just don't attack the people who have it.

Just like I would for anyone with an emotional problem, if I see someone with an extreme adverse attachment to geometric shapes, I'll suggest that they seek emotional help. If I were in their shoes, I would want someone to do the same for me. There's nothing right about being emotionally attached to a video game character. And when I say right, I mean, "In a state of sanity that would be trust worthy around the general population and is not under the plague of extreme mental distress."

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Just like I would for anyone with an emotional problem, if I see someone with an extreme adverse attachment to geometric shapes, I'll suggest that they seek emotional help. If I were in their shoes, I would want someone to do the same for me. There's nothing right about being emotionally attached to a video game character. And when I say right, I mean, "In a state of sanity that would be trust worthy around the general population and is not under the plague of extreme mental distress."

Define "adverse" attachment. It's certainly never caused me any problems IRL, only in Internet arguments.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Just like I would for anyone with an emotional problem, if I see someone with an extreme adverse attachment to geometric shapes, I'll suggest that they seek emotional help. If I were in their shoes, I would want someone to do the same for me. There's nothing right about being emotionally attached to a video game character. And when I say right, I mean, "In a state of sanity that would be trust worthy around the general population and is not under the plague of extreme mental distress."

Define "adverse" attachment. It's certainly never caused me any problems IRL, only in Internet arguments.


There is the remote possibility that you don't suffer adverse effects because you (and many, MANY others) are not as forthright about your video game attachments to the people in your real life relationships as you are online?

For instance, do you think the Tali sweat guy went up to his chemistry teacher and discussed the structure of alien amino acids and how they would taste when engaging in vigorous "physical" activity? Because if be did, the teacher might bave been legally required have had an intercession to try and get some professional psychiatric  help. 

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 04 octobre 2013 - 01:58 .


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Xilizhra wrote...

Just like I would for anyone with an emotional problem, if I see someone with an extreme adverse attachment to geometric shapes, I'll suggest that they seek emotional help. If I were in their shoes, I would want someone to do the same for me. There's nothing right about being emotionally attached to a video game character. And when I say right, I mean, "In a state of sanity that would be trust worthy around the general population and is not under the plague of extreme mental distress."

Define "adverse" attachment. It's certainly never caused me any problems IRL, only in Internet arguments.

It's an actual disorder. You do know this, right? 

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There is the remote possibility that you don't suffer adverse effects because you (and many, MANY others) are not as forthright with your attachments in your real life relationships?

My girlfriend likes Merrill as much as I do (she prefers others over Liara, but eh), my roommates are also detail-loving nerds, and the subject isn't relevant to anyone else I know, so why would I bring it up? Unless a conversation about the games started in some other way, then I might.

For instance, do you think the Tali sweat guy went up to his chemistry teacher and discussed the structure of alien amino acids and how they would taste when engaging in vigorous "physical" activity? Because if be did, the teacher might bave been legally required have had an intercession to try and get some professional psychiatric help.

I think that's still on the side of ordinary eccentricity unless he started trying to find some way to free Tali from her computerized prison, or something. At that point, it's just a peculiar level of detail in a fantasy world, but still acknowledged as a fantasy world.

It's an actual disorder. You do know this, right?

Ah, of course. We will all trust in you, Internet diagnostician with numerous credentials.

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Br3ad wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Just like I would for anyone with an emotional problem, if I see someone with an extreme adverse attachment to geometric shapes, I'll suggest that they seek emotional help. If I were in their shoes, I would want someone to do the same for me. There's nothing right about being emotionally attached to a video game character. And when I say right, I mean, "In a state of sanity that would be trust worthy around the general population and is not under the plague of extreme mental distress."

Define "adverse" attachment. It's certainly never caused me any problems IRL, only in Internet arguments.

It's an actual disorder. You do know this, right? 

You do know actual disorders tend to be defined by the causing of distress or harm to himself and others, right?

If it hasn't caused him any problems, it's not much of a disorder.

Modifié par Taleroth, 04 octobre 2013 - 02:04 .


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Lettuce be honest here.

Would you really discuss your personal life with strangers or people that can't relate?

If some stranger came up to me and told me about her threesome she had the other day, I'd spit on the ground near her shoe and cuss her off. Just because it's offensive to talk about personal things with strangers.... and because I'm a bit of a dick.

As much as people like to think others care, nobody does. Would you share how you wipe your ass to your friends?

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Taleroth wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Just like I would for anyone with an emotional problem, if I see someone with an extreme adverse attachment to geometric shapes, I'll suggest that they seek emotional help. If I were in their shoes, I would want someone to do the same for me. There's nothing right about being emotionally attached to a video game character. And when I say right, I mean, "In a state of sanity that would be trust worthy around the general population and is not under the plague of extreme mental distress."

Define "adverse" attachment. It's certainly never caused me any problems IRL, only in Internet arguments.

It's an actual disorder. You do know this, right? 

You do know actual disorders tend to be defined by the causing of distress or harm to himself and others, right?

If it hasn't caused him any problems, it's not much of a disorder.

The fact that someone can be emotionally invested in a fictional character should be problem enough. We're not talking about praise here. I mean full on, in love, would die for, love. That does exist for pretty much every BioWare character ever created.

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Bionuts wrote...

Lettuce be honest here.

Would you really discuss your personal life with strangers or people that can't relate?

If some stranger came up to me and told me about her threesome she had the other day, I'd spit on the ground near her shoe and cuss her off. Just because it's offensive to talk about personal things with strangers.... and because I'm a bit of a dick.

As much as people like to think others care, nobody does. Would you share how you wipe your ass to your friends?

If it was an amazing new technique that made money appear on my desk, I might. 

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Bionuts wrote...

Lettuce be honest here.

Would you really discuss your personal life with strangers or people that can't relate?

If some stranger came up to me and told me about her threesome she had the other day, I'd spit on the ground near her shoe and cuss her off. Just because it's offensive to talk about personal things with strangers.... and because I'm a bit of a dick.

As much as people like to think others care, nobody does. Would you share how you wipe your ass to your friends?


Ummmm... who said anything about strangers? People have friends, family and relationships outside of people they know on the Internet. 

EDIT: In fact, going on the Internet and discussing these things, for any and everything to see with people whom you have never even had a face to face conversation with once, is more the definition of going up to a stranger and talking about a three way. 

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Br3ad wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Just like I would for anyone with an emotional problem, if I see someone with an extreme adverse attachment to geometric shapes, I'll suggest that they seek emotional help. If I were in their shoes, I would want someone to do the same for me. There's nothing right about being emotionally attached to a video game character. And when I say right, I mean, "In a state of sanity that would be trust worthy around the general population and is not under the plague of extreme mental distress."

Define "adverse" attachment. It's certainly never caused me any problems IRL, only in Internet arguments.

It's an actual disorder. You do know this, right? 

You do know actual disorders tend to be defined by the causing of distress or harm to himself and others, right?

If it hasn't caused him any problems, it's not much of a disorder.

The fact that someone can be emotionally invested in a fictional character should be problem enough. We're not talking about praise here. I mean full on, in love, would die for, love. That does exist for pretty much every BioWare character ever created.

And... what exactly does this lead to? How can you even die for someone who can't be harmed by anyone in the physical world?

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Br3ad wrote...

The fact that someone can be emotionally invested in a fictional character should be problem enough. We're not talking about praise here. I mean full on, in love, would die for, love. That does exist for pretty much every BioWare character ever created.

What you think "should be" and what is true do not necessarilly coincide. I think people who invert the Y axis should be locked up. Does anyone listen to me? Nooooooooo.

Did the person say they have any intent of dying for a fictional character? Or is that you just putting ideas on them?

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Taleroth wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

The fact that someone can be emotionally invested in a fictional character should be problem enough. We're not talking about praise here. I mean full on, in love, would die for, love. That does exist for pretty much every BioWare character ever created.

What you think "should be" and what is true do not necessarilly coincide. I think people who invert the Y axis should be locked up. Does anyone listen to me? Nooooooooo.

Did the person say they have any intent of dying for a fictional character? Or is that you just putting ideas on them?


I invert the Y axis. 

Come at me, bro.

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The same way that you can fall in love with something that doesn't exist. If you would rather form emotional bonds with fictional characters than actual people, there is a problem. It's that simple. And I don't that BioWare likes to see others talk about their characters as if they were real. No one wants to see their creations used in perverse ways by those who used them to fill the gaps in their life. Not when there are literally billions of people out there who could do the same if even a fraction of the same emotional investment was given,

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Nice to get personal attacks in here. Keep it up guys.

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Taleroth wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

The fact that someone can be emotionally invested in a fictional character should be problem enough. We're not talking about praise here. I mean full on, in love, would die for, love. That does exist for pretty much every BioWare character ever created.

What you think "should be" and what is true do not necessarilly coincide. I think people who invert the Y axis should be locked up. Does anyone listen to me? Nooooooooo.

Did the person say they have any intent of dying for a fictional character? Or is that you just putting ideas on them?

There are fans out there that would gladly sacrifice themselves for their waifus. They are a minority, but a very vocal one. 

Anyway, inverting the Y axis is not a sign of mental distress or emotional neglect. Though I do agree that they should be locked away for life for doing it. 

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Ummmm... who said anything about strangers? People have friends, family and relationships outside of people they know on the Internet. 

EDIT: In fact, going on the Internet and discussing these things, for any and everything to see with people whom you have never even had a face to face conversation with once, is more the definition of going up to a stranger and talking about a three way. 


But since we're not in person, the conversation is not personal. Only if I try to make it so by asking for your name, number, etc.

My point:

I don't consider a threesome to be weird, but there's a time and place to dicuss such things. To any stranger you'll come off as an idiot.

Some people and some situations are not apprporiate to talk about a pixel fetish you have. Just as going around the block telling people about your threesome or pixel fetish will ****** people off.

There's a time and place for everything and most people won't be interested in your pixel fetish. But if it's not affecting your life badly then just keep it to yourself and we're good.

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Br3ad wrote...

The same way that you can fall in love with something that doesn't exist. If you would rather form emotional bonds with fictional characters than actual people, there is a problem. It's that simple. And I don't that BioWare likes to see others talk about their characters as if they were real. No one wants to see their creations used in perverse ways by those who used them to fill the gaps in their life. Not when there are literally billions of people out there who could do the same if even a fraction of the same emotional investment was given,

I have emotional bonds with both, thanks. One does not interfere with the other.