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[Ryzaki]

Morocco Mole wrote...

I'm not.

Most casual gamers are just going to run through the main quest and never do any optional content.

That's really not a good arguement for it's exclusion seeing as most players never even beat the game yet there's still a massive backlash to crappy endings.

Edit: Also as for the oversaturation of romance threads. We have a pittance to discuss about the main plot.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 04 octobre 2013 - 03:39 .

[zMataxa]

General TSAR wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...
While they are one (and probably the most major since they generally cause a lot of what I will say in this post) cause. I don't consider them the only one. Look at any discussion about Bioware. It always goes to romances. Whether you love them or hate them it seems to be romances are the only thing people care to discuss when it comes to Bioware.

And I can see that annoying the writers.

I can't believe I forgot about the OVERSATURATION of Romance Threads. Yeah they are mighty annoying and creepy. 

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Would seem like IT IS TIME for a separate subforum on romances.
This way all the Naysayers/non-interested don't have to be "bothered" by the threads.
In this way, any concerns that  "romance thread - oversaturation" is subverting the action aspect of DA -  is minimized.

[Star fury]

If Bioware is so concerned about creepy fans, then why let players bang almost every companion in ME2? It was called dating sim for reason.

Modifié par Star fury, 04 octobre 2013 - 03:44 .

[n7stormrunner]

Star fury wrote...

If Bioware so concerned about creepy fans, then why let players bang almost every companion in ME2? It was called dating sim for reason.

people don't quite know what that term means? 

[zMataxa]

Star fury wrote...

If Bioware so concerned about creepy fans, then why let players bang almost every companion in ME2? It was called dating sim for reason.

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In addition, why does Bioware have a lonnng-standing tradition of including romances?

[Star fury]

Ryzaki wrote...

Edit: Also as for the oversaturation of romance threads. We have a pittance to discuss about the main plot.

Then create an interesting thread about DAI plot.

[zMataxa]

Morocco Mole wrote...

ME2 is, IMO, when the romances started getting out of hand.

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Glad you added "IMO".
For others, it was quite enjoyable.

[Ryzaki]

Star fury wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Edit: Also as for the oversaturation of romance threads. We have a pittance to discuss about the main plot.

Then create an interesting thread about DAI plot.

About what exactly?

We don't know diddly squat about the plot other than veil tear, red templars and templar/mages (which I've discussed to death already after DA2's release and I usually end up arguing with the same 4 people about the same 4 things). That's exactly my point as to why there's so many romance threads. We have practically nothing else to discuss that hasn't been also been gone over a thousand times by now.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 04 octobre 2013 - 03:49 .

[NUM13ER]

zMataxa wrote...
Would seem like IT IS TIME for a separate subforum on romances.
This way all the Naysayers/non-interested don't have to be "bothered" by the threads.
In this way, any concerns that  "romance thread - oversaturation" is subverting the action aspect of DA -  is minimized.

That actually seems like a simple solution. Let the eh...more vocal shippers have a place to let loose and give fans tired of the talk or simply not interest a means of avoiding the topic to focus on other aspects of the game.

Modifié par NUM13ER, 04 octobre 2013 - 03:46 .

[zMataxa]

Morocco Mole wrote...

ME2 is, IMO, when the romances started getting out of hand.

Would seem like IT IS TIME for a separate subforum on romances.
This way all the Naysayers/non-interested don't have to be "bothered" by the threads.
In this way, any concerns that  "romance thread - oversaturation" is subverting the action aspect of DA -  is minimized.

The internet isn't ready for another romance subforum

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It's a subforum...
Attendance is not mandatory.

[Ryzaki]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Edit: Also as for the oversaturation of romance threads. We have a pittance to discuss about the main plot.

Lol, it's just funny by now. We have absolutely zero to discuss, so we keep coming back to this like a dog to vomit.

Yep. I wish we had another spoiler leak because the constant romance debates are getting old.

[Star fury]

zMataxa wrote...
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In addition, why does Bioware have a lonnng-standing tradition of including romances?

I'm fine with romances in Bioware games excluding ME2 & DA2.

[zMataxa]

NUM13ER wrote...

zMataxa wrote...
Would seem like IT IS TIME for a separate subforum on romances.
This way all the Naysayers/non-interested don't have to be "bothered" by the threads.
In this way, any concerns that  "romance thread - oversaturation" is subverting the action aspect of DA -  is minimized.

That actually seems like a simple solution. Let the eh...more vocal shippers have a place to let loose and give fans tired of the talk or simply not interest a means of avoiding the topic to focus on other aspects of the game.

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Exactly!
It's a compromise.
That way the action guys can focus on their likes.
And we romancers can have both - just in two different places.
Reasonable, no?

[David7204]

It seems to be like half this forum loves to shriek that sex and violence are completely immature, and if BioWare were real, mature, adult, intelligent storytellers like other games, they would abandon them. And the other half loves to shriek that sex and violence make fiction, and if BioWare were real, mature, adult, intelligent storytellers like other games, they would stop bowing down to the moral overlords and include more of them.

[NUM13ER]

Morocco Mole wrote...
The internet isn't ready for another romance subforum

If there's one thing the internet always has far too much room for it's people talking about fictional characters and who they should and should not have sex with. 

Why not just have a sub-forum dedicated to it and be done with the foreplay?

Modifié par NUM13ER, 04 octobre 2013 - 03:50 .

[zMataxa]

Morocco Mole wrote...

zMataxa wrote...

In addition, why does Bioware have a lonnng-standing tradition of including romances?

Romances honestly weren't even a thing until Origins. They existed in previous games of course. But they didn't seem to become a "thing" until that game.

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Bioware romances were there.
Thing is they became more immersive and compelling (with origins) as a result of techno advances and "someone" at Bioware liked making them.

Modifié par zMataxa, 04 octobre 2013 - 03:50 .

[The Six Path of Pain]

Oh, forget the romances! Bioware needs to focus on more important stuff. Like the gameplay and the story.

[MakutaDax]

Angrywolves wrote...

You're confusing this nuanced approach in DAI with his future intentions.
Yes DAI will do romances differently.
Big deal.
Says nothing about Gaider's opinion about romances .
He doesn't like them, probably for the reasons I mentioned .
Not worth it imo to deal with those pitfalls in doing the risque romances when Bethesda did Skyrim and had huge success with the romance headaches.

Well, I was simply responding to your continued mention of the GI article. In the article I've found, Mr. Gaider doesn't say he dislikes the romances or wishes to be rid of them and I have never read anything where he says something along those lines.

Now, if you want to give me a link to something where he says this, I would actually appreciate it. All I know is that from most of what I've read on his blog/twitter account, he's never expressed an active desire to phase romances out of DA. Then again, I'm not an avid follower/reader of blogs, so I could totally be mistaken. lol

Modifié par MakutaDax, 04 octobre 2013 - 03:51 .

[Star fury]

Morocco Mole wrote...

zMataxa wrote...

In addition, why does Bioware have a lonnng-standing tradition of including romances?

Romances honestly weren't even a thing until Origins. They existed in previous games of course. But they didn't seem to become a "thing" until that game.

LMAO. Did you play Baldur's Gate or KOTOR? People are still at each other throats because of Viconia. And there were Bastila, Aribeth, Silk Fox and many more.

[zMataxa]

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

Oh, forget the romances! Bioware needs to focus on more important stuff. Like the gameplay and the story.

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That's the point we romancers are making.
The gameplay and story is richer because of the chemistry because of the romances.
There is a incredibly pasionate group that absolutely loves this.
THere is NO ONE that has done it like Bioware.
And no dating sims don't count.  They don't inlcude action, fanstay, conlfict, blood, elves etc.