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[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Qistina wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote..
Okay, I see what you're saying. Though I don't know if any society V would approve of will be an option in this game. He seemed to be big on democracy, or possibly on benevolent anarchy. I don't know how likely either of those is to work in the context of setting history.

Edit: I do think I can see an Inquisitor being allowed to create a hands-off, liberal government, but not a democratic one. And the last hands-off government we created (un-liberal though it was) didn't really end well.

Democracy or not is not important, what important is how well the system rum. Democracy is not always good, it is good when it is good, there will be a time when it failed. There are many great ancient civilizations, they are not democracy, and some are religious.

What worse is when democracy is a hoax, example, elections have been determined, the candidates are from the elite families, secret societies, we only just a tool to run the system that look like democracy but it really isn't.

Believe me, I know.

So, no matter what system the Inquisitor could establish after removing the old one that failed, that system is good, for certain time, until situation demand changes. It just natural...

I wonder how long we can manage to keep the government honest? It would probably help if there's some form of immortality available to our Inquisitor, but I don't think that'll happen.

[Boycott Bioware]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote..
I wonder how long we can manage to keep the government honest? It would probably help if there's some form of immortality available to our Inquisitor, but I don't think that'll happen.

We can't never keep government honest, that is why it's called GOVERN-ment, it depends on who govern it, if good peoples govern then it will likely be good, if bad peoples govern it will likely goes bad, in anyway good and bad peoples never a factor of a successful government...bad peoples may make good government and so good peoples may make bad government

That is what unique about it...that peoples need to be governed...when there is no working government, then there is chaos...it worse than a failed government, a fail government still govern no matter how bad it is

So, the Inquisitor is likely an anarchist like i mention before, because he/she will have to "save the world from itself" that is by removing the not so well working governments that shape the world, or let it continues and reach its bitter end...

See? So, by removing the working government it will lead to chaos, in that chaos who will take the opportunity?

There will be someone who appear as a reformer, a savior, a Messiah, the one who set things right, the one who is a hero, everybody depends on that someone, he will unite peoples, he will give hope....that someone maybe the devil in disguise or shining angel come from the sky

[Aremce]

To the original question... ^^
As far as I thought about this by now: I tend to prefer a peaceful way. Any party which appears reasonable and works with the Inquisition has my support. But whoever refuses to see reasons and doesn't make compromises will be my enemy.

If it won't work that way ... I guess out of these three the chantry is the least evil (= the most moderate) and would therefore have my support in my first playthrough. I would try out different ways in different playthroughs, though.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Tevinter is a thriving metropolis

Got a good laugh from that. Tevinter is a stagnated wretch. It's people are going hungry in the streets while the upper class horde all the resources for themselves. They've only been losing territory since the blight and qunari challenged them, and are reliant solely on free labor to keep their economy up and running. Remove slavery, and introduce a concept of paid labor, and their entire system falls apart.

That is as far away from thriving as one could possibly be.

[myahele]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Tevinter is a thriving metropolis

Got a good laugh from that. Tevinter is a stagnated wretch. It's people are going hungry in the streets while the upper class horde all the resources for themselves. They've only been losing territory since the blight and qunari challenged them, and are reliant solely on free labor to keep their economy up and running. Remove slavery, and introduce a concept of paid labor, and their entire system falls apart.

That is as far away from thriving as one could possibly be.

I could be wrong, but I think Fenris sister was happier as a slave than when he paid for their freedom? That kinda says alot about Tevinter. On a possitive note, it seems like Tevinter has 3 gigantic golems to protect their capitol. Would love to see that!

[Bleachrude]

The funny thing is...I think most mages would choose the chantry over either the quanari or tevinter.

The quanari are an obvious no-go given that they makes Meredith's restrictions look lenient but even Tevinter, unless you're a super strong mage -Senior Enchanter level at least, you're just grist for the mill...

[dragonflight288]

Bleachrude wrote...

The funny thing is...I think most mages would choose the chantry over either the quanari or tevinter.

The quanari are an obvious no-go given that they makes Meredith's restrictions look lenient but even Tevinter, unless you're a super strong mage -Senior Enchanter level at least, you're just grist for the mill...

Or a slave.

[BronzTrooper]

 I'd let the Chantry crumble.  They essentially strip every right from anyone who is found to have magic.  They also execute anyone who is suspected of using blood magic without any further investigation.  It is also because of them that the Dales fell and thus, nearly destroy the Elves entirely, despite the fact that it was Andraste (the CHANTRY'S prophet) that freed them from slavery and gave them a home.  Not to mention that they think they can spread their religion anywhere without resistance, which ends up causing bigger problems than the 'problems' they are trying to fix.  They even say that the Qunari are essentially evil.  Ugh, religion...  All it does is cause more problems... <_<

That said, I'd help the Circle wipe out the Chantry (the Templars broke off from them so I'm not really going to lose anything), see what the Tevinter Imperium can offer and try to get the aid of the Qunari.  Hell, I might just ask the Imperium if they want to join in on the fun with me and the Circle!  Fitting, isn't it?  Ooh!!  And the Dalish too!!  I'm gonna have some fun!!! 

Now, what would I have the Dwarves and Grey Wardens do...?  Fight darkspawn?  Naah.  Been there.  Done that.  I guess I'd have them slow the demons down.  Hit and run tactics.  Guerrilla warfare.  Yeah.  That'll suffice. 

And now for my plan for world domination... (insert evil laugh here) 

Modifié par Gamer072196, 20 octobre 2013 - 09:43 .

[Chari]

Personally I'd support peaceful solution without needless violence and wars. Or leave things as they are. Just without Fade Gates and demons...
My main Inquistior will be a chantry supporting anti-mages tal-vashoth who hates anarchy... my poor the Warden and Hawke, all their attempts to build peaceful world and save as many people as possible will be annihiliated XD

[Eternal Phoenix]

Gamer072196 wrote...

 I'd let the Chantry crumble.  They essentially strip every right from anyone who is found to have magic.  They also execute anyone who is suspected of using blood magic without any further investigation.  It is also because of them that the Dales fell and thus, nearly destroy the Elves entirely, despite the fact that it was Andraste (the CHANTRY'S prophet) that freed them from slavery and gave them a home.  Not to mention that they think they can spread their religion anywhere without resistance, which ends up causing bigger problems than the 'problems' they are trying to fix.  They even say that the Qunari are essentially evil.  Ugh, religion...  All it does is cause more problems... <_<

That said, I'd help the Circle wipe out the Chantry (the Templars broke off from them so I'm not really going to lose anything), see what the Tevinter Imperium can offer and try to get the aid of the Qunari.  Hell, I might just ask the Imperium if they want to join in on the fun with me and the Circle!  Fitting, isn't it?  Ooh!!  And the Dalish too!!  I'm gonna have some fun!!! 

Now, what would I have the Dwarves and Grey Wardens do...?  Fight darkspawn?  Naah.  Been there.  Done that.  I guess I'd have them slow the demons down.  Hit and run tactics.  Guerrilla warfare.  Yeah.  That'll suffice. 

And now for my plan for world domination... (insert evil laugh here) 

[HiroVoid]

There seems to be people here that thinks the Inquisition is an organization who's function is taking down the chantry, taking the dales, reforming other organizations, and many other functions that don't actually relate to its main goal of demon killing.

[Shark17676]

I'm 110% sure there will be an ending where the entire world comes together in peace and harmony and understanding and equality for all if you play your cards right.

[Angrywolves]

Uh the Inquisitor isn't there to just kill demons .
Cameron Lee used the word freedom, which imo includes things other than just demon killing and rift sealing .
I believe it means bringing a measure of peace to the land of Thedas and that can include killing the Red Templars, ending the Orlesian civil war, ending the elven revolt, reforming the chantry, and other things.
Sorry void doesn't believe that.
shrugs.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Shark17676 wrote...

I'm 110% sure there will be an ending where the entire world comes together in peace and harmony and understanding and equality for all if you play your cards right.

This is Dragon Age. I strongly doubt there will be a 100% perfect ending. Some endings are better or worse, but perfection? No.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 21 octobre 2013 - 02:10 .

[Bleachrude]

I'm honestly wondering how :we support mage freedom because it's a moral right issue can support the quanari (people, they cut the tongues out of mages and collar them like beasts...Meredith and the Gallows are considered the strictest Circle IN_UNIVERSE.

Yet this is nothing compared to the quanari. Meredith literally had to be subjected to evil magic macguffin for YEARS before she matched the quanari attitude. No mage in their right mind would support the quanari.

And again, the Imperial chantry is not much better. All the mages in the circles live comfortable lives (even the Gallows is pretty decent). If you're not a strong mage, you're a slave in the Imperial Chantry and you get to experience ACTUAL slavery instead of the house arrest type deal that mages have in the current circle.

Now...there probably are a few mages that would be attracted to Tevinter but there should be a large majority of mages as disgusted by Tevinter as they are with the current Circle system

[TheLittleTpot]

As I plan to play a Qunari mage, I'm rather stumped at the prospect of exclusively backing ANY of the three factions mentioned. The Tevinter Imperium is out, as the bad blood between them and the Qunari has lasted centuries. The Qunari won't work because, well, they'd cut my tongue out just for speaking....and the Chantry? As if they didn't distrust and/or hate mages and Qunari separately, put those two in a blender and pour the Chantry a Saarebas-slurpee and you'll end up with something they'll really dislike.

I guess I really only have two choices; I'll either put myself in a semi-neutral position and try to resolve all the political squabbles as fairly as possible, or I'll just side with the demons, nuke all of Thedas and call it a day.

[Shark17676]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Shark17676 wrote...

I'm 110% sure there will be an ending where the entire world comes together in peace and harmony and understanding and equality for all if you play your cards right.

This is Dragon Age. I strongly doubt there will be a 100% perfect ending. Some endings are better or worse, but perfection? No.

Oh sure, there may be a blemish here and there, but it's a bit naive to think that there definitely won't be some sort of "best"ending where the world enters a golden age of peace and prosperity, to reward an Inquisitor who put in that amount of work to make it happen.

Modifié par Shark17676, 21 octobre 2013 - 02:13 .

[BronzTrooper]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Gamer072196 wrote...
 Ugh, religion...  All it does is cause more problems... <_<

HA HA HA!!!  That's awesome!

[wcholcombe]

I am gonna jump out on a limb here and say that I fully expect Tevinter/The Chantry/Qunari/Orlais/whoever else to be in perfectly fine shape after DAI is over with. They aren't going to remove any of these players from the field. They supply too much story. I think we may be able to affect some positive changes in some instances, but none of these world players is going anywhere.

BTW, I don't mean to sound like a Chantry defender, but I guess it is just that they seem to be the dog everyone is wanting to kick at the moment, but how is the Chantry any more corrupt in its leadership(not certain what corruption people are referring too btw) then the Tevinter Imperium, Ferelden, Rivaini, Antiva, or the free marches?

[wcholcombe]

Angrywolves wrote...

Uh the Inquisitor isn't there to just kill demons .
Cameron Lee used the word freedom, which imo includes things other than just demon killing and rift sealing .
I believe it means bringing a measure of peace to the land of Thedas and that can include killing the Red Templars, ending the Orlesian civil war, ending the elven revolt, reforming the chantry, and other things.
Sorry void doesn't believe that.
shrugs.

I don't know, in the PAX video they specifically state that your purpose is to seal the holes in the rift. It doesn't say that you can't affect other things like killing Red Templars and Blood Mages, but your primary goal from the PAX video comments is to seal the rifts.

Now the Protagonist in most of us is going to be compelled to make the world a better place at the same time no doubt.