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[KiwiQuiche]

Ravensword wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

The Witcher series has its share of issues. But at least it isn't DA2.

Can't really argue with that, I suppose.

Bionuts wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

You can show love and affection without a godawful, awkward, sex scene.

Keep in mind, you're speaking to an audience that wants to romance anything they like.

You are mistaking sex for romance.

Does it really matter whether people want to romance or **** every companion under the sun?

Yes, because sex and romance are completely different things.

[Dutchess]

crimzontearz wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Well, the Witcher takes it a bit far when you can have sex a few minutes away from the area your friend/girlfriend is being interrogated. With the person who tortured her, no less.

and THAT is why I always picked Roache's path

... You do know that you can also kill her, if you want to?

[Navasha]

I love the Witcher games, but I am not sure DA should ever try to emulate other games. I would prefer games have their own feel to them. There are overall concepts that devs can learn about what people like in games. Like Skyrim, made more than a few developers realize that large explorable worlds are generally well-liked by many players.

There are also a few things in Witcher 2 that I completely disliked as well. For instance, some of the battles with the largest "boss" creatures are QTE. That was really off-putting for me. I didn't mind the QTE for fist-fights.... but for the big combats to completely disregard your skills and abilities and be reduced to being able to hit a button fast enough was a let-down.

[Vilegrim]

StElmo wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

The portrayal of characters.

Witcher does a tremendous job of staying away from the self-righteous PC. Just because someone is in opposition to you doesn't mean they're EVILZMWAHAHAHA!! The need for people to feel morally superior to others is gross like poop.

I also like the "skin is skin" approach that Witcher takes in the story. No matter how powerful you are, no matter what kind of spells you can cast, at the end of the day an arrow through your heart will kill you.

I didn't think DA2 was black and white - felt quite grey to me, but I don't disagree with your core praise of the witcher here either.

DA2 did feel ike it was black vs black, all mages where blood sacrificing abominations, all templars where insane zealots, in both cases the leaders of those organisations where the worst of the bunch, and held the idiot ball alot of the time, we got a very few in either faction who weren't carpet chewingly insane.

[crimzontearz]

renjility wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Well, the Witcher takes it a bit far when you can have sex a few minutes away from the area your friend/girlfriend is being interrogated. With the person who tortured her, no less.

and THAT is why I always picked Roache's path

... You do know that you can also kill her, if you want to?

of course, but the Roache's path always felt more natural, not to mention I hate rebels in general in games so I was VERY glad to side against them at any possible turn


 
And Roache is a good man if you ask me


 
Oh and there is Ves


 

 

 

 
Anyway in topic, Bioware should also look into the whole "different enemies require different tactics to be stopped (which does not equate necessarily to juat different combinations of spells and attacks)

[TheKomandorShepard]

Nothing we had already da 2 full of psychopaths i don't want game where every character is psycho without empathy.

Dragon age should remain dragon age not dragon witcher skyrim effect

[Herr Uhl]

Divergent storyline was neat. The Foltest/Saskia gameplay sections are not something I particularly want.

Edit: Oh, and how to set up an ending that wipes the slate in a subtle manner.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 05 octobre 2013 - 01:27 .

[Rawgrim]

More belivable combat.

[Br3admax]

d-boy15 wrote...

Well...

love scene in TW2 is not romance, it's a causal sex between two peoples.

I think Triss is supposed to actually like you, though. Geralt is another matter. 

[Br3admax]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Why am I not surprised that half this thread is inevitably about sex?

Isn't 5/8 of life about sex? 

[crimzontearz]

Br3ad wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

Well...

love scene in TW2 is not romance, it's a causal sex between two peoples.

I think Triss is supposed to actually like you, though. Geralt is another matter. 

Depends on how you play him

[Nohvarr]

I actually don't want them borrowing much from the Witcher....as I kind of hate all the characters in that game. I can tolerate some more than others but I honestly feel very little attachment to the world or those people in it. For me, I can think back on many fond memories and/or moments from DAO and DA2 but very few come to mind when I turn to the Witcher games.

Oh don't get me wrong, it's well executed and I see why people like it so much but to me...if I want that kind of moral relativism I'll buy it from CDProjekt Red, and not ask Bioware for it.

[The Antagonist]

sex cards

[MisterJB]

Deep, complex, realistic story dealing with backroom politics where conflicts that would make up the majority of the plot in lesser games; for example, a conflict between different social classes; are just another cog in the great machinations of the main players.
Also, character movitation. No character in The Witcher 1 or 2 ever lost his/her mind because of "magic".

Modifié par MisterJB, 05 octobre 2013 - 02:45 .

[crimzontearz]

Saskia lost her mind due to "lesbomancy"


True story

[The Antagonist]

Morocco Mole wrote...

codenamesource wrote...

sex cards

We all know Bioware is jealous that the Witcher thought of that first, my friend.

why so butthurt?

[Mecha Elf]

Ive never played The witcher but I've heard that there's a good choice and consequence system. Hopefully bioware can "take it back again". They sorta lost their touch in that area. So that'd be dandy.

[AlanC9]

Bio was never any good at that. But TW1 isn't any better than typical Bio product. Can't say much  about TW2 since it makes my vidcard explode, but it handles even less in its save imports than the ME games do..

Modifié par AlanC9, 05 octobre 2013 - 03:04 .

[Usergnome]

"One particular element I love about the witcher 2, is how some key characters are not fully explained through self-spoken exposition. Instead, actions and interactions with other characters show them for who they are."

I'd say Flemeth fits the bill pretty well here.

[David7204]

I would gladly take bets that DA:I will be better than the Witcher series, including the next entry.

No, I haven't played it, but I'm confident in the deductions I've made from hearing about it on the BSN.

[duckley]

Enjoyed both games and cant think of anyone thing bioware could take inspiration from and vice versa. Looking forward to Witcher 3

Modifié par duckley, 05 octobre 2013 - 03:34 .

[Usergnome]

Vilegrim wrote...

StElmo wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

The portrayal of characters.

Witcher does a tremendous job of staying away from the self-righteous PC. Just because someone is in opposition to you doesn't mean they're EVILZMWAHAHAHA!! The need for people to feel morally superior to others is gross like poop.

I also like the "skin is skin" approach that Witcher takes in the story. No matter how powerful you are, no matter what kind of spells you can cast, at the end of the day an arrow through your heart will kill you.

I didn't think DA2 was black and white - felt quite grey to me, but I don't disagree with your core praise of the witcher here either.

DA2 did feel ike it was black vs black, all mages where blood sacrificing abominations, all templars where insane zealots, in both cases the leaders of those organisations where the worst of the bunch, and held the idiot ball alot of the time, we got a very few in either faction who weren't carpet chewingly insane.

There were still Templars like Thrask, Cullen, and Keran who were alright. Meredith wasn't even THAT terrible until the Red Lyrium, she rejected the Tranquil Solution after all. Bethany herself said the Circle wasn't that bad (Anders exaggerates) if you behave, and she was actually okay there. The Veil was then there, so you cannot fault her for being far more stict than Greagoire in Ferelden.

As for what DAI can take from the Witcher... Hmm, I'm not really sure. I've never played it, but I've seen youtube videos. I love games that let you fight HUGE enemies, and I'd like to see more than Dragons. See Dragons Dogma; You can fight giant enemies and have fun, and dragons are insane. Other games could learn from that.