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[Borschtbeet]

Why else would they be the only spacefaring species in the galaxy when the present Mass Effect time has dozens of such civilizations?

I think it's plausible that the Protheans were among the first of the galactic civilizations to rise in the last cycle and they used the mass relays to discover and subjugate other sentient species before they could develop and prosper as a starfaring species.

it just seems like too much of a coincidence that there would be only one starfaring species in the galaxy 50 thousand plus years ago yet today there are dozens.

[Handren]

I always wondered about that too, if there were other Species active during the time of the protheans.



Because they obsrved the early humans instead of subjugating them, that might lend itself towards their being the only race sufficiently advanced in the galaxy at that time.

[Legion Blitz]

Perhaps they were the only ones that evolved to such an advanced stage during that time period, or, perhaps, there were other societies that merely chose to live drawn within that they just didn't know about? Here's hoping we get more answers over the course of the next two games.

[Wolverfrog]

Or maybe Protheans meant the same as the Mass Effect Council...

[Krilral]

Apparently they helped the Hanar so i would say they were all right.

[Aedan_Cousland]

There doesn't seem to be any evidence that the Protheans were keeping other races down, though the lack of evidence itself doesn't necessarily rule it out. In game little is known about the Protheans.



I'd guess though that they just happened to be the only race advanced enough at the time to find and use the Mass Relays. The other races were either primitive or were industrialized, but had not yet advanced to the point of having the ability to explore space. The Protheans may also have had something like a Prime Directive, where they tried not to interfere too much in the development of other species they had discovered. (the Hanar being an exception)

[Handren]

Maybe the collectors were active at the same time as the protheans?



that would explain how they have a derelict reaper. One may have been damaged beyond repair during the intial fleet battles between the protheans and the reapers.

[FoFoZem]

http://meforums.biow...forum=144&sp=45

We had a heated discussion on it at the other forum.

I think that they were benevolent. based on a number of highly-speculative assumptions

[Fuzzyrabbit]

What makes you think there weren't others? There are plenty of signs throughout ME1 of other long-gone space-faring species. We just don't know their names. We only know of the protheans because they built and hid special beacons that survived the reaper harvest.



I'd bet the Collectors are as old as the Protheans, they seem as advanced at any rate. They might even have once been rivals. They probably survived the last harvest because they're so isolated from the rest of the galaxy, tucked away in a pocket of space only reachable from the omega-4 relay where noone has ever returned from.



The Thorian from ME1 had absorbed protheans at some point, so that's another sentient species from that time period.

[Handren]

I wonder how the protheans dealt with the Thorian, considering they build the city around it.



Perhaps they made peace with it somehow?

[Stoko981]

Handren wrote...

Maybe the collectors were active at the same time as the protheans?

that would explain how they have a derelict reaper. One may have been damaged beyond repair during the intial fleet battles between the protheans and the reapers.

Makes you wonder if they even had a fleet, or warships. I mean, if they were the only space-faring race and they pretty much had a galaxy-spanning empire, who would they build a fleet to fight?

[marshalleck]

Fuzzyrabbit wrote...

What makes you think there weren't others?

The fact that the Codex says the Protheans never encountered any other space-faring civilization? 

[GnusmasTHX]

Happened in Star Wars... And since it's BioWare, they either stole the idea, or were already aware of the idea and thus didn't use it for originality; making the Protheans benevolent.

[Borschtbeet]

I think perhaps the Protheans didn't subjugate humanity because they felt that they were too primitive to pose any imminent danger and thus it would be a waste of resources.



One thing I do find confusing though is why did the Protheans choose to colonize Mars and not Earth?



Either Mars was more habitable back then for whatever reason or the Protheans had a vested interest in seeing and studying the humans evolve without interference.

Whether this was for malevolent, benevolent, or purely benign reasons is purely speculative.

[Meister Kreig]

They would build a fleet to maintain law and order.

[Handren]

Stoko981 wrote...

Handren wrote...

Maybe the collectors were active at the same time as the protheans?

that would explain how they have a derelict reaper. One may have been damaged beyond repair during the intial fleet battles between the protheans and the reapers.

Makes you wonder if they even had a fleet, or warships. I mean, if they were the only space-faring race and they pretty much had a galaxy-spanning empire, who would they build a fleet to fight?

I wouldn`t go as far to say that the prothen society was completely peaceful and had no separate factions to warrant defense fleets.

Still, they'd be less prepared than the separate races there are now.

[marshalleck]

Borschtbeet wrote...

I think perhaps the Protheans didn't subjugate humanity because they felt that they were too primitive to pose any imminent danger and thus it would be a waste of resources.

One thing I do find confusing though is why did the Protheans choose to colonize Mars and not Earth?

Either Mars was more habitable back then for whatever reason or the Protheans had a vested interest in seeing and studying the humans evolve without interference.
Whether this was for malevolent, benevolent, or purely benign reasons is purely speculative.

First, they didn't "subjugate" humanity because they were interested in studying us, as they are understood to have studied at least one other contemporary species while it was in a primitive state.

Second, they didn't colonize Mars. It was just a research outpost

[Borschtbeet]

Perhaps they did. I imagine the vast armadas of Prothean warships were destroyed fighting off the Reaper invasion.

[Borschtbeet]

marshalleck wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

I think perhaps the Protheans didn't subjugate humanity because they felt that they were too primitive to pose any imminent danger and thus it would be a waste of resources.

One thing I do find confusing though is why did the Protheans choose to colonize Mars and not Earth?

Either Mars was more habitable back then for whatever reason or the Protheans had a vested interest in seeing and studying the humans evolve without interference.
Whether this was for malevolent, benevolent, or purely benign reasons is purely speculative.

First, they didn't "subjugate" humanity because they were interested in studying us, as they are understood to have studied at least one other contemporary species while it was in a primitive state.

Second, they didn't colonize Mars. It was just a research outpost

The question remains though, why didn't they colonize earth?  The living conditions of the citadel and other Prothean colonies suggest that Prothean biology favors an Earth like planet so why the Protheans would neglect such a perfect world because of primitive humans is a mystery.

The Protheans obviously had some sort of interest in our species, enough so to forego colonization of the planet perhaps so what that exact interest was is a curiousity.

[NKKKK]

The Protheans were an alright people, and a lonely people

[GnusmasTHX]

Borschtbeet wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

I think perhaps the Protheans didn't subjugate humanity because they felt that they were too primitive to pose any imminent danger and thus it would be a waste of resources.

One thing I do find confusing though is why did the Protheans choose to colonize Mars and not Earth?

Either Mars was more habitable back then for whatever reason or the Protheans had a vested interest in seeing and studying the humans evolve without interference.
Whether this was for malevolent, benevolent, or purely benign reasons is purely speculative.

First, they didn't "subjugate" humanity because they were interested in studying us, as they are understood to have studied at least one other contemporary species while it was in a primitive state.

Second, they didn't colonize Mars. It was just a research outpost

The question remains though, why didn't they colonize earth?  The living conditions of the citadel and other Prothean colonies suggest that Prothean biology favors an Earth like planet so why the Protheans would neglect such a perfect world because of primitive humans is a mystery.

The Protheans obviously had some sort of interest in our species, enough so to forego colonization of the planet perhaps so what that exact interest was is a curiousity.

Or you know, it WAS curiosity.

You know that old saying, don't sleep where you study primitive life forms.

[RyuKazuha]

What makes you thin, the protheans where only one single race to start with? Maybe they somehow just merged themselves with other spacefaring species wich during their evolution become one. In the visions it sometimes seems, that the protheans where semi-aritficial themselves.
Maybe "their" Council had somewhat overcome the concept of Species, as most species have overcome the concept of Nations after encountering other species, and created kind of a "single" race, with the hel of genetical engineering.

Or the wide diversity of species known to us is simply based on the protheans somewhat uplifting several other species (as it is confirmed for the hanar) including the humans.

As for the studying: There are several worlds where it is forbidden to land by the council, since they've the conditions to bring up sentient species now, why expect them to not have similar rules over garden worlds?

Modifié par RyuKazuha, 19 janvier 2010 - 09:49 .

[Aedan_Cousland]

There were signs of other spacefaring species that were wiped out by the Reapers, but the signs hinted at them being older than the Protheans. I think they were species that were wiped out in earlier cycles. (like the Zeioph)

[marshalleck]

Borschtbeet wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

I think perhaps the Protheans didn't subjugate humanity because they felt that they were too primitive to pose any imminent danger and thus it would be a waste of resources.

One thing I do find confusing though is why did the Protheans choose to colonize Mars and not Earth?

Either Mars was more habitable back then for whatever reason or the Protheans had a vested interest in seeing and studying the humans evolve without interference.
Whether this was for malevolent, benevolent, or purely benign reasons is purely speculative.

First, they didn't "subjugate" humanity because they were interested in studying us, as they are understood to have studied at least one other contemporary species while it was in a primitive state.

Second, they didn't colonize Mars. It was just a research outpost

The question remains though, why didn't they colonize earth?  The living conditions of the citadel and other Prothean colonies suggest that Prothean biology favors an Earth like planet so why the Protheans would neglect such a perfect world because of primitive humans is a mystery.

The Protheans obviously had some sort of interest in our species, enough so to forego colonization of the planet perhaps so what that exact interest was is a curiousity.

Probably because they had what some people refer to as "ethics."

Earth was already occupied by a burgeoning sapient species. There are plenty of other planets in the galaxy that could be colonized. Moving in and exterminating the native population would give them no insight as to how organic life can originate in a galaxy simultaneously on different planets seperated by light years of empty space.

Modifié par marshalleck, 19 janvier 2010 - 09:50 .

[The-Person]

Borschtbeet wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

I think perhaps the Protheans didn't subjugate humanity because they felt that they were too primitive to pose any imminent danger and thus it would be a waste of resources.

One thing I do find confusing though is why did the Protheans choose to colonize Mars and not Earth?

Either Mars was more habitable back then for whatever reason or the Protheans had a vested interest in seeing and studying the humans evolve without interference.
Whether this was for malevolent, benevolent, or purely benign reasons is purely speculative.

First, they didn't "subjugate" humanity because they were interested in studying us, as they are understood to have studied at least one other contemporary species while it was in a primitive state.

Second, they didn't colonize Mars. It was just a research outpost

The question remains though, why didn't they colonize earth?  The living conditions of the citadel and other Prothean colonies suggest that Prothean biology favors an Earth like planet so why the Protheans would neglect such a perfect world because of primitive humans is a mystery.

The Protheans obviously had some sort of interest in our species, enough so to forego colonization of the planet perhaps so what that exact interest was is a curiousity.

They probably saw potential in our species, they saw that we migth become a space faring species.