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Why the M-23 Katana is better than the M-11 Wraith.


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SvM madman wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

Disciple>katana>Wraith>Claymore

fixed

Fixed x2

Modifié par Tokenusername, 07 octobre 2013 - 12:16 .


#27
DrunkenRonin

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Not gonna lie I probably would take the katana before I took the wraith. The wraith just feels and sounds off.

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I can't tell whether OP's trolling or not.

If he isn't, this is The Stupidest Thread of the Week®. If he is, this is still The Stupidest Thread of the Week®.

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Slow day BSN?

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Katana has a cooler sound when fired.


Like a nailgun?

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It seems to me that the M-23 Katana has a material advantage.

It looks realer than the Wraith.


Also, since it's pellets go wider it can hit more targets. All of those are positive things.

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Katana is best because it makes that KCHNK sound when you bring it out.

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I prefer the Wraith. Probably because if I don't, I'll go crazy from having gotten it to VIII.

Although the Katana does fire faster, it does mean you have to expose yourself longer.

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i love my Wraith X.

It looks good on all my characters

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Tokenusername wrote...

SvM madman wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

Disciple>katana>Wraith>Claymore

fixed

Fixed x2


http://social.biowar...ndex/15952954/1

ahhh such memories....

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Gladerunner wrote...

I prefer the Wraith. Probably because if I don't, I'll go crazy from having gotten it to VIII.

Although the Katana does fire faster, it does mean you have to expose yourself longer.


But soft cover helps....

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I like the Eviscerator better though.

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Both are viable on plat, but with Katana you'll want to marry an ammo box.

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Did myself a newb challenge a while ago... using only a level 1 vanilla character (Human Infil) with only a common weapon (Katana), no gear, no equipment, no weapons mods, on Bronze, solo... just basically to see if the game is "hard" now for newbies.

It was painful soloing, it takes so very, very long to kill Banshees, even on Bronze, with an un-modded Katana with no equipment - even if that Katana is level X.

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GordianKnot42 wrote...

I tried to make the Katana work after a long time. Same with Scimitar. Can anyone think of a kit or reason where you'd want to take Katana or Scimitar over Piranha (or Wraith for slightly more accuracy)?

Scimitar on the Cryo Concussive Shot Soldier is pretty good actually. Low CD so you can spam CS, fast accurate and good proccing. Most of your damage is coming from CS and the Talon does a better job but the Scimitar is fun on that build. Katana is alright on the GI or probably the AIU.

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OperatingWookie wrote...

First, despite the greater raw damage of the wraith, the M-23 Katana fires faster.

Second, The M-23 Katana holds more ammo, unlike the wraith.

Third, the M-23 Katana is freely available to all and not hidden to us by the vengeful RNG, unlike the wraith.

Fourth, the M-23 Katana has a faster refire time, unlike the wraith.

Fifth, the M-23 Katana is easy to upgrade, unlike the wraith.

Sixth, the M-23 Katana is true to the appearance of shotguns throughout the trilogy, unlike the magically invented wraith. Like the scimitar, it's been there since the beginning.

Seventh, the M-23 Katana has a bigger clip.

Eighth, both weapons are perfectly viable on gold.

"Ninth, the Katana's M is over twice the Wraith's. QED



1) Well, you need to have a greater rate of fire, since the Katana tickles people, while the wraith makes em dead! Especially if you need more time dispensing your ammo on the enemy, you are exposing yourself for a longer time. So, a slower rate of fire can even be beneficial to your survival. Rate of Fire does not equal Firepower.

2) I have not yet managed to get rid of my ammunition on my wraith and find myself in a situation where I couldn´t use one of my 255 ammo packs or simply go to the ammo box to replenish on grenades. Since the Wraith has still greater ammo efficiency, than the tickle-Katana, this is not a good argument. Any SMG holds more ammunition than the wraith. Would you prefer the Shuriken over the Wraith?

3) My Wraith-X disagrees.

4)  See my Point 1. People hit with a wraith stay down. People hit by a katana start laughing.

5) See my Point 3. XD Ok, well, I sort of agree. Still, I´d prefer a Wraith I over a Katana X.

6) Well, if you go by that argument, Mass Effect 2 and 3 are both fraud, since they came after Mass Effect I. How is technical advancement a fraud?
    
7) So has the Typhoon, Shuriken, Predator. About any Weapon has.

8) Well, true, I guess. So because BOTH weapons are cool, one of them is better? How is this an argument?

9) Katana M? "M" as in Millenia? I am utterly confused what this is about.

For clarification: I don´t care what weapon you wield, and I am not converting anyone here, at least not trying. But seriously, disliking the Wraith does not make the Katana superior.

Modifié par Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout, 11 octobre 2013 - 01:49 .


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DrunkenRonin wrote...

Not gonna lie I probably would take the katana before I took the wraith. The wraith just feels and sounds off.


The key for the Wraith is to accept the refire delay as a chance to take soft cover.

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I will not simply stand by while you slander Our Lady Wraith, I challenge you to fisticuffs.

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Lord Claymore has indigestion

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Wait wat?????

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Aedolon wrote...

I can't tell whether OP's trolling or not.

If he isn't, this is The Stupidest Thread of the Week®. If he is, this is still The Stupidest Thread of the Week®.


^

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I could actually see the Katana giving the Wraith a run for its money on Bronze & Silver, just for all the reason listed.

Even on gold maybe... if the the player was smart enough to steer clear of getting wrapped up in lengthy boss battles, and instead focused their efforts on mook killing.

But the wraith is a significantly better gun for platinum.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

You forgot the most important reason:

Katana starts with K, Wraith starts with W. K goes before W.