Davrel wrote...
Vit246 wrote...
Davrel wrote...
The arrogance in this thread.
"Not me bro, my iron will wouldn't let anyone tell me what to do. I'd break free and beat up the whole Qun in the name of freedom and liberty."
What about the Tal-Vashoth then?
There are no Tal-Vashoth in this thread. Only modern gamers who think they're so clever and classless and free.
What do you think the Qunari spend the first twelve years doing?`I don't think Qunari spend a lot of time "being a child", Sten for example shows bewilderment at young human children running around playing. So already from an early age the Qunari are educated. During this time, a young QUnari who aspires to be a soldier, would probably be more motivated during the soldier related education, and thus also learn about it better. remember the Qunari believes in selective breeding, and it must have garnered some clear results, otherwise they wouldn't continue it. So chances are this young boy would also be physically fit for a soldiers work.Gwydden wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Are you under the impression that I was? Cause I wasn't. The only characters in fantasy who holds any hope of advancement in any shape or form, are the ones with relevance to the plot. But for every plot relevant character, there are thousands, even millions, of faceless peasants who are there simply as cannonfoder for the story. Don't try and pass off fantasy genre as some kind of "equal oppertunity" utopia...
It's not. People can still advance in society. It's very difficult and it depends mostly on luck, but it is possible. You can also be something different. One problem I have with the Qun is that how can you be so sure that someone you decided would be a soldier wouldn't be an even better merchant? Also, that you're good at something doesn't mean you like it. Back in high school they used to tell me I was good at math, but I thought it was the most boring thing on Earth.
Also, in a world like Thedas, the average qunari probably lives better than the average human.The Qun is not so different from the Circles in concept. The freedoms of the individuals are restricted for the benefit of the majority. However, there are always people who wish something different for their lives. Not necessarily better, like so many think. Just different. And so apostates and Tal Vashoth are born.
Ultimately, it comes down to personal preference. Some would give up some freedom in exchange for safety and stability. Others wouldn't.
Most of us are expressing part wish, part expectation. Which for the purpose of the OP's presented exercise is exactly what he asked of us.sandalisthemaker wrote...
Davrel wrote...
Vit246 wrote...
Davrel wrote...
The arrogance in this thread.
"Not me bro, my iron will wouldn't let anyone tell me what to do. I'd break free and beat up the whole Qun in the name of freedom and liberty."
What about the Tal-Vashoth then?
There are no Tal-Vashoth in this thread. Only modern gamers who think they're so clever and classless and free.
And what of all the Qunari lovers who just assume they will be noble warriors within the Qun?
Guest_mikeucrazy_*
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
After all, it is not like the Qunari are emtionless mute husks until age 12. They have hopes and dreams as any child, and possibly far better chances of realizing their dreams, than even we in our world do.
Ah yes, your baseless prejudice towards ideologies different than you own...sandalisthemaker wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
After all, it is not like the Qunari are emtionless mute husks until age 12. They have hopes and dreams as any child, and possibly far better chances of realizing their dreams, than even we in our world do.
Their "education" probably does render them mute and emotionless husks until age 12.
"Hopes" and "dreams" don't really lend themselves to the "Certainty" of the Qun, and such whimsy is most likely quashed at an early age by said education.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Ah yes, your baseless prejudice towards ideologies different than you own...sandalisthemaker wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
After all, it is not like the Qunari are emtionless mute husks until age 12. They have hopes and dreams as any child, and possibly far better chances of realizing their dreams, than even we in our world do.
Their "education" probably does render them mute and emotionless husks until age 12.
"Hopes" and "dreams" don't really lend themselves to the "Certainty" of the Qun, and such whimsy is most likely quashed at an early age by said education.
"Stop paying attention to what is explicitly stated by high-ranking members of the Qun, including a member of their triumvirate, and start agreeing with the **** I make up that is based on nothing!"EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Ah yes, your baseless prejudice towards ideologies different than you own...sandalisthemaker wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
After all, it is not like the Qunari are emtionless mute husks until age 12. They have hopes and dreams as any child, and possibly far better chances of realizing their dreams, than even we in our world do.
Their "education" probably does render them mute and emotionless husks until age 12.
"Hopes" and "dreams" don't really lend themselves to the "Certainty" of the Qun, and such whimsy is most likely quashed at an early age by said education.
Plaintiff wrote...
"Stop paying attention to what is explicitly stated by high-ranking members of the Qun, including a member of their triumvirate, and start agreeing with the **** I make up that is based on nothing!"EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Ah yes, your baseless prejudice towards ideologies different than you own...sandalisthemaker wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
After all, it is not like the Qunari are emtionless mute husks until age 12. They have hopes and dreams as any child, and possibly far better chances of realizing their dreams, than even we in our world do.
Their "education" probably does render them mute and emotionless husks until age 12.
"Hopes" and "dreams" don't really lend themselves to the "Certainty" of the Qun, and such whimsy is most likely quashed at an early age by said education.
Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 08 octobre 2013 - 12:06 .
Well, I was denied Catholic confirmation because I openly sympathized with Satan and said he'd gotten a raw deal back when I was younger (and mentioned to my religious education teacher something I'd learned about humans being physically made of matter that was once part of stars), so take that for what you will. Also, you used "qamek" as a verb there, not a noun.EmperorSahlertz wrote...
She isn't saying she'd necessarily be a mage, but that her ideals and morals are bred in her by nature and not by society. Thus even if brought up in a completely different society with different norms and values, she would still be the exact same person. And since she holds an intense hatred of anyhting Qun, she would not fit in, and would either end up Tal-Vasoth and probably killed, or get Qamek'ed (yeah, its a noun now).Former_Fiend wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
I just said that my place would be getting horribly killed. In any case, it's not like what you said is unprecedented.Davrel wrote...
The arrogance in this thread.
"Not me bro, my iron will wouldn't let anyone tell me what to do. I'd break free and beat up the whole Qun in the name of freedom and liberty."
My question is what makes you so sure you'd be a mage?
dragonflight288 wrote...
My place in the Qun would likely be having my mind completely destroyed and all semblance of my personality erased and I become a mindless shell because I would refuse to convert, and would rather choose my own path.
Guest_Craig Golightly_*
Modifié par MasterScribe, 08 octobre 2013 - 01:47 .
Volus Warlord wrote...
dragonflight288 wrote...
My place in the Qun would likely be having my mind completely destroyed and all semblance of my personality erased and I become a mindless shell because I would refuse to convert, and would rather choose my own path.
I would probably be the one "disciplining" such idiocy.
Modifié par RedArmyShogun, 08 octobre 2013 - 01:48 .
Guest_Puddi III_*
krul2k wrote...
You wont be in The Qun and hopefully will never be able to join it unless the game is solely based around it
Filament wrote...
Probably a baker, same as half the other qunari ever since Sten became Arishok.
Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 08 octobre 2013 - 04:02 .
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