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[anakin5]

Ser Jory gain some bow tree skills after a save/load. When he join the party, he get talents in the warrior tree and 2H weapons. (5-6 points)
If you save the game then reload this save, open jory's talent page, he now have 5 more talents in the bow tree.

Does anyone notice this ?

Modifié par anakin5, 02 février 2010 - 07:32 .

[anakin5]

I add that the bow spells are not present in the savegame, so these new talents are added when loaded the savegame.

[Arundor]

I noticed this as well. I've tested with various different characters and saves, Jory always starts without archery talents, then magically gains them as soon as I save/reload. It is also odd that his new talents skip some of the prerequisites. He gains Aim and Defense Fire even though he doesn't gain the prerequisite Melee Archer. He also gains Crippling Shot and Critical Shot without having Pinning Shot.

I'm using patch 1.02a, if it matters.

Modifié par Arundor, 21 janvier 2010 - 06:20 .

[anakin5]

Bump because it need a fix ^^ or at least an clue to mod it.

[JosieJ]

I thought he was supposed to have the bow talents (despite not having the prereqs for some). He's had them in every playthrough I've played--except the last. For some reason, he didn't have any bow talents the last time I played that part.

So I guess I'm wondering if the bug is that he had the bow talents all the other times, or is it that he didn't have them this time?

Modifié par JosieJ, 21 janvier 2010 - 04:09 .

[anakin5]

The bug is having them. I can't say it better than Macabre-13 :

That is very strange indeed. It seems like a common occurance, and it also seems people have just accepted it as part of Jory's natural, intended abilities, but I beg to differ. If you check his talents page as soon as you acquire him, he does not have any of those ranger talents. Only upon saving then reloading the game will he then magically acquire the talents, which to me, proves it's a bug, and unintended by the developers (especially due to the fact that it makes very little sense, as he does not have the proper dex, is missing 2 pre-requisite talents, and also would put him well beyond a typical level 3 warrior's capabilities).

[anakin5]

bump (to not fall at the never read 10th page)

[JosieJ]

Hmm, the wiki seems to take the fact that he has archery talents as a given.

I know, I know, wikis aren't always accurate.  But I'm thinking this shows the issue is widespread enough to be almost routine.

Modifié par JosieJ, 22 janvier 2010 - 12:27 .

[anakin5]

Yes, but I didn't find any post on this issue (it is a bug, the wiki is wrong).



Because I am sure there is people from Bioware who try to fix bugs, I found it is a good idea to reveal it publicly.

I will bump this thread until

a) I fix it by myself

a patch fix it

or c) A bioware dev team member say : "we know, we are working on it"

[anakin5]

up, Jory, Fenarel and Merrill are concerned. It comes from their initial model talent.

[anakin5]

Jowan : Heal, Flame Blast, Winters Grasp, Walking Bomb
Lily : Shield Block, Shield Defense
Merril : Heal, Stonefist, Winters Grasp
Fenarel : Rapidshot, Scattershot, Shield Balance, Shield Block
Jory : Aim, Crippling Shot, Critical Shot, Defensive Fire, Rapidshot
Tierna Eleanor : Precise Striking, Shield Bash, Shield Pummel
Gorim : Powerful, Shield Balance, Shield Bash, Shield Block, Shield Pummel
Leske : Dirty Fighting, Stealth, Dual weapon Double strike, Dual weapon Training
Mouse : Misdirection Hex, Winters Grasp
Soris : Precise Striking, Shield Block, Shield Defense
Tamlen : Aim, Rapidshot, Precise Striking, Dual Weapon double strike, Dual weapon Training

Modifié par anakin5, 02 février 2010 - 07:31 .

[Kepha]

Don't take this the wrong way, but if Jory and the others aren't broken, they just get extra talents, which can be used or not used, I'm not really sure why it "needs a fix". Yes its a bug, but in the grand scheme of bugs its a pretty minor one.

[anakin5]

They don't get theses talents if you don't save/reload the game while they are in your party.

If they are supposed to have these abilities, the bug is that they don't have it when they first join your party.

If they are not supposed to have theses abilities, the bug is that they have it after a save/load.



If someone like sorting bugs, yes it is a minor bugs. It is its belonging to the "bug" category that make it had to be fixed. Its belonging to the "minor" category should only be matter of time before being fixed