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[MysticSpace]

I don't care which game you choose ME1, ME2, or ME3.  You can choose one of the big bads, (Cerberus or Reapers) Little bads ( One timers from sidequest or from ME2), or even special bads (from DLC). It's close for me, TIM's plan to control reapers with reaper bluetooth tech installed in his face puts him in second place for me. I assume that it might have controlled husks, for whatever good that would've done, but now we'll never know. 

The winner/loser for me is with Citadel's Brooks. At least TIM had indoctrination as an excuse but Brooks? Her plan was to pretend she was incomptent and hope that Shepard wasn't as hard to kill as all the reports claimed so that she can steal her Spectre status and the Normandy? The Normandy I can see but what the hell was she going to do with it? It's an alliance ship and I'm betting that they can track it, if not then where was she going to go to refuel it?  Illium? Under Reaper attack, Earth? Yeah good luck find a dock not blown up or covered in husks. Omega? Might work for awile but depends on how long the clone can fool Aria and I doubt that'll work with a Paragon Shepard and Aria has Shepard's biometrics onfile (remember in ME2?) As for Spectre status, what good is that in the middle of a war with Cthullian spaceships?  She's going to use the status to get a discount at the few stores not looted on Earth?  Oh well, what do you guys think?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Aria has Shepard's original palm print on file. Bye Bye clone. You forget how paranoid Aria is.

Then there's the fact that the only character in the game who is less heroic than the real Commander Shepard is Shepard's clone. So I'll have to go with Shepard's clone. That one is born to lose.

The most heroic character in the entire trilogy? Tali.

[Baihu1983]

Hackett.

[ThinkSharp]

Father Kyle.

Crazy man with a messiah complex brainwashes a volatile group and keeps them in an isolated compound. Kills the officials sent to investigate and hopes no one will notice? Great plan. Has always worked across history thus far.

[SSV Enterprise]

Gavin Archer. Yeah, let's hook your unstable autistic brother up to the VI program for controlling the geth. I'm sure that will turn out well.

[The Night Mammoth]

Wow, there are so many candidates. Pretty much every single villain in the whole series had a terrible plan.

[ThinkSharp]

StreetMagic wrote...

ThinkSharp wrote...

Father Kyle.

Crazy man with a messiah complex brainwashes a volatile group and keeps them in an isolated compound. Kills the officials sent to investigate and hopes no one will notice? Great plan. Has always worked across history thus far.

I kind of headcanon that story with my Vanguard Shep (Ruthless) scaring the hell out of Kyle at Torfan. So he started that cult to help biotics never go down the same bloody path of destruction.

Interesting. And ironic.

[David7204]

'Brainwashing,' huh?

[Dieb]

Tela Vasir.

Bonus points for giving me the supposedly moral-striking speech about collaborating with Cerberus being the same thing as actively murdering civillians.

David7204 wrote...

'Brainwashing,' huh?

Let's just not go there, shall we?

Modifié par Baelrahn, 08 octobre 2013 - 08:45 .

[Kataphrut94]

How could we forget Warden Kuril from Jack's recruitment mission?

"Hey Shepard, you're a valuable man, so could you please get in this cell for me? Pretty please? No, put those weapons that we were too lazy to confiscate down!"

Also, Wilson from the start of ME2.

"I've just invented a cure for death! This will make me the richest, most powerful and most beloved man in the galaxy! I know what I'll do; I'll set the security mechs to blow everything up, kill the only test subject and turn the mechs on before I've actually escaped the station. Genius!"

[David7204]

Lazarus is not a cure for death.

[Kataphrut94]

David7204 wrote...

Lazarus is not a cure for death.

Shepard was dead and they fixed him, simple as that. If it can work on a man who was 'mostly meat and tubes', it could just as easily work on a normal cadaver.

Either way, you're missing the point. The point is that the technology is extremely beneficial and valuable, and Wilson just went and blew it up for no good reason. That is why he is the villain with the worst plan.

[AlexMBrennan]

Her plan was to pretend she was incomptent and hope that Shepard wasn't as hard to kill as all the reports claimed

Gameplay and story segregation: Contrary to what you see in the game, Shepard can't single-handedly wipe out armoured divisions.

so that she can steal her Spectre status and the Normandy? The Normandy I can see but what the hell was she going to do with it? It's an alliance ship and I'm betting that they can track it

Did you miss the bit about the clone impersonating Shepard? The Alliance would have no reason to track down the Normandy because, as far as they know, everything is in order; if it hadn't been for Glyph magically being able to open the vault (seriously, what kind of security is that? I can buy spectres being able to access them, but any random drone?) then the plan would have worked. .

Omega? Might work for awile but depends on how long the clone can fool Aria

Omega is overrun by Cerberus forces, and it wouldn't be a stretch for Aria to end up killed in action trying to reclaim it.

As for Spectre status, what good is that in the middle of a war with Cthullian spaceships?

First beat the Reapers (making sure that those alien scum take the brunt of the losses in any engagement), then use Spectre influence to establish human dominance. Simples.

Re OP: Kenson - her plan would have worked brilliantly if she had done literally anything but bring Shepard to her base.

Runner up: Harbinger - his obsession with Shepard is utterly stupid, his tactics are stupid (first blow Shepard up and hire the SB to make sure the corpse is really dead, then go out of his way to take Shepard alive) and he has the attention span of a goldfish (first leave a trapped IFF around, but later forget about it when that very same IFF is used to try and access the Omega 4 relay... )

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 08 octobre 2013 - 09:07 .

[MysticSpace]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Wow, there are so many candidates. Pretty much every single villain in the whole series had a terrible plan.

True, I'm still scratching my head over dr. Saleon in ME1 you hunt down with Garrus. He must have worked at Surkesh's version of Umbrella or something. 

[cooldonkeyfish]

Kataphrut94 wrote...

How could we forget Warden Kuril from Jack's recruitment mission?

"Hey Shepard, you're a valuable man, so could you please get in this cell for me? Pretty please? No, put those weapons that we were too lazy to confiscate down!"

Also, Wilson from the start of ME2.

"I've just invented a cure for death! This will make me the richest, most powerful and most beloved man in the galaxy! I know what I'll do; I'll set the security mechs to blow everything up, kill the only test subject and turn the mechs on before I've actually escaped the station. Genius!"

It was never explained why either of them did what they did, it's been theorized that they were being payed by the Collectors for Shepard's body (they wanted him dead or alive).
Otherwise why would they sabotage their well-running operations?

Modifié par cooldonkeyfish, 08 octobre 2013 - 09:49 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Actually this character had the worst plan:

[Mangalores]

TIM. I still have no clue what he wanted to actually do, he mainly ****s everything up for everyone. Also bringing back a dead person because she is supposedly "special" kind of indicates a certain degree of lunacy right there.

[Forst1999]

Almost all side-villains had terrible plans.
I think I go with TIM, as his plans not only failed but actually made things worse for his beloved humanity.

[AlexMBrennan]

It was never explained why either of them did what they did

It's pretty clear that Kuril is in the business of trading people to interested parties (e.g. selling Jack to Cerberus), so it's not a massive leap for him to consider trying to capture a prize like Shepard.

[General TSAR]

Fist and Hackett.

Illusive Brah was successful up until he drilled Reaper tech into his skull.

[Br3admax]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Wow, there are so many candidates. Pretty much every single villain in the whole series had a terrible plan.

[KaiserShep]

That asari merchant who tried to get Conrad to secure the deed for the bar on Illium.

[The Night Mammoth]

I don't think I'm exaggerating either. I can't think of a single villain in the trilogy who had a logical, well executed plan. I can't even think of one that had a decent motive either. Tela Vasir, maybe? Teaming up with the Shadow Broker, doing unsavoury things because the information she was fed was so valuable in defence of Council Space. I guess that's good motive. Her plan was terrible though.